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Ive posted this in the past this is latest.

Rent even here in the MIDWEST gotten so "Sky High" that people started camping in the "Park & Ride" lots off the Freeways.

Now after many Police Calls the State Department Of Transportation says thats our "Property" Get Out and Concrete Barrier Blocks to the exits.

https://youtu.be/KmxnYIhLWyY?feature=shared

TwoIfByTea » 23 Apr 2025, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:20 pm

Ive posted this in the past this is latest.

Rent even here in the MIDWEST gotten so "Sky High" that people started camping in the "Park & Ride" lots off the Freeways.

Now after many Police Calls the State Department Of Transportation says thats our "Property" Get Out and Concrete Barrier Blocks to the exits.

https://youtu.be/KmxnYIhLWyY?feature=shared

Two things: Do they have kids? Do they do drugs?
Neither is victimless. Both are a choice.

I dont know what the answer is but since we started thinking of Housing as an "Investment" and Hedge Funds buying up properties theres alot more Homeless ya see em everywhere nowadays even in smaller towns.

Used 2 be back in the day the Hardcore bums lived in the CITY and passed out in the alleys..

Today they everywhere out there in plain view everyday

Don't give them ****. See how quick they figure it out. Shame them and keep chasing them out. BULLYING WORKS, it always has.

PhiloBeddo » 23 Apr 2025, 7:29 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:29 pm

Don't give them ****. See how quick they figure it out. Shame them and keep chasing them out. BULLYING WORKS, it always has.

The Freeways the Interstate Highways fall under State Department Of Transportation & their "Property".

Local Cops where "Slow Rolling" it not wanting "Confrontation" or possible "RIOTS" like back during Covid19

TwoIfByTea » 23 Apr 2025, 7:26 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:26 pm

I dont know what the answer is but since we started thinking of Housing as an "Investment" and Hedge Funds buying up properties theres alot more Homeless ya see em everywhere nowadays even in smaller towns.

Used 2 be back in the day the Hardcore bums lived in the CITY and passed out in the alleys..

Today they everywhere out there in plain view everyday

Even when there is cheaper housing available, it gets torn up.
The residents don't give a ****. They have no skin in the game.

Maybe I been around Detroit too long but it happens ALL THE TIME.
Build an "affordable housing complex". Turns to complete ****.
Subsidize houses in neighborhoods. Neighborhood turns to ****.
Always.

Let them squat at a park n ride:
No **** way people will leave a vehicle there. **** trash steals stuff.
I have no solution. I'm not trained in any way to come up with something.
I don't have much empathy either.

Allowing this to become socially acceptable isn't a solution either.
That's where we seem to be these days. Crocodile tears for the poor bastards.

DeezerShoove » 23 Apr 2025, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:39 pm

Even when there is cheaper housing available, it gets torn up.
The residents don't give a ****. They have no skin in the game.

Maybe I been around Detroit too long but it happens ALL THE TIME.
Build an "affordable housing complex". Turns to complete ****.
Subsidize houses in neighborhoods. Neighborhood turns to ****.
Always.

Let them squat at a park n ride:
No **** way people will leave a vehicle there. **** trash steals stuff.
I have no solution. I'm not trained in any way to come up with something.
I don't have much empathy either.

Allowing this to become socially acceptable isn't a solution either.
That's where we seem to be these days. Crocodile tears for the poor bastards.

Milwaukee went much the same way back in 1970s/1980s ..

Once the black people moved in everybody else sold cheaper moved out the suburbs.

Today Milwaukee anything north of 94 East/West Freeway is a ten by ten square miles of "Crack Ghetto" all the way to the COUNTY LINE
 

TwoIfByTea » 23 Apr 2025, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:20 pm

Ive posted this in the past this is latest.

Rent even here in the MIDWEST gotten so "Sky High" that people started camping in the "Park & Ride" lots off the Freeways.

Now after many Police Calls the State Department Of Transportation says thats our "Property" Get Out and Concrete Barrier Blocks to the exits.

https://youtu.be/KmxnYIhLWyY?feature=shared

homeless are homeless for a reason.

I hitchhiked for about a year around the country when I was a kid....technically I was homeless at the time but it was by choice



 

nefarious101 » 23 Apr 2025, 7:59 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:59 pm

homeless are homeless for a reason.

I hitchhiked for about a year around the country when I was a kid....technically I was homeless at the time but it was by choice

Ive hiked parts of the Appalachian Trail but because I wanted too & had the money $aved Up ahead I could just say screw it for awhile.

Most people live a paycheck or 2 away from "Homelessness" nowadays.

Now as I said earlier growing up "True Bums" lived Downtown and slept in the alleys those were like your true "Hardcore" Drunks & Heroin Junkys

Today they are everywhere
 
 
 

TwoIfByTea » 23 Apr 2025, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:20 pm

Ive posted this in the past this is latest.

Rent even here in the MIDWEST gotten so "Sky High" that people started camping in the "Park & Ride" lots off the Freeways.

Now after many Police Calls the State Department Of Transportation says thats our "Property" Get Out and Concrete Barrier Blocks to the exits.

https://youtu.be/KmxnYIhLWyY?feature=shared

Where should they go? How about to work!

Id say 1st Step is we need "Hardcore" Federal Legistation that Blackrock & Hedge Funds cannot buy up "Residential" Properties

Good Luck with that they lobby and pad "Both Sides" of WashDC very well..

Just like Healthcare both sides $$$ up enough nothing ever changes

Ya think stuff bad right now.

Wait another 10/15 years see the "Morons" walking around today they will be Middle Aged and "Running Stuff" too

Seems like we have a lot of able people who just won't work. We have a lot of working people who who, as mentioned earlier, live pay check to pay check...but most seem to have all the toys and a parade of Amazon trucks coming to their door. They don't take responsibility and live within their means. The schools are too busy teaching and promoting deviant sex to be bothered with teaching math and economics ( budgeting).

Nothing wrong with a safety net for those who are destitute through no fault of their own AFTER THEIR FAMILY AND LOCAL COMMUNITY HAVE EXHAUSED THEIIR RESOURCES.

We support too many people who should be supporting themselves and that makes it hard to help those who should be helped.

And no I don't want homeless people setting up camp all over the place. Go to a campground and pay for a spot.
 

TwoIfByTea » 23 Apr 2025, 8:05 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 8:05 pm

Ive hiked parts of the Appalachian Trail but because I wanted too & had the money $aved Up ahead I could just say screw it for awhile.

Most people live a paycheck or 2 away from "Homelessness" nowadays.

Now as I said earlier growing up "True Bums" lived Downtown and slept in the alleys those were like your true "Hardcore" Drunks & Heroin Junkys

Today they are everywhere

It will change once society changes....

people have been trained to either shut up or ignore real problems

fixing the problem has been labeled being against people's "Constitutional Rights"

Like everything else the "Constitution" has been weaponized to allow bad behavior of all kinds

Two If By Tea » 23 Apr 2025, 7:20 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:20 pm

Ive posted this in the past this is latest.

Rent even here in the MIDWEST gotten so "Sky High" that people started camping in the "Park & Ride" lots off the Freeways.

Now after many Police Calls the State Department Of Transportation says thats our "Property" Get Out and Concrete Barrier Blocks to the exits.

https://youtu.be/KmxnYIhLWyY?feature=shared

Homeless is by choice in believing life isn't self evident time adapting daily here living eternally separated in plain sight. Ancestors have abused their free will choices last 7,000 years.
and I am **** tired of every abuser blaming me for their position today.

DeezerShoove » 23 Apr 2025, 7:39 pm » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:39 pm

Even when there is cheaper housing available, it gets torn up.
The residents don't give a ****. They have no skin in the game.

Maybe I been around Detroit too long but it happens ALL THE TIME.
Build an "affordable housing complex". Turns to complete ****.
Subsidize houses in neighborhoods. Neighborhood turns to ****.
Always.

Let them squat at a park n ride:
No **** way people will leave a vehicle there. **** trash steals stuff.
I have no solution. I'm not trained in any way to come up with something.
I don't have much empathy either.

Allowing this to become socially acceptable isn't a solution either.
That's where we seem to be these days. Crocodile tears for the poor bastards.

This mirrors my sentiment on this topic. It is a huge mistake for cities to allow Bums to squat and live in public spaces.  1) It completely defeats the purpose of those places paid for by tax dollars when the cities were "selling" it to its citizens; and 2) its a cheap, hands-off, do-nothing approach to the problem of dealing with Bums.

I hate public housing.  Like Deezer said, the Bums quickly tear it up and destroy it.  But, I do think some form of Bum-housing needs to exist.  And, the drug-addicted Bums need to be separated from the Bums who are mentally inferior or just down on their luck.  The latter group can be made to "work" to keep the housing complex tidy, maintained and clean. That can be their "job" if they are going to live there. Sort of like a commune with a dictator who enforces the rules.

The former group, the addicts - well, they just need to be given a place where they can go to get high and die. Within this space, they would be provided with a place to live, some basic non-nutritious food and water......and drugs.  "Welcome to Bum Acres - where you can get high and die".
 

Skans » 24 Apr 2025, 7:44 am » wrote: ↑

24 Apr 2025, 7:44 am

This mirrors my sentiment on this topic. It is a huge mistake for cities to allow Bums to squat and live in public spaces.  1) It completely defeats the purpose of those places paid for by tax dollars when the cities were "selling" it to its citizens; and 2) its a cheap, hands-off, do-nothing approach to the problem of dealing with Bums.

I hate public housing.  Like Deezer said, the Bums quickly tear it up and destroy it.  But, I do think some form of Bum-housing needs to exist.  And, the drug-addicted Bums need to be separated from the Bums who are mentally inferior or just down on their luck.  The latter group can be made to "work" to keep the housing complex tidy, maintained and clean. That can be their "job" if they are going to live there. Sort of like a commune with a dictator who enforces the rules.

The former group, the addicts - well, they just need to be given a place where they can go to get high and die. Within this space, they would be provided with a place to live, some basic non-nutritious food and water......and drugs.  "Welcome to Bum Acres - where you can get high and die".

If people have turned their lives into a hell they can't get out of without help, then give them help . . . until it is rebuked. Chronic relapsing is a very sure sign this will not end well. Why delay the inevitable? Why torture the tortured? Get the poor **** onto the moving sidewalk toward the light.

Any so-called re-hab is fruitless.
Nobody needs "studying" to learn how to fix trash.
A better example than cattle cars full of addicts for ScaredStraight kids would be a catalog of pictures of dead people. Lower maintenance and about as effective.

The so-called War on Drugs has been corrupted from the onset.
Good intentions get that way. Look at almost every liberal feel-good program.

"People are no damn good."
Lex Luthor's father.

DeezerShoove » 24 Apr 2025, 10:50 am » wrote: ↑

24 Apr 2025, 10:50 am

If people have turned their lives into a hell they can't get out of without help, then give them help . . . until it is rebuked. Chronic relapsing is a very sure sign this will not end well. Why delay the inevitable? Why torture the tortured? Get the poor **** onto the moving sidewalk toward the light.

Any so-called re-hab is fruitless.
Nobody needs "studying" to learn how to fix trash.
A better example than cattle cars full of addicts for ScaredStraight kids would be a catalog of pictures of dead people. Lower maintenance and about as effective.

The so-called War on Drugs has been corrupted from the onset.
Good intentions get that way. Look at almost every liberal feel-good program.

"People are no damn good."
Lex Luthor's father.
 

Recreational drugs are just going to get more and more addictive. Try it once, you're an addict.  That's where this **** is going.  This is going to be a country of drug addicts and clean people. Once people realize that the new breed of drug addicts can't be cured, they will just let them have all the drugs they want until they die. Once this happens on a regular basis, there will be a sizable number of people who steer clear of recreational drugs altogether. 

The real problem will be when potent, highly-addictive drugs can be added to candy, vapes, prescription medicines, and food.  You think the Chinese haven't already thought of that?  Sure they have.  They are working hard on this just like the Germans were working on Chemical Weapons after Fritz Haber invented a bunch of them, including Zyklon B. The Chinese will mass-poison Americans with highly addictive drugs the first opportunity they get.
 

Everybody else has no problem keeping a job and a home. Stop babying the **** homeless. They are mentally ill and should be locked in mental institutions. You can't unscramble brains. **** em, lock them up. Bullying works.

Skans » 24 Apr 2025, 11:04 am » wrote: ↑

24 Apr 2025, 11:04 am

Recreational drugs are just going to get more and more addictive. Try it once, you're an addict.  That's where this **** is going.  This is going to be a country of drug addicts and clean people. Once people realize that the new breed of drug addicts can't be cured, they will just let them have all the drugs they want until they die. Once this happens on a regular basis, there will be a sizable number of people who steer clear of recreational drugs altogether. 

The real problem will be when potent, highly-addictive drugs can be added to candy, vapes, prescription medicines, and food.  You think the Chinese haven't already thought of that?  Sure they have.  They are working hard on this just like the Germans were working on Chemical Weapons after Fritz Haber invented a bunch of them, including Zyklon B. The Chinese will mass-poison Americans with highly addictive drugs the first opportunity they get.

I said this once years ago give em all the "Heroin " they want "High Dose" and theyll drop like flies.

But that aint the way stuff works