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I say they $old us out but until 2011 kept just the "Engine Plant " going.

https://youtu.be/ktrAw5_o0OQ?feature=shared

This is when the Engine Plant finally shutdown under Chrysler.

https://youtu.be/NW2qXrKpLHY?feature=shared

Despite the "Heart-Break" Lost Jobs..

Too this day in my Area half the vehicles on the Road are Dodge Ram Pickups or Jeeps.

The plants been torn down decades ago.

But we still remember "American Motors" & Chrysler even under "Chrysler" kept the plants going awhile

Working at American Motors back in "The Day".

My own Uncle Marty was "Working" On The Line in this promotional video 1982/1983..

https://youtu.be/NKy1eLK0RaQ?feature=shared
 

Ya know back in the day wasnt no crack ghettos , police shootings , or riots in Kenosha.

People all races and cultures came to Kenosha get a good job at the "Motors" $ave Up buy a house start a family.

Now the Crack Ghetto moved in after the Big Plants shutdown forever.

Today its gangs shooting & Drug Overdoses.

But if I say that too "Loud" Im a "Racist"
 

25 years to the day they shot "JFK" they stopped making cars in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

But the Engine Plant across town survived afew more decades.

The Lakefront Plant was "Leveled" 1991/1992 built a park and condos over it..

Also Kenosha used to be a Gr8 Lakes "Port Of Call" could accomodate big lake freighters.

After American Motors completely "Folded" was no need for a Shipping Port anymore.

Still a "Coast Guard Station though 2 this day ya still see there boats out there a staionhouse too actually these days the Coast Guard more pulls stupid kids outta the water 

https://youtu.be/4QEy6hRROF0?feature=shared
 
 

Let me ask ya this Kenosha 1980s early 1990s them guys Lost their Jobs but they mostly moved on.

Or Kenosha 2020..

August 2020 infront of Courthouse..

Fires Riots and just dumb ""Ignorant" kinda people we got "Today" and I really hate 2 say this when this happens "National Guard" & bullets thru Eyeballs & "Restore" The Order "Period"

https://youtu.be/g16-dx6IucQ?feature=shared
 
 

Ya think thats "Cruel" even in like State Prison System they get the hint of a gang fight or a riot they shoot tear gas then come with billy club beat downs and lock everything down for week maybe a month.

Thats called "Restoring The Order"

In the State Department Of Corrections this is acually a good "Career" Opportunity "State Retirement & Benefits too".

But remember "Offenders" ya dealing with Wild Animals these are "Convicted" by a Court & "Sentanced" a Term "DOC"

https://youtu.be/wfNxxTH6u2M?feature=shared

TwoIfByTea » 01 Apr 2025, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2025, 5:52 pm

I say they $old us out but until 2011 kept just the "Engine Plant " going.

https://youtu.be/ktrAw5_o0OQ?feature=shared

When American Motors had Renault buy 46% of it in the 80's, the goal was to increase AMC market share to 3%.
Think of how small that is. They wanted to aggressively increase car sales to 3%.
Jeep was the real plum in all the times that car company was sold/bought/merged... whatever.
American, French, German, Italian, American (again), etc...
Small or large, it takes big plants and lots of money to design, produce and sell cars.

TwoIfByTea » 01 Apr 2025, 11:14 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2025, 11:14 pm

In the State Department Of Corrections this is acually a good "Career" Opportunity "State Retirement & Benefits too".

But remember "Offenders" ya dealing with Wild Animals these are "Convicted" by a Court & "Sentanced" a Term "DOC"

https://youtu.be/wfNxxTH6u2M?feature=shared

Today the Facilites alotta more newer & secure.

Aint like back in the 1980s/1990s walking the rec yard and softball teams.

Alotta them old prisons shutdown and much newer built very higher security too everything today on camera and "Procedural" too

DeezerShoove » 01 Apr 2025, 11:15 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2025, 11:15 pm

When American Motors had Renault buy 46% of it in the 80's, the goal was to increase AMC market share to 3%.
Think of how small that is. They wanted to aggressively increase car sales to 3%.
Jeep was the real plum in all the times that car company was sold/bought/merged... whatever.
American, French, German, Italian, American (again), etc...
Small or large, it takes big plants and lots of money to design, produce and sell cars.

Renault the "French" only interest was use our "Network" Dealerships plus owning a half stake in America Motors.

Renault made one very good car that even Chrysler kept making afew model years after "complete" Takeover..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_9_and_11Assembly

• France: Douai
• Spain: Valladolid
• Taiwan: Taichung (Sanfu Motors)
• United States: Kenosha (AMC

I should say though in the Final Aqquisition 1988 Chrysler had Stockpiles of AMC parts .

Up until the early 1990s might have had a Chrysler Badge but AMC parts like a GM Square key and Ignition switch yes AMC bought those from General Motors put them on their cars

TwoIfByTea » 01 Apr 2025, 11:37 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2025, 11:37 pm

Renault the "French" only interest was use our "Network" Dealerships plus owning a half stake in America Motors.

Renault made one very good car that even Chrysler kept making afew model years after "complete" Takeover..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_9_and_11Assembly

• France: Douai
• Spain: Valladolid
• Taiwan: Taichung (Sanfu Motors)
• United States: Kenosha (AMC

We called it the AMC Appliance.
There was 200 pounds of steel added to the Americanized version of the Renault 9.
It otherwise could not pass seat belt pull tests, roof crush tests, impact, etc. per FMVSS.

Sure, the dealership network was desirable. Why wouldn't it be?
But they didn't just ship cars over to sell here, did they?

DeezerShoove » 01 Apr 2025, 11:46 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2025, 11:46 pm

We called it the AMC Appliance.
There was 200 pounds of steel added to the Americanized version of the Renault 9.
It otherwise could not pass seat belt pull tests, roof crush tests, impact, etc. per FMVSS.

Sure, the dealership network was desirable. Why wouldn't it be?
But they didn't just ship cars over to sell here, did they?

For a time very early 1980s Renault was made in Kenosha for "American" Market  before Chrysler came in wanted our big plants the "K-Cars" platform brought them outta "Bankruptcy" paid off the Federal Loans .

They sold so well Lee Iaccoca saw American Motors "Stuggling" and Spare Capacity keep up with sales.

From 1985/1986 on Kenosha manufactured Chrysler Products under "Contract".

By 1988 Chrysler fully bought out "AMC"
 

The "AMC" Homecoming Andys Drive In 30th ave & Roosevelt Rd.

https://youtu.be/8Ay_GZSKKGY?feature=shared

We need a meme of a wedge of Wisconsin Sharp up Musk's butt this morning.

Kenosha could be great again. The trade agreements that got us where we are is a bipartisan effort.

I am just not a fan of the wrecking ball approach that Musk/Trump is taking.

Musk's days in an arena of power are numbered.  Tesla is gonna die. Perhaps his robots will save him and his investors.
 
 

DeezerShoove » 01 Apr 2025, 11:15 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2025, 11:15 pm

When American Motors had Renault buy 46% of it in the 80's, the goal was to increase AMC market share to 3%.
Think of how small that is. They wanted to aggressively increase car sales to 3%.
Jeep was the real plum in all the times that car company was sold/bought/merged... whatever.
American, French, German, Italian, American (again), etc...
Small or large, it takes big plants and lots of money to design, produce and sell cars.

It's an uphill battle when the only thing of worth you produce is the jeep and the javelin...even some of those were questionable...no wonder they went the way of the Rambler...  
 
 
 

TwoIfByTea » 01 Apr 2025, 11:37 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2025, 11:37 pm

Renault the "French" only interest was use our "Network" Dealerships plus owning a half stake in America Motors.

Renault made one very good car that even Chrysler kept making afew model years after "complete" Takeover..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_9_and_11Assembly

• France: Douai
• Spain: Valladolid
• Taiwan: Taichung (Sanfu Motors)
• United States: Kenosha (AMC

I should say though in the Final Aqquisition 1988 Chrysler had Stockpiles of AMC parts .

Up until the early 1990s might have had a Chrysler Badge but AMC parts like a GM Square key and Ignition switch yes AMC bought those from General Motors put them on their cars

they seemed to buy what was available as they ran Buick engines in their CJs for decades...

JohnnyYou » 02 Apr 2025, 3:53 am » wrote: ↑

02 Apr 2025, 3:53 am

We need a meme of a wedge of Wisconsin Sharp up Musk's butt this morning.

Kenosha could be great again. The trade agreements that got us where we are is a bipartisan effort.

I am just not a fan of the wrecking ball approach that Musk/Trump is taking.

Musk's days in an arena of power are numbered.  Tesla is gonna die. Perhaps his robots will save him and his investors.

looks like you've got a wish in one hand and a fresh steaming turd in the other...which do you think is real?