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Donald Trump tried to make a strategic partnership with Ukraine... that would include a major investment by the United States in Ukraine, and in the Rare earth metals and other mineral products that Ukraine has & America needs... AND, that by doing that, America would have a vested interest in PROTECTING their Investment in Ukraine... AND, that it could be accomplished WITHOUT America poking Putin in the nose... BUT, Zelensky evidently did NOT understand the opportunity... OR THOUGHT he has trump JUST where he wanted him... AND SO... Zelensky goes home with nothing... Trump is furious, Russia and China are happy, and Ukraine risks America just walking away from the entire deal.

Someone needs to explain to Zelensky, that Trump needs to be a fair arbiter of ANY deal with Putin... and can NOT play overt favorites... ALTHOUGH Europe can and SHOULD... Trump needs to walk a fine line, and try to bring peace, because the U.S.A. CONTINUING to spend Hundreds of billions of $$$ supporting an endless war... is wearing thin...  AND, that a peace where Europe takes the lead of being MORE the muscle and peace keeper in Ukraine, and America being more neutral partner with a vested interest in Ukraine AND PEACE... MAY WELL be the path toward a LASTING PEACE in EUROPE...

But, what Zelenski did yesterday was VERY naive, NOT well thought out, and to put it bluntly... STUPID !  IF he REALLY wants to save Ukraine... He would do well NOT trying to embarrass Trump, ADMIT he screwed up, and GO GROVELING back to Trump... because Trump already TOLD him what Ukraine's future is if he doesn't...  and SALVAGE the best HOPE for an independent Ukraine!!
 

ConservativeWave » 01 Mar 2025, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 9:35 am

Donald Trump tried to make a strategic partnership with Ukraine... that would include a major investment by the United States in Ukraine, and in the Rare earth metals and other mineral products that Ukraine has & America needs... AND, that by doing that, America would have a vested interest in PROTECTING their Investment Ukraine... AND, that it could be accomplished WITHOUT America poking Putin in the nose... SO... Zelenski goes home with nothing... Trump is furious, Russia and china are happy, and Ukraine risks America just walknig away from the entire deal.

Someone needs to explain to Zelenski, that Trump needs to be a fair arbiter of ANY deal with Putin... and can NOT play overt favorites... ALTHOUGH Europe can and SHOULD... Trump needs to walk a fine line, and try to bring peace, because the U.S.A. CONTINUING to spend Hundreds of billions of $$$ supporting an endless war... is wearing thin...  AND, that a peace where Europe takes the lead of being MORE the muscle and peace keeper in Ukrine, and America being more neutral partmer with a vested interest in peace,,, MAY WELL be the path toward a lasting peace...

But, what Zelenski did yesterday was Naive, NOT well thought out, and STUPID !  IF he REALLY wants to save Ukraine... He would do well NOT trying to embarrass Trump, ADMIT he screwed up, and GO GROVELING back to Trump... because Trump already TOLD him what Ukraine's future is if he doesn't...  and it's NOT GOOD !!

I'm disinclined to believe that "nuanced" is a term useful to describe anything falling from the painted face of this clown..


Donald Trump Is an Unhinged, Lying, Fifth-Grade, Goddamn Dumbbell—And That’s Just What His Friends Say

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/ ... iends-say/

 
 

Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:24 am

I'm disinclined to believe that "nuanced" is a term useful to describe anything falling from the painted face of this clown..

Donald Trump Is an Unhinged, Lying, Fifth-Grade, Goddamn Dumbbell—And That’s Just What His Friends Say

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/ ... iends-say/

Hey TDS Dickhead with recurrent pink eye....


When you're not looking Trump wipes his *** with your pillow case....and laughs and laughs

Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:24 am

I'm disinclined to believe that "nuanced" is a term useful to describe anything falling from the painted face of this clown..

Donald Trump Is an Unhinged, Lying, Fifth-Grade, Goddamn Dumbbell—And That’s Just What His Friends Say

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/ ... iends-say/

Maybe TRUMP says NO DEAL when the little bitch Zelensky comes crawling back. TRUMP could make a deal with Putin on the minerals once Putin takes Ukraine.   
 

MR-7 » 01 Mar 2025, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:42 am

Maybe TRUMP says NO DEAL when the little bitch Zelensky comes crawling back. TRUMP could make a deal with Putin on the minerals once Putin takes Ukraine. 

Who would place the fate of their nation in the hands of a moron like Grifty?

Oh....wait....


This is awkward....
 

Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 10:44 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:44 am

Who would place the fate of their nation in the hands of a moron like Grifty?

Oh....wait....

This is awkward....

Zelensky is a **** nazi

Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:24 am

I'm disinclined to believe that "nuanced" is a term useful to describe anything falling from the painted face of this clown..

Donald Trump Is an Unhinged, Lying, Fifth-Grade, Goddamn Dumbbell—And That’s Just What His Friends Say

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/ ... iends-say/

Well, YOU are a MORON... so that would be EXPECTED !!

MR-7 » 01 Mar 2025, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:42 am

Maybe TRUMP says NO DEAL when the little bitch Zelensky comes crawling back. TRUMP could make a deal with Putin on the minerals once Putin takes Ukraine. 

That wouldn't be smart... I think Zelensky will come crawling back, KNOWING he made a mistake and overplayed his hand, and the deal will be with Ukraine...

Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 10:44 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:44 am

Who would place the fate of their nation in the hands of a moron like Grifty?

Oh....wait....

This is awkward....

OH PULEEZZEE...

Democrats put the fate of America in the hands of CORRUPT, BRAIN DEAD, LIAR... like Joe Biden for FOUR YEARS.. and NOW have problem with a REAL, and demonstrated LEADER like Donald Trump?

OH YEA... This IS Awkward... FOR YOU !!
 

ConservativeWave » 01 Mar 2025, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 9:35 am

Donald Trump tried to make a strategic partnership with Ukraine... that would include a major investment by the United States in Ukraine, and in the Rare earth metals and other mineral products that Ukraine has & America needs... AND, that by doing that, America would have a vested interest in PROTECTING their Investment in Ukraine... AND, that it could be accomplished WITHOUT America poking Putin in the nose... BUT, Zelensky evidently did NOT understand the opportunity... OR THOUGHT he has trump JUST where he wanted him... AND SO... Zelensky goes home with nothing... Trump is furious, Russia and China are happy, and Ukraine risks America just walking away from the entire deal.

Someone needs to explain to Zelensky, that Trump needs to be a fair arbiter of ANY deal with Putin... and can NOT play overt favorites... ALTHOUGH Europe can and SHOULD... Trump needs to walk a fine line, and try to bring peace, because the U.S.A. CONTINUING to spend Hundreds of billions of $$$ supporting an endless war... is wearing thin...  AND, that a peace where Europe takes the lead of being MORE the muscle and peace keeper in Ukraine, and America being more neutral partner with a vested interest in Ukraine AND PEACE... MAY WELL be the path toward a LASTING PEACE in EUROPE...

But, what Zelenski did yesterday was VERY naive, NOT well thought out, and to put it bluntly... STUPID !  IF he REALLY wants to save Ukraine... He would do well NOT trying to embarrass Trump, ADMIT he screwed up, and GO GROVELING back to Trump... because Trump already TOLD him what Ukraine's future is if he doesn't...  and SALVAGE the best HOPE for an independent Ukraine!!

Good assessment of what happened yesterday.  I agree with what you've said.
 

ConservativeWave » 01 Mar 2025, 10:59 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:59 am

OH PULEEZZEE...

Democrats put the fate of America in the hands of CORRUPT, BRAIN DEAD, LIAR... like Joe Biden for FOUR YEARS.. and NOW have problem with a REAL, and demonstrated LEADER like Donald Trump?

OH YEA... This IS Awkward... FOR YOU !!

To those who actually spent time in his immediate vicinity, Grifty demonstrated the understanding of a 5th grader.

Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:24 am

I'm disinclined to believe that "nuanced" is a term useful to describe anything falling from the painted face of this clown..

Donald Trump Is an Unhinged, Lying, Fifth-Grade, Goddamn Dumbbell—And That’s Just What His Friends Say

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/ ... iends-say/

Zelensky was a lil bitch just like you.  He thought he could control the discussion and got bitch slapped and humiliated just like we do to to you.

*Huey » 01 Mar 2025, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 12:00 pm

Zelensky was a lil bitch just like you.  He thought he could control the discussion and got bitch slapped and humiliated just like we do to to you.

Grifty is a moron...

Which is why you wear his facial with pride...
 

nefarious101 » 01 Mar 2025, 10:28 am » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 10:28 am

Hey TDS Dickhead with recurrent pink eye....

When you're not looking Trump wipes his *** with your pillow case....and laughs and laughs

hero worship.

Dirt bag couldn't even put on a suit? WTF. Your biggest meeting of your life, you **** idiot. Not a dime for you.

Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 12:27 pm

Grifty is a moron...

Which is why you wear his facial with pride...

Dude, Zelensky got bitch slapped just like you do on a daily basis.  He went into that meeting thinking Trump would roll over like Biden and the Euro did.  Like they said, if the Euros are doing so much more WTF does Zelensky need us for?

 

Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 12:27 pm

Grifty is a moron...

Which is why you wear his facial with pride...

Hey stupid!
That "moron" just saved us the $200 billion that your idiot Biden wasted in a losing cause that Zelensky could never have won!
And at the same time, he completely eliminated hostilities with Russia, who would also like to see the war ending, and THAT lowers the risk of accidentally bringing about WW III.
You don't like that position?  FINE!  
What's stopping you from donating YOUR OWN money directly to Ukraine if you want to continue supporting him so badly?
 

*Huey » 01 Mar 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 12:35 pm

Dude, Zelensky got bitch slapped just like you do on a daily basis.  He went into that meeting thinking Trump would roll over like Biden and the Euro did.  Like they said, if the Euros are doing so much more WTF does Zelensky need us for?

Tiny,

Your bitterness doesn't flavor MY reality...
 

Zeets2 » 01 Mar 2025, 12:53 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 12:53 pm

Hey stupid!
That "moron" just saved us the $200 billion that your idiot Biden wasted in a losing cause that Zelensky could never have won!
And at the same time, he completely eliminated hostilities with Russia, who would also like to see the war ending, and THAT lowers the risk of accidentally bringing about WW III.
You don't like that position?  FINE!  
What's stopping you from donating YOUR OWN money directly to Ukraine if you want to continue supporting him so badly?

Not enough life left to waste on **** like yours.

Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2025, 1:01 pm

Tiny,

Your bitterness doesn't flavor MY reality...

Dishonest Prick, there is nothing about you or your life that will make me bitter.  You are nothing but a source of entertainment for me.  Something to laugh at.

Are you done discussing Zelensky?