Zelensky SCREWED UP !! Trump is doing everything he can to HELP Ukraine... but Zelenski doesnt understand the nuances !

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ConservativeWave » 02 Mar 2025, 6:37 am » wrote: I am SO TIRED of UNPROVEN, UNACCOMPLISHED, INCAPABLE, and BRAIN DEAD IDIOTS (like YOU)... proclaiming themselves to be the intellectuals... and accusing those who ARE accomplished, intelligent, and proven... to be the "morons"...  YOU have NOTHING that I want to listen to... I just want ALL of YOU, and those LIKE YOU to be OUT of government, OUT of power... and relegated to the LUNATIC asylums where you belong !!

EOM !!
What do you believe you know about Grifty that his chief of staff doesn't?
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Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 9:38 pm » wrote: .White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly frequently lost his temper and told colleagues that he thought the president was “unhinged,” Woodward writes. In one small group meeting, Kelly said of Trump: “He’s an idiot. It’s pointless to try to convince him of anything. He’s gone off the rails. We’re in Crazytown. I don’t even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I’ve ever had.”

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/ ... iends-say/
If true... then WHY, and HOW... is the man ALWAYS RIGHT !!

The man has been successful at WHATEVER he's touched... i.e. Real Estate, Hollywood, Authorship, Social Media, and Poetics.... and made BILLIONS of $$$ in the process... I have a hard time listening to what is PROBABLY an incompetent, and jealous, underling, casting stones... because his "input" was probably rejected, and now has his NOSE out of joint !


OH, and Mother Jones???  PULEEEZZZZE !
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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ConservativeWave » 02 Mar 2025, 6:48 am » wrote: If true... then WHY, and HOW... is the man ALWAYS RIGHT !!

The man has been successful at WHATEVER he's touched... i.e. Real Estate, Hollywood, Authorship, Social Media, and Poetics.... and made BILLIONS of $$$ in the process... I have a hard time listening to what is PROBABLY an incompetent, and jealous, underling, casting stones... because his "input" was probably rejected, and now has his NOSE out of joint !


OH, and Mother Jones???  PULEEEZZZZE !
2XWorse than Buchanan 


 
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jerrab » 01 Mar 2025, 2:50 pm » wrote: you are just rolling over for trump like the lap dog you are.
MY GOD... Obama, Hillary, and Joe Biden... collectively the most STUPID, INCOMPETENT, and CORRUPT trifecta of democrat Leaders America has probably ever seen... who collectively have LEAD America into DEBT, DEBAUCHERY, and DECLINE...

NOW, YOU have a problem with Donald Trump... who in the FACE of a CORRUPT, INCOMPETENT and WEAPONIZED Government and Democrat party... STOOD UP to them... FACED their HATE, SUBVERSION, and INSTITUTIONALIZED CORRUPTION... FACED it NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, but THREE TIMES...  INCLUDING POLITICAL ATTACKS, LEGAL ATTACKS, IMPEACHMENT ATTACKS, and TWO ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS...  AND WON ???


I follow a LEADER... YOU follow the INCOMPETENT,  CORRUPT and LYING CABAL !!
 
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 2:00 pm » wrote: What's to discuss?

Zelensky is a former comedian, Grifty is a clown..
AND, the ENTIRE CORRUPT, DEI, WOKE, and Weaponized Democrat Party CABAL... IS HISTORY !!

As Trumps CORRUPTED "approval ratings" CONTINUE to go higher... well over 50% now... even as he WON the 2024 election (in a landslide), when they were only around 45% !!

YEP.. NOTHING more to discuss !!

 
 
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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ConservativeWave » 02 Mar 2025, 7:10 am » wrote: AND, the ENTIRE CORRUPT, DEI, WOKE, and Weaponized Democrat Party CABAL... IS HISTORY !!

As Trumps CORRUPTED "approval ratings" CONTINUE to go higher... well over 50% now... even as he WON the 2024 election (in a landslide), when they were only around 45% !!

YEP.. NOTHING more to discuss !!
even as he WON the 2024 election (in a landslide)
post the popular vote total.
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Blackvegetable » 02 Mar 2025, 8:02 am » wrote: post the popular vote total.
Why??? Trump is your President shilly.
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Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 7:13 pm » wrote: most likely where

Every night all the men will come around
And lay their money down....


Am I warm?

I have no **** clue what you are rambling about, DP.  For once act like a **** man and post this conversation.  Got it, DP?
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*Huey » 02 Mar 2025, 10:59 am » wrote: I have no **** clue what you are rambling about, DP.  For once act like a **** man and post this conversation.  Got it, DP?
 
You know where to find me.
 most likely where 

Every night all the men will come around

And lay their money down.... 

Am I warm?

What is it you don't get?
 
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Blackvegetable » 02 Mar 2025, 11:08 am » wrote:
 most likely where 

Every night all the men will come around

And lay their money down.... 

Am I warm?

What is it you don't get?

I have no fuc,king clue what you are talking about.  Man up and post this conversation I was part of where Ghetto  allegedly outed me. 

Why you acting like a ******….oh, wait, my bad.
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ConservativeWave » 02 Mar 2025, 7:01 am » wrote: MY GOD... Obama, Hillary, and Joe Biden... collectively the most STUPID, INCOMPETENT, and CORRUPT trifecta of democrat Leaders America has probably ever seen... who collectively have LEAD America into DEBT, DEBAUCHERY, and DECLINE...

NOW, YOU have a problem with Donald Trump... who in the FACE of a CORRUPT, INCOMPETENT and WEAPONIZED Government and Democrat party... STOOD UP to them... FACED their HATE, SUBVERSION, and INSTITUTIONALIZED CORRUPTION... FACED it NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, but THREE TIMES...  INCLUDING POLITICAL ATTACKS, LEGAL ATTACKS, IMPEACHMENT ATTACKS, and TWO ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS...  AND WON ???


I follow a LEADER... YOU follow the INCOMPETENT,  CORRUPT and LYING CABAL !!

there was no guarantee the russia would not invade again. if anyone else but trump had a phony peace agreement you would not approve. this just goes to show blind support for anything trump does. trump had a perfect opportunity to have peace in europe but he blew it. zelinski would have signed if there was a guarantee russia would not invade again. so say biden this and biden that, who I don't like anyway,  but the fact remains is that trump does not want peace in ukraine and only stupid people would think he does.
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Blackvegetable » 02 Mar 2025, 6:41 am » wrote: What do you believe you know about Grifty that his chief of staff doesn't?
One of Donald Trumps worst mistakes as a politician, was that he TRUSTED the "DEEP State", RINO's, and the Military establishment BUREAUCRATS to serve in his cabinet & inner circle, during his first administration.  There were a dozen or MORE of them that only used the opportunity, to STAB Trump in the back... AND MANY were fired because of it when Trump realized that they were ONLY pushing their OWN agendas.  NOW, they're still pissed... SO, when it comes to what THOSE RINO SOB's say about Trump... It's NO DIFFERENT than listening to Radical Liberal Democrats... and you just take what they say, and FLUSH it down the toilet ! 

It's ALL pretty much the same thing... !!

 
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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Democrats KEEP TRYING to minimize the President Donald Trump HAS BEEN, and IS TODAY... by pushing the BS that we have been hearing to 8 years...

The only problem... is that MORE, and MORE people are LEAVING the Liberal Democrat SINKING SHIP, and are coming over to the REPUBLICAN... MAKE America GREAT Again... ROCKET SHIP !!

YOU Libs REALLY should LEARN something... and that is... The Democrat party is on life support and DYING a PATHETIC DEATH... as Democrats LOSE more and more of their DEEP STATE corrupt CASH COW sources of unlimited MONEY... and Donald Trump gets more and MORE popular... and as he RACKS UP more and more successes... and exposes more and more Democrat Waste, Abuse and CORRUPTION?... all Democrat can do is SQUEAL !


IT IS NOT looking good  for Democrats !!
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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Russia has won
WASH DC has lost.

Trump is just the surrender puppet.
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jerrab » 02 Mar 2025, 11:55 am » wrote: there was no guarantee the russia would not invade again. if anyone else but trump had a phony peace agreement you would not approve. this just goes to show blind support for anything trump does. trump had a perfect opportunity to have peace in europe but he blew it. zelinski would have signed if there was a guarantee russia would not invade again. so say biden this and biden that, who I don't like anyway,  but the fact remains is that trump does not want peace in ukraine and only stupid people would think he does.
I think TRUMP DOES want peace... because he has SAID over and over that there wouldn't have been war in the FIRST place if he were President over the last 4 years, and is pretty much committed to ending the war... So, I think he WANTS peace... IF for no other reason, than it's what he SAID he was going to do... BUT, IF you're going to have peace NOW... You HAVE to throw Russia a bone.  Telling them they have to get OUT of all of what they currently control in Ukraine, and Crimea?  Just ISN'T going to work... Trump is probably right... THEY'RE just NOT going to get out under Zelesnky's terms, so, saying that Trump "blew it" is just completely wrong... and they (Russia) will just stay there, BLEEDING THEMSELVES, and Ukraine, and Europe, and America dry... Until: 1)  AN acceptable peace deal is found, 2) Ukraine, Europe and America capitulate, OR 3) WW3 and/or Nuclear war BREAKS OUT !!...

I think Trumps calculation is that neither option 2 or 3 is acceptable... so option #1 needs to be made to work, and THAT is what he's trying to do.  YOU can like it or not, UNDER the CURRENT circumstances, giving up some land, entering a business deal with the USA for rare earth elements (that is EXTREMELY important to America), and having Europe step up to get stronger militarily... while exposing a little space between the U.S.A, & Europe & NATO... might be the exact "witches brew" to make this work.... UNLESS you want perpetual war, OR, WW3 !


AND THINK about it... with options 2 or 3... China becomes the BIG winner, and everyone else loses !!
 
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 10:44 am » wrote: Who would place the fate of their nation in the hands of a moron like Grifty?

Oh....wait....

This is awkward....
Dash, plugs n jugs, sleepy joe didn’t get the war stopped in three years were you crying then?
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BuckNaked » 03 Mar 2025, 8:02 am » wrote: Dash, plugs n jugs, sleepy joe didn’t get the war stopped in three years were you crying then?
Biden wasn't one of the parties to the conflict.

Grifty was directly involved in Afghanistan.

He couldn't get out in 4 years, then bequeathed a disaster of a treaty.
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Blackvegetable » 03 Mar 2025, 8:36 am » wrote: Biden wasn't one of the parties to the conflict.

Grifty was directly involved in Afghanistan.

He couldn't get out in 4 years, then bequeathed a disaster of a treaty.

are we talking bout Ukraine or Afghanistan?
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BuckNaked » 03 Mar 2025, 8:38 am » wrote: are we talking bout Ukraine or Afghanistan?
Is there an "off" button on your Stupid?
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ConservativeWave » 03 Mar 2025, 7:33 am » wrote: I think TRUMP DOES want peace... because he has SAID over and over that there wouldn't have been war in the FIRST place if he were President over the last 4 years, and is pretty much committed to ending the war... So, I think he WANTS peace... IF for no other reason, than it's what he SAID he was going to do... BUT, IF you're going to have peace NOW... You HAVE to throw Russia a bone.  Telling them they have to get OUT of all of what they currently control in Ukraine, and Crimea?  Just ISN'T going to work... Trump is probably right... THEY'RE just NOT going to get out under Zelesnky's terms, so, saying that Trump "blew it" is just completely wrong... and they (Russia) will just stay there, BLEEDING THEMSELVES, and Ukraine, and Europe, and America dry... Until: 1)  AN acceptable peace deal is found, 2) Ukraine, Europe and America capitulate, OR 3) WW3 and/or Nuclear war BREAKS OUT !!...

I think Trumps calculation is that neither option 2 or 3 is acceptable... so option #1 needs to be made to work, and THAT is what he's trying to do.  YOU can like it or not, UNDER the CURRENT circumstances, giving up some land, entering a business deal with the USA for rare earth elements (that is EXTREMELY important to America), and having Europe step up to get stronger militarily... while exposing a little space between the U.S.A, & Europe & NATO... might be the exact "witches brew" to make this work.... UNLESS you want perpetual war, OR, WW3 !


AND THINK about it... with options 2 or 3... China becomes the BIG winner, and everyone else loses !!
a treaty is a signed promise that neither will attack again. this was not the situation.

a treaty should include for russia's part  ukraine promises not to join nato and keeps crimera and maybe some other areas. for ukraine's part no more invasion from russia.
 
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