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murdock » 05 Apr 2025, 6:20 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2025, 6:20 pm

Lying traitor *** bastard!

Do ya ever contibute anything of "value" 2 a thread.

Example.

viewtopic.php?p=2726382#p2726382
 
 

Fuelman » 05 Apr 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2025, 12:35 pm

Nice, hope you get a flurry of wins.
The process is much more complicated than the beginners know.

I think the aim is "short-term" pain hopefully for much longer term gains.

Again though this is going 2 be a major "Disruption" the current way we been doing buisness

*Beekeeper » 03 Apr 2025, 6:31 am » wrote: ↑

03 Apr 2025, 6:31 am

The STUPIDITY of "investors" on how these tariffs will actually benefit American companies is astounding.

Once they realize that American factories will soon be producing goods that used to be produced in slave labor nations, the buying will begin. Because you can rest assured that much if not all of our former manufacturing self WILL be restored. Things like textiles, components for ALL things being assembled here like appliances, automobiles, and other "hard goods". That level of competition will also bring down prices and tell China, Indonesia, and other pacific rim nations to "go **** yourself". It ALSO makes the US of A much more secure in not relying on someone else to get things we need here when needed. Like computer chips, electronics, etc.

Add to this, the AMERICAN WORKERS understand that this not just preserves their jobs from be shipped overseas, but WILL open doors for more top paying jobs in pretty much ALL sectors of society.

The competition won't bring down prices. Being made in America by well-paid workers will raise prices. But if it raises wages, too, then who cares? 

Americans have become spoiled by access to cheap doo dads. There are many countries where a hair brush or a pair of scissors is something to be prized, to be maintained and taken care of; because if they are imported you can bet your *** they are tariffed. 

What maroons do not comprehend is that in the early days of this country, the federal government was funded only my "excise and impost" taxes. Excise is taxes on manufactured goods, and impost is basically tariffs. The notion behind this - explicated brilliantly by James Madison in one of his contributions to the Federalist Papers - was that (in that day) anyone who could afford manufactured or imported items must be doing pretty well and was therefore best situated to support the federal government.

Blackvegetable » 05 Apr 2025, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2025, 2:16 pm

How do you believe he will do so?

(I confess, this makes me feel a bit dirty.)

One of the reasons the debt is growing so fast these days... is that at current interest rates, JUST the Interest is over a TRILLION $$$ a year ... Interest rates today are HIGH compared to just a few years ago... and IF interest rates go back to much lower levels, AT LEAST the interest on the debt will be lower... I would think Trump is figuring to USE the low interest (if we get them) to refinance the debt...

It would be a GREAT idea... so that we're not just paying a TRILLION $$$ EVERY YEAR... JUST to cover the interest... MUCH LESS start paying the debt down !!

SUCH is the FIASCO that Joe Biden left us !!

Blackvegetable » 04 Apr 2025, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Apr 2025, 3:39 pm

Down 11% in 2 days.

Kill yourself.

KILL myself?   I've been EXPECTING THIS !! 

I've been sitting in cash, and waiting to put some money to work... WHICH happened on Thursday & Friday !

I'm expecting a BOUNCE this week !!

ConservativeWave » 05 Apr 2025, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2025, 9:45 pm

KILL myself?   I've been EXPECTING THIS !! 

I've been sitting in cash, and waiting to put some money to work... WHICH happened on Thursday & Friday !

I'm expecting a BOUNCE this week !!

Good Luck the last afew years I cant afford to gamble anymore the prices have just skyrocketed too.

Hopefully things come back down some gosh just the home and auto insurance has litterally doubled last 5 years, property tax, utilities & just everything else too.

Man Im gonna have go back out over the road again for awhile pretty soon save up some more cash in the bank.

Also thought of Selling my house while prices are up and perhaps moving into a 55plus apartment but the waiting list is long and I dont know if Im poor enough yet to qualify but ya basically pay 30 percent of your income and they built really nice looking places brand new the last ten years and they cut the grass shovel the snow for ya too.

Then again nice having your own house I live end of block mostly quiet except afew idiot neighbors who got racing mufflers and blast boom rap music but when I was younger I liked loud cars too and blasted my Heavy Metal music so 



 
 

ConservativeWave » 05 Apr 2025, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2025, 9:45 pm

KILL myself?   I've been EXPECTING THIS !! 

I've been sitting in cash, and waiting to put some money to work... WHICH happened on Thursday & Friday !

I'm expecting a BOUNCE this week !!

Post the thread title..

I've been sitting in cash, 

why were you "in cash"?

Blackvegetable » 06 Apr 2025, 5:44 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 5:44 am

Post the thread title..  Post a thread ??

why were you "in cash"?   The stock market (all the markets) were at all time highs... i.e. 1) OVER 200+ % by the Buffet Indicator, 2) Markets were priced for PERFECTION, 3) Warren Buffet himself was selling MOST of what he owned... and had been for the last 2 years, and 4) NOTHING grows to the moon !! ...ANYTHING could have sparked this selloff...
 

Ref. Above in Blue...

ConservativeWave » 06 Apr 2025, 6:24 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 6:24 am

Ref. Above in Blue...

Post the thread title..

Post a thread ??

Did we cover the "moron" thing?

OVER 200+ % by the Buffet Indicator

Post the thread title...


Put on your galoshes.

Pick up the Soylent Green crosstown...


 

TwoIfByTea » 05 Apr 2025, 11:19 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2025, 11:19 pm

Good Luck the last afew years I cant afford to gamble anymore the prices have just skyrocketed too.

Hopefully things come back down some gosh just the home and auto insurance has litterally doubled last 5 years, property tax, utilities & just everything else too.

Man Im gonna have go back out over the road again for awhile pretty soon save up some more cash in the bank.

Also thought of Selling my house while prices are up and perhaps moving into a 55plus apartment but the waiting list is long and I dont know if Im poor enough yet to qualify but ya basically pay 30 percent of your income and they built really nice looking places brand new the last ten years and they cut the grass shovel the snow for ya too.

Then again nice having your own house I live end of block mostly quiet except afew idiot neighbors who got racing mufflers and blast boom rap music but when I was younger I liked loud cars too and blasted my Heavy Metal music so

COMPLETELY understand... Selling your house is a hard pill to swallow... I think that should be a LAST option.  Yes, they are overvalued some right now, but having a home is like a basic (bedrock) investment... essential for a persons "Quality of LIFE" (I believe)!   For other investments... the golden rules should be: 1)  "buy LOW, and sell HIGH... NOT the other way around",  2) Only invest what you can afford.. no margins, & no borrowed money, and 3)  Stay diversified...  Personally, I don't think this market is going to crash down to a 50-60-70% haircut... it just doesn't feel like it... BUT who knows... Democrats seem interested in doing everything they can to make things seem as bad as they can, and then try to blame it on Trump... BUT, I just think the WORLD will come to their senses, soon (because they will want to do what's best for them )... and it could all be over as quickly as it began... -30-40% does seem possible though... GOOD LUCK !!
 
 
 

ConservativeWave » 02 Apr 2025, 8:36 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Apr 2025, 8:36 pm

NOW.. that's not to say the market might still not decline... but TODAY, the day the markets COULD have shown America what they thought about "Tariffs"... after being driven down in the pre-Market with FAKE money... the stock market RALLIED over 800 points from the bottom !! ENOUGH SAID !!

AND THEN, Janet Yellen came out and ADMITTED... Tariffs probably WOULD NOT cause price increases ! ...AND WHY?   BECAUSE America companies will QUICKLY fill the void... and AMERICANS will quickly learn to BUY American, and there will BE NO price increases !

THAT is the TRUTH !!

I am glad I won't have to go barefoot.

Where is this mEARracle recovery on a Sunday?  Wall Street is closed Damn it.


 

Blackvegetable » 06 Apr 2025, 6:35 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 6:35 am

Post the thread title..

Did we cover the "moron" thing?

Post the thread title...

Put on your galoshes.

Pick up the Soylent Green crosstown...

What a phooking dumb azz red hat infested MAGA turd. Conservative Wave is going to wash himself out sea on the Trump Rip it Apart Current.
 But Of Course he has no evidence or receipt for his claim.
 

ConservativeWave » 05 Apr 2025, 6:19 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2025, 6:19 pm

I really don't think the rest of the world will be able to justify waiting very long... FOR a NUMBER of reasons... America is the biggest consumer market in the world, and ALL they will be doing if they DON'T make a deal FAST... Is:

1)  Encouraging more and more Americans entrepreneurs to start making all the "gadgets" that we have been buying from somewhere... PROBABLY making it cost effective by incorporating robotics and AI... it will be absorbed by Americans. 

2)  Donald Trump WANTS America to become more self sufficient, so, DON'T expect him to cave quickly, and

3)  Whats more... it ALREADY sounds like America is close to deals with a number of nations... India, Viet Nam, Mexico... & maybe others.  IF America just comes to a deal with Mexico, Canada, India, and Viet Nam... the DIKE will have been BREACHED... and it will be a world Wide game of musical chairs !!

SOME might say Donald Trump is too DUMB to come up with this stuff... BUT... ALL I have to do watch the "Trump on Oprah Winfrey" interview, from 35 years ago, and KNOW... THEY are ALL FULL of "CRAP"... because Donald Trump is DOING what he SAID he would do ALL those YEARS AGO!!

DROP the MIKE !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI

Most of us are just small fish in the markets but there are plenty of wealthier people sounding the alarm. People can turn on a dime when you start screwing with their money.

https://youtu.be/zZVBZWkRIws?si=Z_WCD_TS6wrWTWBb
 

Blackvegetable » 06 Apr 2025, 6:35 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 6:35 am

Post the thread title..

Did we cover the "moron" thing?

Post the thread title...

Put on your galoshes.

Pick up the Soylent Green crosstown...

??? ...WHAT the Fv#K are you talking about?   
 

Fuelman » 06 Apr 2025, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 7:46 am

Most of us are just small fish in the markets but there are plenty of wealthier people sounding the alarm. People can turn on a dime when you start screwing with their money.

https://youtu.be/zZVBZWkRIws?si=Z_WCD_TS6wrWTWBb

Yep... I'm hopeful that we will come OUT of this SOON, and better off than we were before... as a NATION, and as a PEOPLE !  Bottom line? ...We have a $37 Trillion debt, where we're spending MORE than $1 BILLION a year, JUST on Interest...  BANKRUPTCY is were we were going...

The Democrats are MORONS... It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to see that SOMETHING needed to change!  BUT THE Democrats plan... was to change NOTHING, except to RAISE taxes on Americans... and that was ONLY leading to something MUCH, MUCH worse... at least now, we have a great chance to come out of all of this MUCH better off... and ALL the Democrats want to do is to SUBVERT what Trump is trying to do, and GO BACK to where we were? 

I say "SCREW THAT" !!

...and God Bless America !!
 

JohnnyYou » 06 Apr 2025, 7:36 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 7:36 am

Conservative Wave is going to wash himself out sea on the Trump Rip it Apart Current.
 

You should start a garden. You know, "start garden".

Cannonpointer » 05 Apr 2025, 8:06 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2025, 8:06 pm

The competition won't bring down prices. Being made in America by well-paid workers will raise prices. But if it raises wages, too, then who cares? 

Americans have become spoiled by access to cheap doo dads. There are many countries where a hair brush or a pair of scissors is something to be prized, to be maintained and taken care of; because if they are imported you can bet your *** they are tariffed. 

What maroons do not comprehend is that in the early days of this country, the federal government was funded only my "excise and impost" taxes. Excise is taxes on manufactured goods, and impost is basically tariffs. The notion behind this - explicated brilliantly by James Madison in one of his contributions to the Federalist Papers - was that (in that day) anyone who could afford manufactured or imported items must be doing pretty well and was therefore best situated to support the federal government.

Beekeeper is a retarded vermin.

Why should the goal be to benefit American “companies?” They already benefitted from 40 yrs of outsourcing. 

(And his analysis is wrong anyway)

MR-7 » 06 Apr 2025, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 10:07 am

You should start a garden. You know, "start garden".

I went in the hardware store yesterday and the owner was in.

I said I need to start a garden in case the grocery stores closed down.   I did by a 4 pack of cherry tomatoes.

His Eye's got as big as IHOP Pancakes and he asked "THEY CLOSED THE GROCERY STORES DOWN?"

I miffed him when I am replied "I am just joking, but it's not every morning you wake up and 6 Trillion Dollars Evaporates.  All the red hats in the store moaned in agony.

I am fully anticipating I may be on the MAGA wagon ride list. But there are a shytload of em on the list.
 
 

JohnnyYou » 06 Apr 2025, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 10:46 am

I went in the hardware store yesterday and the owner was in.

I said I need to start a garden in case the grocery stores closed down.   I did by a 4 pack of cherry tomatoes.

His Eye's got as big as IHOP Pancakes and he asked "THEY CLOSED THE GROCERY STORES DOWN?"

I miffed him when I am replied "I am just joking, but it's not every morning you wake up and 6 Trillion Dollars Evaporates.  All the red hats in the store moaned in agony.

I am fully anticipating I may be on the MAGA wagon ride list. But there are a shytload of em on the list.

I went to the Reserve Wine Bar yesterday and the owner was in. He was as incoherent as your "phooking" post is. 
 

MR-7 » 06 Apr 2025, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 10:51 am

I went to the Reserve Wine Bar yesterday and the owner was in. He was as incoherent as your "phooking" post is.

I think the last distillery we visited in Kentucky went bust in the news yesterday.  Place was awesome, but in retroflection they invested way to heavily in future foreign sales and couldn't make their payments.  A 2.5 Million installation ready to rot in the bluegrass. A museum artifact of the Trumpocalypse.  Kind of like Auschwitz for Bourbon.