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There’s a disturbing trend unfolding in American schools, and anyone who’s spent time talking to high school students can’t deny it: we are raising generations who don’t know basic history—and worse, they don’t even know that they don’t know it.I’ve spoken with seniors in high school who can’t identify Ulysses S. Grant, who have no idea what the Bill of Rights contains, and who confuse the Civil War with the American Revolution. I’ve even encountered students who believed slavery in the U.S. was more humane than slavery in Africa—a grotesque misunderstanding born from sanitized, watered-down teaching that avoids historical pain in favor of politically safe ambiguity.Many students can't name key figures from the founding era.

They don’t know who Alexander Hamilton was beyond a Broadway musical. They haven’t read the Declaration of Independence. They've never heard of Frederick Douglass, Ida B. Wells, or John Lewis. And the few who have only know them from brief side notes buried in chapters.This isn’t just a trivia issue—it’s a civic crisis. When a population doesn’t understand where its freedoms come from, how they were fought for, or who sacrificed to achieve them, those freedoms lose their meaning.

The less we remember, the easier we are to manipulate. The easier we are to divide. The easier we are to control.A democracy built on amnesia can’t last.We need to start teaching history the way it actually happened—warts and all. Not through sanitized soundbites or cherry-picked mythology, but through honest, rigorous engagement with our national past. That includes the ugliness. That includes the injustice. And that includes teaching students how to think about history, not just what to memorize and forget by test day.

And now, a brief reminder for @Blackvegetable  
You’ve dodged over 50 questions in your own threads. Until that changes, I’ll be dodging yours just as often. That’s called balance. Start answering, or stop demanding. Coward. Moron. retard. Loser. Punk. Imbecile. ****-for-brains. 
 

Vegas » 11 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

11 minutes ago

There’s a disturbing trend unfolding in American schools, and anyone who’s spent time talking to high school students can’t deny it: we are raising generations who don’t know basic history—and worse, they don’t even know that they don’t know it.I’ve spoken with seniors in high school who can’t identify Ulysses S. Grant, who have no idea what the Bill of Rights contains, and who confuse the Civil War with the American Revolution. I’ve even encountered students who believed slavery in the U.S. was more humane than slavery in Africa—a grotesque misunderstanding born from sanitized, watered-down teaching that avoids historical pain in favor of politically safe ambiguity.Many students can't name key figures from the founding era.

They don’t know who Alexander Hamilton was beyond a Broadway musical. They haven’t read the Declaration of Independence. They've never heard of Frederick Douglass, Ida B. Wells, or John Lewis. And the few who have only know them from brief side notes buried in chapters.This isn’t just a trivia issue—it’s a civic crisis. When a population doesn’t understand where its freedoms come from, how they were fought for, or who sacrificed to achieve them, those freedoms lose their meaning.

The less we remember, the easier we are to manipulate. The easier we are to divide. The easier we are to control.A democracy built on amnesia can’t last.We need to start teaching history the way it actually happened—warts and all. Not through sanitized soundbites or cherry-picked mythology, but through honest, rigorous engagement with our national past. That includes the ugliness. That includes the injustice. And that includes teaching students how to think about history, not just what to memorize and forget by test day.

And now, a brief reminder for @Blackvegetable  
You’ve dodged over 50 questions in your own threads. Until that changes, I’ll be dodging yours just as often. That’s called balance. Start answering, or stop demanding. Coward. Moron. retard. Loser. Punk. Imbecile. ****-for-brains.

A lot of truth and facts you have posted...especially this. 
And now, a brief reminder for @Blackvegetable  
You’ve dodged over 50 questions in your own threads. Until that changes, I’ll be dodging yours just as often. That’s called balance. Start answering or stop demanding.
And this...
Coward. Moron. retard. Loser. Punk. Imbecile. ****-for-brains. 
 
 

MR-7 » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

12 minutes ago

A lot of truth and facts you have posted...especially this. 
And now, a brief reminder for @Blackvegetable  
You’ve dodged over 50 questions in your own threads. Until that changes, I’ll be dodging yours just as often. That’s called balance. Start answering or stop demanding.
And this...
Coward. Moron. retard. Loser. Punk. Imbecile. ****-for-brains.

       Trust me, he will still ignore the number of times he has dodged my questions, then proceed to belt out 600 questions/demands to me anyway.

Give states the right to decide what is taught is the plan

Teach the Bible as fact if they want to

But will the states that don’t want to teach the Bible as fact be allowed to do that?

We will see

https://youtube.com/shorts/qU_fzWpwhrc? ... xX8M1mlUSv

https://youtube.com/shorts/A62bd0qnDGo? ... OEO9KPlWOA
 
 

Mrkelly » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

12 minutes ago

Give states the right to decide what is taught is the plan

Teach the Bible as fact if they want to

But will the states that don’t want to teach the Bible as fact be allowed to do that?

We will see




 

Church and state should never intertwine, be it from the state or federal level. That opens things up to all sorts of problems. Satanism is also a religion. Thus, we would need to allow them in as well., etc...
 

Vegas » 24 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

24 minutes ago

Church and state should never intertwine, be it from the state or federal level. That opens things up to all sorts of problems. Satanism is also a religion. Thus, we would need to allow them in as well., etc...

Too late

Mrkelly » 8 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

8 minutes ago

Too late

Wouldn't be the first time the government screwed up education. 

I am ambivalent about dismantling the DOE. Some states have enough wealth already that it won't affect them. However, many states depended on the federal funds. Like my beloved state of Nevada. The poorer areas of our town will have an increased class size. This will probably lead to high turnover rate from teachers. Taxes will need to be raised, but I don't know what they will tax more. Maybe the sports games. I don't know. Or maybe they will do what they always do and not give a **** either way. 

Vegas » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

7 minutes ago

Wouldn't be the first time the government screwed up education. 

I am ambivalent about dismantling the DOE. Some states have enough wealth already that it won't affect them. However, many states depended on the federal funds. Like my beloved state of Nevada. The poorer areas of our town will have an increased class size. This will probably lead to high turnover rate from teachers. Taxes will need to be raised, but I don't know what they will tax more. Maybe the sports games. I don't know. Or maybe they will do what they always do and not give a **** either way.

There’s nothing left to tax. Everyone but the upper middle class and higher have been bled dry by a combination of debt slavery, wage slavery, and tax slavery.

Brought to you by the Tiny Hats 

LowIQTrash » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

There’s nothing left to tax. Everyone but the rich, wealthy, and ultra wealthy have been bled dry by a combination of debt slavery, wage slavery, and tax slavery.

Even lower level millionaires like @FOS  can feel the pinch (he’s frugal so he doesn’t care that much).

Brought to you by the Tiny Hats

The casino industry here burdens most of the tax revenue. However, they depend on tourists, not the locals. They might put more burden on the casinos. 

Our downfall began when they started bringing *** here from Africa.
There was even a war fought over it.

Not one single public official is at liberty state the prime reason for why our test scores have dropped since the dawn of the Civil rights Movement...without committing a [[[HATE SPEECH CRIME]]]

Can any of you Truth Hating POS White Guilt Libtards hazard a guess as to what I am getting at...?
 

Public education is a failure. Fix it or change it. Teacher unions have killed education. Liberals are a cancer that needs to be cut out.

Vegas » Today, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:40 am

I’ve even encountered students who believed slavery in the U.S. was more humane than slavery in Africa—a grotesque misunderstanding born from sanitized, watered-down teaching that avoids historical pain in favor of politically safe ambiguity.


 

Pretty good post, but why do you think slaves had it worse in America than one's in Africa did? As far as I know, a slave in America was never eaten by a lion or killed by a water buffalo.     

Vegas » Today, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:40 am

There’s a disturbing trend unfolding in American schools, and anyone who’s spent time talking to high school students can’t deny it: we are raising generations who don’t know basic history—and worse, they don’t even know that they don’t know it.I’ve spoken with seniors in high school who can’t identify Ulysses S. Grant, who have no idea what the Bill of Rights contains, and who confuse the Civil War with the American Revolution. I’ve even encountered students who believed slavery in the U.S. was more humane than slavery in Africa—a grotesque misunderstanding born from sanitized, watered-down teaching that avoids historical pain in favor of politically safe ambiguity.Many students can't name key figures from the founding era.

They don’t know who Alexander Hamilton was beyond a Broadway musical. They haven’t read the Declaration of Independence. They've never heard of Frederick Douglass, Ida B. Wells, or John Lewis. And the few who have only know them from brief side notes buried in chapters.This isn’t just a trivia issue—it’s a civic crisis. When a population doesn’t understand where its freedoms come from, how they were fought for, or who sacrificed to achieve them, those freedoms lose their meaning.

The less we remember, the easier we are to manipulate. The easier we are to divide. The easier we are to control.A democracy built on amnesia can’t last.We need to start teaching history the way it actually happened—warts and all. Not through sanitized soundbites or cherry-picked mythology, but through honest, rigorous engagement with our national past. That includes the ugliness. That includes the injustice. And that includes teaching students how to think about history, not just what to memorize and forget by test day.

And now, a brief reminder for @Blackvegetable  
You’ve dodged over 50 questions in your own threads. Until that changes, I’ll be dodging yours just as often. That’s called balance. Start answering, or stop demanding. Coward. Moron. retard. Loser. Punk. Imbecile. ****-for-brains.

You want disturbing, check this out!

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/m ... ody-cases/
 

Vegas » Today, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:40 am

There’s a disturbing trend unfolding in American schools, and anyone who’s spent time talking to high school students can’t deny it: we are raising generations who don’t know basic history—and worse, they don’t even know that they don’t know it.I’ve spoken with seniors in high school who can’t identify Ulysses S. Grant, who have no idea what the Bill of Rights contains, and who confuse the Civil War with the American Revolution. I’ve even encountered students who believed slavery in the U.S. was more humane than slavery in Africa—a grotesque misunderstanding born from sanitized, watered-down teaching that avoids historical pain in favor of politically safe ambiguity.Many students can't name key figures from the founding era.

They don’t know who Alexander Hamilton was beyond a Broadway musical. They haven’t read the Declaration of Independence. They've never heard of Frederick Douglass, Ida B. Wells, or John Lewis. And the few who have only know them from brief side notes buried in chapters.This isn’t just a trivia issue—it’s a civic crisis. When a population doesn’t understand where its freedoms come from, how they were fought for, or who sacrificed to achieve them, those freedoms lose their meaning.

The less we remember, the easier we are to manipulate. The easier we are to divide. The easier we are to control.A democracy built on amnesia can’t last.We need to start teaching history the way it actually happened—warts and all. Not through sanitized soundbites or cherry-picked mythology, but through honest, rigorous engagement with our national past. That includes the ugliness. That includes the injustice. And that includes teaching students how to think about history, not just what to memorize and forget by test day.

And now, a brief reminder for @Blackvegetable  
You’ve dodged over 50 questions in your own threads. Until that changes, I’ll be dodging yours just as often. That’s called balance. Start answering, or stop demanding. Coward. Moron. retard. Loser. Punk. Imbecile. ****-for-brains.

3 trillion dollars and we end up with Karoline Leavitt the dumb blonde Press Secretary

I admit the national education strategy has sucked.  But if Iowa takes over their own education we may resurrect Neanderthals from extinction there.

That would be a horrible devolution.
 

Vegas » Today, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:40 am

There’s a disturbing trend unfolding in American schools, and anyone who’s spent time talking to high school students can’t deny it: we are raising generations who don’t know basic history—and worse, they don’t even know that they don’t know it.I’ve spoken with seniors in high school who can’t identify Ulysses S. Grant, who have no idea what the Bill of Rights contains, and who confuse the Civil War with the American Revolution. I’ve even encountered students who believed slavery in the U.S. was more humane than slavery in Africa—a grotesque misunderstanding born from sanitized, watered-down teaching that avoids historical pain in favor of politically safe ambiguity.Many students can't name key figures from the founding era.

They don’t know who Alexander Hamilton was beyond a Broadway musical. They haven’t read the Declaration of Independence. They've never heard of Frederick Douglass, Ida B. Wells, or John Lewis. And the few who have only know them from brief side notes buried in chapters.This isn’t just a trivia issue—it’s a civic crisis. When a population doesn’t understand where its freedoms come from, how they were fought for, or who sacrificed to achieve them, those freedoms lose their meaning.

The less we remember, the easier we are to manipulate. The easier we are to divide. The easier we are to control.A democracy built on amnesia can’t last.We need to start teaching history the way it actually happened—warts and all. Not through sanitized soundbites or cherry-picked mythology, but through honest, rigorous engagement with our national past. That includes the ugliness. That includes the injustice. And that includes teaching students how to think about history, not just what to memorize and forget by test day.

And now, a brief reminder for @Blackvegetable  
You’ve dodged over 50 questions in your own threads. Until that changes, I’ll be dodging yours just as often. That’s called balance. Start answering, or stop demanding. Coward. Moron. retard. Loser. Punk. Imbecile. ****-for-brains.

Have you seen that idiot @*VegasVagina wrestle with prepositions?

Wait.....you ARE that idiot @*VegasVagina...


This is awkward...
 

Vegas » Today, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:40 am

There’s a disturbing trend unfolding in American schools, and anyone who’s spent time talking to high school students can’t deny it: we are raising generations who don’t know basic history—and worse, they don’t even know that they don’t know it.I’ve spoken with seniors in high school who can’t identify Ulysses S. Grant, who have no idea what the Bill of Rights contains, and who confuse the Civil War with the American Revolution. I’ve even encountered students who believed slavery in the U.S. was more humane than slavery in Africa—a grotesque misunderstanding born from sanitized, watered-down teaching that avoids historical pain in favor of politically safe ambiguity.Many students can't name key figures from the founding era.

They don’t know who Alexander Hamilton was beyond a Broadway musical. They haven’t read the Declaration of Independence. They've never heard of Frederick Douglass, Ida B. Wells, or John Lewis. And the few who have only know them from brief side notes buried in chapters.This isn’t just a trivia issue—it’s a civic crisis. When a population doesn’t understand where its freedoms come from, how they were fought for, or who sacrificed to achieve them, those freedoms lose their meaning.

The less we remember, the easier we are to manipulate. The easier we are to divide. The easier we are to control.A democracy built on amnesia can’t last.We need to start teaching history the way it actually happened—warts and all. Not through sanitized soundbites or cherry-picked mythology, but through honest, rigorous engagement with our national past. That includes the ugliness. That includes the injustice. And that includes teaching students how to think about history, not just what to memorize and forget by test day.

And now, a brief reminder for @Blackvegetable  
You’ve dodged over 50 questions in your own threads. Until that changes, I’ll be dodging yours just as often. That’s called balance. Start answering, or stop demanding. Coward. Moron. retard. Loser. Punk. Imbecile. ****-for-brains. 
 

What does academia teach each generation forward in every social narrative practiced last 7,000 years?

Blackvegetable » Yesterday, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 5:38 pm

Have you seen that idiot @*VegasVagina wrestle with prepositions?

Wait.....you ARE that idiot @*VegasVagina...

This is awkward...

Idiot. You are just pissed because you are owed about 60 dodges. That's how many times you have dodged my questions. 

Now post the rule.   

RebelGator » Yesterday, 4:41 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 4:41 pm

Pretty good post, but why do you think slaves had it worse in America than one's in Africa did? As far as I know, a slave in America was never eaten by a lion or killed by a water buffalo.   

 In Africa, slavery was often domestic or kin-based. Slaves were usually absorbed into households or clans and sometimes could rise in status or even marry into the family. Many were war captives, debtors, or criminals. However in America, slavery was chattel slavery, meaning slaves were treated as property, with no rights or recognition of their humanity. Their children were also born into slavery, and families were routinely separated. Also in Africa, slavery was not the backbone of the economy. Most African societies were not industrialized and didn't rely heavily on large-scale plantation labor. In America, slavery was crucial to the plantation economy, especially in producing sugar, cotton, and tobacco. The demand for labor led to brutal exploitation to maximize profits. African slaves could sometimes earn freedom, own property, or even become part of the ruling class. In contrast, freedom for American slaves was rare, and freed black people still faced systemic racism and legal barriers.
 

PhiloBeddo » Yesterday, 4:04 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 4:04 pm

Public education is a failure. Fix it or change it. Teacher unions have killed education. Liberals are a cancer that needs to be cut out.

My advice would be to end it entirely!
There is NOTHING that government can do more efficiently than private businesses.
If parents were given vouchers for the amount we're spending on education for each kid, private ownership in education would be happy to provide a far better system in record time than what we have now!  Parents would NOT tolerate the kind of failure we see in the public schools if they had the ability to pull their kid out and place them in a better schools.  And those parents who WANT their child to be taught to choose their own sex, have drag queen story hours, read sexually explicit books, advance the LGBTQ agenda, allow biological men to compete in women's sports, install tampon machines in boys restrooms, and be taught how evil the US has been throughout history will still be able to find schools that provide that.  But the schools that will be in far greater demand will be the ones cutting out all that **** and use that time to teach reading, writing, math, and history, and those schools will flourish and grow by huge numbers.

And I guarantee that cities filled with minority populations would overnight be transformed into having overwhelming numbers of voters who switch to the Republican party based on that one issue as Democrats scream with rage!