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Sounds like there are 50 Nations ready to "TALK" to America about about tariffs... and include:  EU, UK, India, Israel, and Taiwan !

If a handful of the key allies were to agree to END their unfair trade policies against America... or at least moderate them... the rest will fall in line in short order... because they ALL KNOW... when it comes to a "market" for their goods... America's market is the LARGEST in the world, and makes up 45%... of the REST of the WORLD combined !!

Its like a MOUSE standing up against an ELEPHANT... You might say ALL the rest of the world together "could" FIGHT BACK... but even if there were 10,000 mice... EVEN together they would stand little chance... and THEY ALL KNOW, their trade policies are unfair... HAVE BEEN unfair for YEARS, and the easiest way forward is to JUST GIVE America what it needs !!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... t-to-talk/
 

Yes...it's still early but it looks like the tariff anouncement that is only a few days old is already showing some positive signs.
This is what ROG62 posted earlier....

""Rust Belt worker, known only as “Robert,” told political journalist Mark Halperin this week that Trump’s tariff policies didn’t just help the economy—they restored respect. “I have seen, over my lifetime, every factory, every plant, every mill closed down,” he said. “Trump speaks to his base in every swing state—from Pennsylvania to Wisconsin to Michigan.”

Indeed, Trump’s reciprocal tariffs sent a clear message to foreign governments dumping cheap goods and gutting American industry: Not on our watch. If you want access to the American market, you’ll play by America’s rules.

The White House has said Trump’s 2025 trade measures are aimed at countering unjust trade practices and safeguarding the U.S. auto sector. But the strategy goes deeper—it’s about putting America First again in a world that’s been more than happy to treat our workers like disposable parts in a global machine.

This isn’t just about economics—it’s about patriotism. It’s about the belief that a strong nation is built with steel and grit, not spreadsheets and apologies. That’s the Trump difference. While Democrats sneer at the Midwest and prioritize ESG scores over employment, Trump walks into towns the left forgot and says: I see you. I hear you. And I’m going to fight like hell for you.When Trump raised his fist after surviving an assassination attempt and shouted “Fight! Fight! Fight!” it wasn’t just a campaign slogan. It was a promise—to every laid-off welder, every auto worker watching their factory shuttered, every trucker tired of being ignored. Trump fights because they deserve someone who will.

That’s why the Rust Belt is red again. Not because of partisanship—but because of loyalty to the one man who proved he wouldn’t trade American jobs for globalist applause.""

https://www.sonsof1776.com/watch-rust-b ... facturing/

They want access to our market they have to be fair with their markets

ConservativeWave » 06 Apr 2025, 5:24 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 5:24 pm

Sounds like there are 50 Nations ready to "TALK" to America about about tariffs... and include:  EU, UK, India, Israel, and Taiwan !

If a handful of the key allies were to agree to END their unfair trade policies against America... or at least moderate them... the rest will fall in line in short order... because they ALL KNOW... when it comes to a "market" for their goods... America's market is the LARGEST in the world, and makes up 45%... of the REST of the WORLD combined !!

Its like a MOUSE standing up against an ELEPHANT... You might say ALL the rest of the world together "could" FIGHT BACK... but even if there were 10,000 mice... EVEN together they would stand little chance... and THEY ALL KNOW, their trade policies are unfair... HAVE BEEN unfair for YEARS, and the easiest way forward is to JUST GIVE America what it needs !!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... t-to-talk/

The US is the "Biggest/Money/Buyer/Customer" on the planet....no one else comes close.

you can't target, boycott or tariff your biggest best customer and expect to survive.

of course the idiot Pedo=Progs are the only ones who can't figure that out...or anything else for that matter

Pedo=Progs are constantly yelling "We got em now"....but ALWAYS wind up taking a big fat one up the ***

 

But but but...leftist **** said this would destroy the world!

*GHETTO » wrote:

01 Feb 1970, 8:30 am

Yes...it's still early but it looks like the tariff anouncement that is only a few days old is already showing some positive signs.
This is what ROG62 posted earlier....

""Rust Belt worker, known only as “Robert,” told political journalist Mark Halperin this week that Trump’s tariff policies didn’t just help the economy—they restored respect. “I have seen, over my lifetime, every factory, every plant, every mill closed down,” he said. “Trump speaks to his base in every swing state—from Pennsylvania to Wisconsin to Michigan.”

Indeed, Trump’s reciprocal tariffs sent a clear message to foreign governments dumping cheap goods and gutting American industry: Not on our watch. If you want access to the American market, you’ll play by America’s rules.

The White House has said Trump’s 2025 trade measures are aimed at countering unjust trade practices and safeguarding the U.S. auto sector. But the strategy goes deeper—it’s about putting America First again in a world that’s been more than happy to treat our workers like disposable parts in a global machine.

This isn’t just about economics—it’s about patriotism. It’s about the belief that a strong nation is built with steel and grit, not spreadsheets and apologies. That’s the Trump difference. While Democrats sneer at the Midwest and prioritize ESG scores over employment, Trump walks into towns the left forgot and says: I see you. I hear you. And I’m going to fight like hell for you.When Trump raised his fist after surviving an assassination attempt and shouted “Fight! Fight! Fight!” it wasn’t just a campaign slogan. It was a promise—to every laid-off welder, every auto worker watching their factory shuttered, every trucker tired of being ignored. Trump fights because they deserve someone who will.

That’s why the Rust Belt is red again. Not because of partisanship—but because of loyalty to the one man who proved he wouldn’t trade American jobs for globalist applause.""

https://www.sonsof1776.com/watch-rust-b ... facturing/

 

I agree & yeah a shame this the path we had started taking 3/4 decades ago.

But "nobody" has answered my question.

Since then we have tore down most the old factories and mills then redeveloped those properties into new stuff like condos, parks, and shopping centers.

It aint like they are just sitting there and just open them up again they have been levelled and gone new development over that.

In that same time we have become "Dependant" on Foreign Imports much of our basic stuff everything from Auto Parts, Clothing, Electronics, Furniture, Shoes & Socks even "Pharmecuticals" when ya go to CVS or Walgreens Pharmacy much those perscriptions are made in China or India.

Ya dont snap your fingers and next week its all rebuilt and producing here in USA once again these must be completely rebuilt from ground up requiring long term investments of Millions even Billions of Dollars today.

Whats to say the companies & corporations arent gonna bite it afew years or so hopimg for change in Administration & Government Policy next afew Election cycles.
 

nefarious101 » 06 Apr 2025, 6:22 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 6:22 pm

The US is the "Biggest/Money/Buyer/Customer" on the planet....no one else comes close.

you can't target, boycott or tariff your biggest best customer and expect to survive.

of course the idiot Pedo=Progs are the only ones who can't figure that out...or anything else for that matter

Pedo=Progs are constantly yelling "We got em now"....but ALWAYS wind up taking a big fat one up the ***

Chris Christe former governor of New Jersey and once part of Trump administration 1st term gave an interview The Round Table on ABC.

Reince Prebius was also on ABC Round-Table from my immediate area a former politician and GOP Party Head or Administrator.

Chris Christie says if all Trump does is make a deal & negotiate the Tarriffs the Factories aint never coming back anyways.

Reince Preibus talked about Kenosha Wisconsin and way back in the day roughly half the town worked at American Motors later Chrysler after they bought em out.

Not just just that hundreds of sattelitte suppliers throught the region other companies who made made & supplied parts and components to former American Motors later Chrysler

Duplicate Post

My original question posted several other threads as well too..

viewtopic.php?p=2726919#p2726919

Yet everything around here seems to degenerate to name callimg or Gay chat feels more like Jr High than a debate
 

This was the Kenosha Engine plant back in the 1980s Quality Appreciation Day.

The Bodies were made at the Lakefront plant actually shipped across town get guts put in them and shipped back final finnishing.

Chrysler initially American Motors had spare capacity at its Kenosha and Milwaukee plants Lee Iaccocca struck a deal with em started making Chrysler Cars for em.

After the Buyout completed 1988 the Lakefront Body Plant was Torn Down afew years later.

The Engine Plant across town "Survived" another 20 some years but only employed a quarter the workers but designed and made some of Chryslers most iconic motors too that lasted them a generation too

https://youtu.be/NKy1eLK0RaQ?feature=shared

 
 

This was the "Final Assembly" Kenosha Lakefront Plant 1988..

https://youtu.be/oo8kq263nCU?feature=shared

This was the Ultimate Demise of the Kenosha Engine Plant about 15 years ago also the complete end of Auto Manufacturing in Kenosha Wisconsin.

https://youtu.be/gOe-0nd6pjc?feature=shared

TwoIfByTea » 07 Apr 2025, 1:50 am » wrote: ↑

07 Apr 2025, 1:50 am

This was the Kenosha Engine plant back in the 1980s Quality Appreciation Day.

The Bodies were made at the Lakefront plant actually shipped across town get guts put in them and shipped back final finnishing.

Chrysler initially American Motors had spare capacity at its Kenosha and Milwaukee plants Lee Iaccocca struck a deal with em started making Chrysler Cars for em.

After the Buyout completed 1988 the Lakefront Body Plant was Torn Down afew years later.

The Engine Plant across town "Survived" another 20 some years but only employed a quarter the workers but designed and made some of Chryslers most iconic motors too that lasted them a generation too

https://youtu.be/NKy1eLK0RaQ?feature=shared

May I also ask what was "Wrong" this kinda job.

Yeah it was "Long Hours " but ya made a "Living" too.

So ya showed up hungover or half stoned but ya Showed UP almost everyday and "Worked" did ya job on the line too plus  ya hadda "UNION" Protect Ya too talk 2 ya steward before talking 2 them kinda like when the Cops bust ya ask 4 a "Lawyer" thats a "Constitutional Right" as well.. before ya speak 2 the Police.

And when ya eventually appear infront of  courtroom get a haircut , shave, wear a shirt & tie Look like a freaking "Human Being" too

A Judge appreciates that too because  that shows them ya had "Respect" their Courtroom too maybe willing  make a deal with ya Attorney

Paid Mortgages of a afew decades or so heck employees discount ya went 2 dealership & traded up your car up every 5 years too for brand new sitting in ya driveway and ya could actually "Afford" It too

American Motors had 2 separate Parking lots one "Close" just walk across the street for "Loyal" workers who bought their cars too & why not ya working 4 em they were paying ya too plus "Employee" Dealership Discount later trade it up every 5 years or so

People had other cars especially Hondas and Toyotas they hadda park way out and walk 3/4 blocks to the entrance and punch in

Why did that work out back then but does not "Today

 Heck back then ya didnt even need an education if ya could just show up everyday on time ya do grunt work but eventually theyd train ya up better spots too..

Now my Old Uncle called that Sweatshop "N-Word" kinda work.

My Grandpa his "Father" told him 2 shut-up and I made it there for litle awhile before I ended up in "Prison"

 
 

TwoIfByTea » 07 Apr 2025, 2:26 am » wrote: ↑

07 Apr 2025, 2:26 am

May I also ask what was "Wrong" this kinda job.

Yeah it was "Long Hours " but ya made a "Living" too.

So ya showed up hungover or half stoned but ya Showed UP almost everyday and "Worked" did ya job on the line too plus  ya hadda "UNION" Protect Ya too talk 2 ya steward before talking 2 them kinda like when the Cops bust ya ask 4 a "Lawyer" thats a "Constitutional Right" as well.. before ya speak 2 the Police.

And when ya eventually appear infront of  courtroom get a haircut , shave, wear a shirt & tie Look like a freaking "Human Being" too

A Judge appreciates that too because  that shows them ya had "Respect" their Courtroom too maybe willing  make a deal with ya Attorney

Paid Mortgages of a afew decades or so heck employees discount ya went 2 dealership & traded up your car up every 5 years too for brand new sitting in ya driveway and ya could actually "Afford" It too

American Motors had 2 separate Parking lots one "Close" just walk across the street for "Loyal" workers who bought their cars too & why not ya working 4 em they were paying ya too plus "Employee" Dealership Discount later trade it up every 5 years or so

People had other cars especially Hondas and Toyotas they hadda park way out and walk 3/4 blocks to the entrance and punch in

Why did that work out back then but does not "Today

 Heck back then ya didnt even need an education if ya could just show up everyday on time ya do grunt work but eventually theyd train ya up better spots too..

Now my Old Uncle called that Sweatshop "N-Word" kinda work.

My Grandpa his "Father" told him 2 shut-up and I made it there for litle awhile before I ended up in "Prison"

I eventually ended up in "Prison" because I tried Crack.

Had such a "Lust" for that like $2/300 hundred bucks a day.

I started stealing everything wasnt nailed down eventually graduated "Fraud" then before Prison I was reduced just a "User Dealer" cuting  up dime bags just  hope make enough get high 4 free because I knew dealers in Chicago / Milwaukee buy it half the price keep that sell it 2 my freinds double but they were happy not a gun stuck in their face or ripped off it was "Real Stuff" too I just took half the favor but I knew where 2 "Score" that too


 

I cannot really explain a hit of really "Pure" CRACK 2 most people of other than think the best "Sex" ya ever had and multiply that by 10 fold when ya melt one down the chore-boy.

Thats what it feels like if ya ever smoked "Crack"

Its an "Intensity" High too even good stuff only lasts like 10/15 minutes.

After afew baggies ya just chasing the "Dragon it wont do anything 4 ya anymore .

I learned that eventually take afew hits put my crack away.

In the morning people ask me holy crap ya still got "Crack" yeah I wasnt anywhere anymore I saved afew baggies its called a "Tolerance" but most crackheads go all way nuts smoke every last crumb then push the pipe 2 hours looking out the peephole or picking thru the rug

 
 

TwoIfByTea » 07 Apr 2025, 4:27 am » wrote: ↑

07 Apr 2025, 4:27 am

I cannot really explain a hit of really "Pure" CRACK 2 most people of other than think the best "Sex" ya ever had and multiply that by 10 fold when ya melt one down the chore-boy.

Thats what it feels like if ya ever smoked "Crack"

Its an "Intensity" High too even good stuff only lasts like 10/15 minutes.

After afew baggies ya just chasing the "Dragon it wont do anything 4 ya anymore .

I learned that eventually take afew hits put my crack away.

In the morning people ask me holy crap ya still got "Crack" yeah I wasnt anywhere anymore I saved afew baggies its called a "Tolerance" but most crackheads go all way nuts smoke every last crumb then push the pipe 2 hours looking out the peephole or picking thru the rug

Chronic Alcholism much the same way..

Been drinking hard a long time ya tolerance goes way up.

Ya "Plateau" a trip 2 the Bar dont even do anything 4 ya anymore.

What eventually happens ya get the shakes and hallutionations and dont really get drunk anymore ya just slamming down afew drinks keep off the "Withdrawl" and ya cant sleep neither.

In "A/A" the MEETINGS was taught the "Kindling" Effects basically each time ya "Relapse" ya go right back where ya where and the Withdrawl get much worse.

Its a "Progressive" Disease too the only Real Cure never Drink ever again
 

TwoIfByTea » 07 Apr 2025, 1:10 am » wrote: ↑

07 Apr 2025, 1:10 am

Chris Christe former governor of New Jersey and once part of Trump administration 1st term gave an interview The Round Table on ABC.

Reince Prebius was also on ABC Round-Table from my immediate area a former politician and GOP Party Head or Administrator.

Chris Christie says if all Trump does is make a deal & negotiate the Tarriffs the Factories aint never coming back anyways.

Reince Preibus talked about Kenosha Wisconsin and way back in the day roughly half the town worked at American Motors later Chrysler after they bought em out.

Not just just that hundreds of sattelitte suppliers throught the region other companies who made made & supplied parts and components to former American Motors later Chrysler

If they want to sell their **** here make it here 

TwoIfByTea » 07 Apr 2025, 4:50 am » wrote: ↑

07 Apr 2025, 4:50 am

Chronic Alcholism much the same way..

Been drinking hard a long time ya tolerance goes way up.

Ya "Plateau" a trip 2 the Bar dont even do anything 4 ya anymore.

What eventually happens ya get the shakes and hallutionations and dont really get drunk anymore ya just slamming down afew drinks keep off the "Withdrawl" and ya cant sleep neither.

In "A/A" the MEETINGS was taught the "Kindling" Effects basically each time ya "Relapse" ya go right back where ya where and the Withdrawl get much worse.

Its a "Progressive" Disease too the only Real Cure never Drink ever again

It's a choice, not a disease.

*GHETTOBLASTER » 06 Apr 2025, 5:36 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Apr 2025, 5:36 pm

Yes...it's still early but it looks like the tariff anouncement that is only a few days old is already showing some positive signs.
This is what ROG62 posted earlier....

""Rust Belt worker, known only as “Robert,” told political journalist Mark Halperin this week that Trump’s tariff policies didn’t just help the economy—they restored respect. “I have seen, over my lifetime, every factory, every plant, every mill closed down,” he said. “Trump speaks to his base in every swing state—from Pennsylvania to Wisconsin to Michigan.”

Indeed, Trump’s reciprocal tariffs sent a clear message to foreign governments dumping cheap goods and gutting American industry: Not on our watch. If you want access to the American market, you’ll play by America’s rules.

The White House has said Trump’s 2025 trade measures are aimed at countering unjust trade practices and safeguarding the U.S. auto sector. But the strategy goes deeper—it’s about putting America First again in a world that’s been more than happy to treat our workers like disposable parts in a global machine.

This isn’t just about economics—it’s about patriotism. It’s about the belief that a strong nation is built with steel and grit, not spreadsheets and apologies. That’s the Trump difference. While Democrats sneer at the Midwest and prioritize ESG scores over employment, Trump walks into towns the left forgot and says: I see you. I hear you. And I’m going to fight like hell for you.When Trump raised his fist after surviving an assassination attempt and shouted “Fight! Fight! Fight!” it wasn’t just a campaign slogan. It was a promise—to every laid-off welder, every auto worker watching their factory shuttered, every trucker tired of being ignored. Trump fights because they deserve someone who will.

That’s why the Rust Belt is red again. Not because of partisanship—but because of loyalty to the one man who proved he wouldn’t trade American jobs for globalist applause.""

https://www.sonsof1776.com/watch-rust-b ... facturing/

Sons of 1776?

TwoIfByTea » 07 Apr 2025, 1:10 am » wrote: ↑

07 Apr 2025, 1:10 am

Chris Christe former governor of New Jersey and once part of Trump administration 1st term gave an interview The Round Table on ABC.

Reince Prebius was also on ABC Round-Table from my immediate area a former politician and GOP Party Head or Administrator.

Chris Christie says if all Trump does is make a deal & negotiate the Tarriffs the Factories aint never coming back anyways.

Reince Preibus talked about Kenosha Wisconsin and way back in the day roughly half the town worked at American Motors later Chrysler after they bought em out.

Not just just that hundreds of sattelitte suppliers throught the region other companies who made made & supplied parts and components to former American Motors later Chrysler

Christie and Preibus sure rocketed to the top of the political ladder.

The best the Progressives can do is paid fake news, paid protests, and paid fake facts put out by paid NGO's

If those things don't work Pedo=Progs immediately dive into violence and other people's property destruction.