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Skans » 11 May 2025, 1:03 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 1:03 pm

You can't even get that right.  Nearly all modern decks of playing cards have 55 cards.  Some have 56.  

• 52 standard cards
• 2 jokers

THANK YOU.

FFS, I was feeling totally dissed. 
 

Skans » 11 May 2025, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 1:10 pm

We need to keep facilitating the stream of businesses leaving China, especially semi-conductors and pharmaceuticals. I'd like to see electronics manufacturing return to the US as well.

Yes, China is imploding. I would rather see a steady decline in China rather than have it implode. Ask yourself - what do Countries do when the economy sucks, everyone is unemployed, and the leader is taking a lot of heat?  Hint, what did Germany do after going through hyper inflation, massive unemployment and a long term stagnant economy following the Treaty of Versailles, especially when the US wasn't there to finance its fragile economy?

OH!!! Oh, OH!!! Mistah Kottah! Mistah Kottah!!





Go after the jews?
 
 

Cannonpointer » 11 May 2025, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 1:08 pm

Jews.

   I never thought of that...

Mrkelly » 11 May 2025, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 8:47 am

IMO tRump will drop the tariffs down if he wants a deal

he already exempted all electronics from china of his new tariffs 

more to come

 

Skans » 11 May 2025, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 1:10 pm

We need to keep facilitating the stream of businesses leaving China, especially semi-conductors and pharmaceuticals. I'd like to see electronics manufacturing return to the US as well.

Yes, China is imploding. I would rather see a steady decline in China rather than have it implode. Ask yourself - what do Countries do when the economy sucks, everyone is unemployed, and the leader is taking a lot of heat?  Hint, what did Germany do after going through hyper inflation, massive unemployment and a long term stagnant economy following the Treaty of Versailles, especially when the US wasn't there to finance its fragile economy?  Or, more recently, what did America do after its President got caught with his pecker in a young intern's mouth?

 

Skans » 11 May 2025, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 1:10 pm

We need to keep facilitating the stream of businesses leaving China, especially semi-conductors and pharmaceuticals. I'd like to see electronics manufacturing return to the US as well.

Yes, China is imploding. I would rather see a steady decline in China rather than have it implode. Ask yourself - what do Countries do when the economy sucks, everyone is unemployed, and the leader is taking a lot of heat?  Hint, what did Germany do after going through hyper inflation, massive unemployment and a long term stagnant economy following the Treaty of Versailles, especially when the US wasn't there to finance its fragile economy?  Or, more recently, what did America do after its President got caught with his pecker in a young intern's mouth?

Just saw a report that China and Trump have reached a deal... IF TRUE, it tells us a LOT of things:

1)  I can't imagine that ANY trade deal would be made that didn't include ALL of the provisions that China agreed to in 2018, and then BROKE as soon as Joe Biden was elected... THAT deal included requirements that China NOT steal American technology any longer, Opening up their imports (not just exports), and NO LONGER engaging in a laundry list of other illegal trade activities... that were explicitly stipulated in the 2018 agreement...

2)  They will have to have agreed KNOWING that Apple, HP, Google, Walmart and OTHER companies have decided to LEAVE China...

3)  THEY may have ONLY made the agreements expecting to WAIT OUT Trump, and HOPING for another Democrat to take office... so they can BREAK all the agreements JUST like the did before...

I would think Donald Trump has sim surprises for them if that is true !!
 

31stArrival » 11 May 2025, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 1:18 pm

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. semantics again.

No, not semantics.  You don't understand the definition of semantics.  When you say that a deck of cards has 52 cards, but are wrong because they have more than 52 cards, that's not semantics, that's just WRONG!  Clearly wrong.  But, not only are you wrong, you will never admit when you are wrong, and I find this slightly more interesting than the fact that you are wrong.

Many popular card games are played without using jokers, ...

The old Sole-Bait-&-Switch. You never said anything about card games.  You were speaking of a deck of cards. But, when you are clearly wrong you try oh-so hard to change the narrative.  Foolishly and ineptly try to change the narrative.  Such a nonsense thing like getting the number of cards wrong in a deck of playing cards, most normal people would say something like "Oh snap, I forgot about those extra cards - got me, card counting nazi!"

 
 

Cannonpointer » 11 May 2025, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 1:39 pm

While keeping Taiwan as a US proxy?

Yeah - good luck.

Well, I was wrong about the 15% - he went down to 10%.  LOL, but let's see how close this China deal comes to what I said it would be.  It will appear that Trump made all kinds of concessions, except several things - one of which is a 10% tariff.  And, that together with some tax incentives, might be all it takes to get TWSC to build more plants in the US.
 

Cannonpointer » 11 May 2025, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 1:42 pm

OH!!! Oh, OH!!! Mistah Kottah! Mistah Kottah!!

Go after the jews?

WTF are you rambling on about this morning?
 

ConservativeWave » 11 May 2025, 3:55 pm » wrote: ↑

11 May 2025, 3:55 pm

Just saw a report that China and Trump have reached a deal... IF TRUE, it tells us a LOT of things:

1)  I can't imagine that ANY trade deal would be made that didn't include ALL of the provisions that China agreed to in 2018, and then BROKE as soon as Joe Biden was elected... THAT deal included requirements that China NOT steal American technology any longer, Opening up their imports (not just exports), and NO LONGER engaging in a laundry list of other illegal trade activities... that were explicitly stipulated in the 2018 agreement...

2)  They will have to have agreed KNOWING that Apple, HP, Google, Walmart and OTHER companies have decided to LEAVE China...

3)  THEY may have ONLY made the agreements expecting to WAIT OUT Trump, and HOPING for another Democrat to take office... so they can BREAK all the agreements JUST like the did before...

I would think Donald Trump has sim surprises for them if that is true !!

Trump gets to keep a 10% tariff on China. It should be 15%, so he capitulated a little more than I thought he would.  He will likely get a deal to curtail the fentanyl-flow. Stealing technology?  Forget it, you might as well ask the Chinese to lose the slant in their eyes. Any deal will be based upon the actual trade surplus going down, which means hidden tariffs and barriers to market entry won't work for China.
 

Skans » 12 May 2025, 7:21 am » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 7:21 am

No, not semantics.  You don't understand the definition of semantics.  When you say that a deck of cards has 52 cards, but are wrong because they have more than 52 cards, that's not semantics, that's just WRONG!  Clearly wrong.  But, not only are you wrong, you will never admit when you are wrong, and I find this slightly more interesting than the fact that you are wrong.


The old Sole-Bait-&-Switch. You never said anything about card games.  You were speaking of a deck of cards. But, when you are clearly wrong you try oh-so hard to change the narrative.  Foolishly and ineptly try to change the narrative.  Such a nonsense thing like getting the number of cards wrong in a deck of playing cards, most normal people would say something like "Oh snap, I forgot about those extra cards - got me, card counting nazi!"

 
 

I have done the argument about 54 cards in a new deck for many decades. But, I also work within the 4 suits of 13 cards each. The whole deck vs the whole set of suits within.

Whole human species with 5 ancestral lineages within each having 5 generation gaps 24/7 never same reproductions again each adapting in series parallel time inhabiting space now.

Please keep insisting that isn't true and self evident to each brain proportionately alive choosing to pretend nobody can prove it in a court of law.

Global religions teaming with national prides led by ancestors loathing the natural time they get adapting in plain sight equally proportionately here so far.

Exceptions and exemptions by hope, faith, charity the leaderships are exempt from paying rent to stay in character cradle to grave regardless administrating social behavior contextually every generation forward cradle to grave via religion, politics, economics since dawn of civilization.

Academia, arts, economic support faith now isn't eternity, hope tomorrow is better than genetics sustained so far, and social consensus two minds are greater than each brain navigating space equally here by chromosome combination added so far. as eternally separated in the moment here regardless which longitude and latitude located.

31stArrival » 12 May 2025, 7:33 am » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 7:33 am

I have done the argument about 54 cards in a new deck for many decades. But, I also work within the 4 suits of 13 cards each. The whole deck vs the whole set of suits within.

Whole human species with 5 ancestral lineages within each having 5 generation gaps 24/7 never same reproductions again each adapting in series parallel time inhabiting space now.

Please keep insisting that isn't true and self evident to each brain proportionately alive choosing to pretend nobody can prove it in a court of law.

Well, you are clearly racist against Jokers.
 

Skans » 12 May 2025, 7:40 am » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 7:40 am

Well, you are clearly racist against Jokers.
 

why would you think that when specific games won't include them in their regulations for anyone alive playing?

Policies produce racism by defining ancestors to their genetic traits they have no control over since conceived to replace their 30 pre-existing relatives of their specific generation gap producers of siblings and cousins each of the 4 living current generations self evidently inhabiting space daily here without a vocabulary needed to say who they are other than the reproduction added to their specific ancestry, so far.

Your working philosophy is mind over matter semantics, characters demanding potential outcomes midnight to noon, noon to midnight, dawn to dusk, are better people than ancestors standing their time equally alive now, the corrupted defend the ground they conquered by power of suggesting now isn't eternity.

Now I defined 3 12 hour segments to each rotation of the planet governed by 4 event horizons 6 hours apart and 8 hour relative time logistic educating humans to ignore their brain navigating space only while adapting to the moment here factually defined as 24/7/52 regardless 365 or 366 days a calendar flowchart measuring total sum past against current events and how long each ancestor inhabited space since birth. There was never a biological missing link in life until relative time logistics created the doubt.

why is this standard operating procedure in every society divided into religions, politics, economic status, ancestral lineage, and generation gap achieved after birth, so far?

rule of law says nobody can discriminate against race, creed, color, national origin, gender identity, faith now isn't eternity, hope tomorrow is better than time got this far evolving uniquely alive daily here since conception, not annual celebrated day of birth?

Rule of law defends denying what one has been since conceived and punishes anyone that says otherwise. Catch 22 psychological class warfare and lawfare by those ignoring now is eternity creating all the rules to die for and not one defining what life does daily here as eternally separating each ancestor alive now.

ConservativeWave » 10 May 2025, 9:52 pm » wrote: ↑

10 May 2025, 9:52 pm

Was listening to Trumps comments on the negotiations... he said: 1) He WILL NOT remove tariffs while negotiations are going on, and 2)  He will REQUIRE access to Chinese markets !

The PROBLEM?  He is NEVER going to get access to Chinese markets because:   A) Xi doesn't want the Chinese people to be consumers, because he wants to have total control of his people !... B) Xi Sees the WORLD thru a Socialist prism, he will build things and sell them to the world, so they can get rich, BUR will keep the people under his heel !... and C)  IF Trump will not drop tariffs while they negotiate, there WILL BE trade (unless China will pay HUGE tariffs)... because Xi WILL NOT risk his people becoming "Westernized" !!

THAT will only change when Chinese Communism ENDS... and THAT will only happen when the "People" REBEL, and OVERTHROW Xi !

I don't see ANY other solution !!

SO, India will now take China;s place (to some extent)... because I STILL See Trump wanting to take back critical markets and technologies !  But China?  WILL ONLY be a player again if Trump CAVES.. and I DO NOT see that happening?  WHY WOULD HE?  HE'S RIGHT...

America holds ALL the CARDS!!

WHY don't Democrats SEE that? ...HA!!  WE ALL KNOW WHY... Because they don't WANT to !  THEY want to Impeach Trump, and have him STOP all these steps that "WILL MAKE America GREAT AGAIN !!"... because otherwise... THEY are TOAST !!

Just like China !!

This aged extremely poorly 

Skans » 12 May 2025, 7:30 am » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 7:30 am

Trump gets to keep a 10% tariff on China. It should be 15%, so he capitulated a little more than I thought he would.  He will likely get a deal to curtail the fentanyl-flow. Stealing technology?  Forget it, you might as well ask the Chinese to lose the slant in their eyes. Any deal will be based upon the actual trade surplus going down, which means hidden tariffs and barriers to market entry won't work for China.

What about the fact the thread title is now completely discredited?

LMAO

LowIQTrash » 12 May 2025, 8:04 am » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 8:04 am

This aged extremely poorly 

So has your reality.

LowIQTrash » 12 May 2025, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 8:05 am

What about the fact the thread title is now completely discredited?

LMAO

Yeah well, at least @ConservativeWave had the balls to go out on a limb and make a prediction.  Made for a good discussion; still does.
 

Skans » 12 May 2025, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 8:27 am

Yeah well, at least @ConservativeWave had the balls to go out on a limb and make a prediction.  Made for a good discussion; still does.

Your response gives me the “he deserves a participation trophy” vibeZ…LOL!

I made a prediction too (SPX is headed to 6500+ before an epic crash not seen in 90 yrs)…and I’m actually on track.

When do I get credit?   

 
 

Skans » 12 May 2025, 8:27 am » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 8:27 am

Yeah well, at least @ConservativeWave had the balls to go out on a limb and make a prediction.  Made for a good discussion; still does.
 

Why is it, your good discussions always leave reasonable doubt in charge of every debate between two sides a win for humanity over the other 4 degrees of separation in classic psychological class warfare working 24/7?

Skans » 12 May 2025, 7:27 am » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 7:27 am

WTF are you rambling on about this morning?

I KNEW you were lying about being old enough to remember how you felt regarding some **** in the 80s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3zbjHxVVxM