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I don't know how new this gun is, but I just saw/heard of it for the first time.  It's the GM6 Lynx 50BMG bullpup.  Basically a semi-auto, compact bullpup 50 caliber rifle.  First new gun I've seen in a long time that I really really want.  Price tag seems to be at about $15,000.  I can get a lot of **** for that kind of jack!  Doubt I'll actually spend it on another firearm.  But, I wanna! Plus, how many 50BMG rounds at $5.00/round would I actually send down range? 

Anyway, this compact little thing makes a great anti-equipment gun.  Could probably take out a plane or helicopter.   
 

Can you imagine the recoil on that monster!!!?

Skans » 12 May 2025, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 5:09 pm

I don't know how new this gun is, but I just saw/heard of it for the first time.  It's the GM6 Lynx 50BMG bullpup.  Basically a semi-auto, compact bullpup 50 caliber rifle.  First new gun I've seen in a long time that I really really want.  Price tag seems to be at about $15,000.  I can get a lot of **** for that kind of jack!  Doubt I'll actually spend it on another firearm.  But, I wanna! Plus, how many 50BMG rounds at $5.00/round would I actually send down range? 

Anyway, this compact little thing makes a great anti-equipment gun.  Could probably take out a plane or helicopter. 

Geez, makes my excitement for the Smith & Wesson 13915 M&P M2.0 Optic Ready Striker Fire 15+1 5.60" Barrel, Black Polymer Frame With Picatinny Acc. Rail, Optic Cut/Ported Armornite Slide, Manual Safety seem almost foolish...


 

ROG62 » 12 May 2025, 7:59 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 7:59 pm

Geez, makes my excitement for the Smith & Wesson 13915 M&P M2.0 Optic Ready Striker Fire 15+1 5.60" Barrel, Black Polymer Frame With Picatinny Acc. Rail, Optic Cut/Ported Armornite Slide, Manual Safety seem almost foolish...

That's actually a nice looking S&W.  Looks a little like the HK I've been oogling over for several years now....



BTW, have you actually tried one of those pistol red-dot optics?  I tried one a few months ago on a friend's gun.  In daylight, it was really difficult for me to quickly find the dot.  And, once I lost the dot, I had to maneuver the gun a lot just to see the dot again.  I could see where if you train with that optic, you could get good with it.  But, it is so different from using regular sights that I lost interest in switching to this. 
 
 

murdock » 12 May 2025, 5:18 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 5:18 pm

Can you imagine the recoil on that monster!!!?

Not anymore than the full sized, with modern tech I am sure that a shock absorber system could be engineered into the stock and/or shoulder pad.

31stArrival » 13 May 2025, 7:58 am » wrote: ↑

13 May 2025, 7:58 am

Not anymore than the full sized, with modern tech I am sure that a shock absorber system could be engineered into the stock and/or shoulder pad.

You're actually right.  The "recoil system" or shock absorber amounts to the entire barrel reciprocating upon firing a round.  The gas is ported to a "piston" in/on the barrel that causes the entire barrel assembly to recoil nearly 12 inches to eject the spent casing and chamber another round. 
 

Skans » 13 May 2025, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

13 May 2025, 8:33 am

You're actually right.  The "recoil system" or shock absorber amounts to the entire barrel reciprocating upon firing a round.  The gas is ported to a "piston" in/on the barrel that causes the entire barrel assembly to recoil nearly 12 inches to eject the spent casing and chamber another round. 
 

Thank you for that information.

Skans » 13 May 2025, 7:39 am » wrote: ↑

13 May 2025, 7:39 am

That's actually a nice looking S&W.  Looks a little like the HK I've been oogling over for several years now....



BTW, have you actually tried one of those pistol red-dot optics?  I tried one a few months ago on a friend's gun.  In daylight, it was really difficult for me to quickly find the dot.  And, once I lost the dot, I had to maneuver the gun a lot just to see the dot again.  I could see where if you train with that optic, you could get good with it.  But, it is so different from using regular sights that I lost interest in switching to this.

I have not used one...

picture this...you're strapped between pants and Calvin Kleins...you're accosted, you whip out your big 10 inch mm ripping CKs, fumble to turn on red dot optics and BOOM, yer dead...so much for tech...  
 

ROG62 » 13 May 2025, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

13 May 2025, 9:30 am

I have not used one...

picture this...you're strapped between pants and Calvin Kleins...you're accosted, you whip out your big 10 inch mm ripping CKs, fumble to turn on red dot optics and BOOM, yer dead...so much for tech...

Big guns are just for fun.  And, maybe home defense.  I actually carry a Diamondback DB9.  Ugly little 9mm, not fun to shoot, but easy to pocket-carry. I actually have to load it "weird" to make sure it operates flawlessly. 

• Chambered round - hollow-point defensive round
• 1st round in magazine - high velosity, jacketed ball ammo
• 2nd round - same, ball ammo
• 3rd, 4th and 5th - hollow point defensive rounds.

It doesn't like to feed hollow points reliably if they are the first round in the magazine.  But, hollow points feed ok so long as they aren't the 1st in the magazine. 

This is basically what I carry - looks/prints like a wallet:


 
Diamondback DB9 - the good

• Very easy to carry
• Doesn't break
• Prints like a wallet
• smooth, fairly light DAO
• Fairly inexpensive
• Doesn't rust or corrode
• Don't give a **** if it gets scratched, gouged, dented, stolen, etc.
• 9mm, not .380 or other mouse-rounds
• Easy to keep hand in pocket on your gun when pumping gas late at night

The bad 

• finicky with certain ammo, requires loading of different types of rounds
• Only holds 6 rounds
• awkward to shoot - accurate up to 20 feet.  Won't win you any competitions
• DAO - double action only - slows your shots down a bit
• Not always easy to deploy from front pocket
• Might not scare a bad guy, so you'll likely have to shoot him.

 
 Sometimes I carry my STI LS40



Its smaller than it looks - can actually be pocket carried.  I have a pocket holster for it, different from my DB9.
 
 

Skans » 13 May 2025, 9:40 am » wrote: ↑

13 May 2025, 9:40 am

Big guns are just for fun.  And, maybe home defense.  I actually carry a Diamondback DB9.  Ugly little 9mm, not fun to shoot, but easy to pocket-carry. I actually have to load it "weird" to make sure it operates flawlessly. 

• Chambered round - hollow-point defensive round
• 1st round in magazine - high velosity, jacketed ball ammo
• 2nd round - same, ball ammo
• 3rd, 4th and 5th - hollow point defensive rounds.

It doesn't like to feed hollow points reliably if they are the first round in the magazine.  But, hollow points feed ok so long as they aren't the 1st in the magazine. 

This is basically what I carry - looks/prints like a wallet:


 
Diamondback DB9 - the good

• Very easy to carry
• Doesn't break
• Prints like a wallet
• smooth, fairly light DAO
• Fairly inexpensive
• Doesn't rust or corrode
• Don't give a **** if it gets scratched, gouged, dented, stolen, etc.
• 9mm, not .380 or other mouse-rounds
• Easy to keep hand in pocket on your gun when pumping gas late at night

The bad 

• finicky with certain ammo, requires loading of different types of rounds
• Only holds 6 rounds
• awkward to shoot - accurate up to 20 feet.  Won't win you any competitions
• DAO - double action only - slows your shots down a bit
• Not always easy to deploy from front pocket
• Might not scare a bad guy, so you'll likely have to shoot him.

 
 Sometimes I carry my STI LS40



It's smaller than it looks - can actually be pocket carried.  I have a pocket holster for it, different from my DB9.

Interesting...it doesn't matter as long as it repeats...guaranteed they'll think differently once a round is hurled their way....
 

I gots me a bodyguard 380 w/ ten round mag, an S&W 9mm shield w/17 round mag, and a dessert Eagle 1911. I feel invincible! (until I try to get up and walk!)

Or just buy a Barret M82A1 for $8,100.00 like I did. That's before optics and spare mags.
Proven and reliable and range ammo from PMC is fairly cheap. Just under $4.00 a round.
And why carry an old 9mm. pea shooter for self defense that only holds 6 rounds and those are mixed at that. One JHP in the chamber then FMJ because it can't cycle JHP? Sounds like a real reliable gun. Go ahead,bet your life on that gem.
And that holster! Pretty safe with that trigger exposed like that,especially in a pocket. Quite the set up there.

ROG62 » 13 May 2025, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

13 May 2025, 9:30 am

I have not used one...

picture this...you're strapped between pants and Calvin Kleins...you're accosted, you whip out your big 10 inch mm ripping CKs, fumble to turn on red dot optics and BOOM, yer dead...so much for tech...

That's not how a decent red dot works. Motion activated, it's basically always on when it's in your hand.
Also, mine is a co-witness to the iron sights. Besides, in a self-defense as you described, who aims?
It's point and click . . . gut shot ****. Hopefully.  

Skans » 12 May 2025, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

12 May 2025, 5:09 pm

I don't know how new this gun is, but I just saw/heard of it for the first time.  It's the GM6 Lynx 50BMG bullpup.  Basically a semi-auto, compact bullpup 50 caliber rifle.  First new gun I've seen in a long time that I really really want.  Price tag seems to be at about $15,000.  I can get a lot of **** for that kind of jack!  Doubt I'll actually spend it on another firearm.  But, I wanna! Plus, how many 50BMG rounds at $5.00/round would I actually send down range? 

Anyway, this compact little thing makes a great anti-equipment gun.  Could probably take out a plane or helicopter. 

My club just voted that 50BMG is allowed at the range. Somebody apparently whined about the noise complaints.
They did an experiment with several other rounds and found a few that were louder or indistinguishable from 50BMG.
**** people... Part of it was the acronym: it is actually 50 Browning Machine Gun... Gosh, not a military round!
That's too scary.
Then they reminded the club at large what other rounds are acceptable and have been forever. Lots of military.
So, the whiners lost that stupid battle.   

Skans » 13 May 2025, 9:40 am » wrote: ↑

13 May 2025, 9:40 am

Big guns are just for fun.  And, maybe home defense.  I actually carry a Diamondback DB9.  Ugly little 9mm, not fun to shoot, but easy to pocket-carry. I actually have to load it "weird" to make sure it operates flawlessly. 

• Chambered round - hollow-point defensive round
• 1st round in magazine - high velosity, jacketed ball ammo
• 2nd round - same, ball ammo
• 3rd, 4th and 5th - hollow point defensive rounds.

It doesn't like to feed hollow points reliably if they are the first round in the magazine.  But, hollow points feed ok so long as they aren't the 1st in the magazine. 

This is basically what I carry - looks/prints like a wallet:


 
Diamondback DB9 - the good

• Very easy to carry
• Doesn't break
• Prints like a wallet
• smooth, fairly light DAO
• Fairly inexpensive
• Doesn't rust or corrode
• Don't give a **** if it gets scratched, gouged, dented, stolen, etc.
• 9mm, not .380 or other mouse-rounds
• Easy to keep hand in pocket on your gun when pumping gas late at night

The bad 

• finicky with certain ammo, requires loading of different types of rounds
• Only holds 6 rounds
• awkward to shoot - accurate up to 20 feet.  Won't win you any competitions
• DAO - double action only - slows your shots down a bit
• Not always easy to deploy from front pocket
• Might not scare a bad guy, so you'll likely have to shoot him.

Its smaller than it looks - can actually be pocket carried.  I have a pocket holster for it, different from my DB9.

Scaring a guy with a gun is not why I'd have one in my hand pointing it at him.

btw
People that have "pretty guns" should display them. I think of them a tools, not heirlooms.

DeezerShoove » 14 May 2025, 6:32 am » wrote: ↑

14 May 2025, 6:32 am

My club just voted that 50BMG is allowed at the range. Somebody apparently whined about the noise complaints.
They did an experiment with several other rounds and found a few that were louder or indistinguishable from 50BMG.
**** people... Part of it was the acronym: it is actually 50 Browning Machine Gun... Gosh, not a military round!
That's too scary.
Then they reminded the club at large what other rounds are acceptable and have been forever. Lots of military.
So, the whiners lost that stupid battle. 

I rarely see anyone shooting 50BMG.  Occasionally a bench-rest shooter. These rounds are so expensive to shoot, even reloaded rounds, that I can't see them really impacting other shooters all that much.  And, ****, its a gun range.  Everyone should be supporting everyone else's right to shoot whatever they want (unless a group of hood-rats shows up). I used to belong to a gun club/range. Machine guns were permitted, so no one bitched about "loudness". We were just glad to have a place where we could shoot rapid fire and full-auto.
 

DeezerShoove » 14 May 2025, 6:39 am » wrote: ↑

14 May 2025, 6:39 am

Scaring a guy with a gun is not why I'd have one in my hand pointing it at him.

btw
People that have "pretty guns" should display them. I think of them a tools, not heirlooms.

Based on what I carry, I'd say I'm more closely aligned to your mindset.  But, I'll admit, I have an infatuation with pretty guns. I've never carried one, but if I were ever invited to a formal event where everyone was carrying a pretty gun (BBQ gun), I have some GQ-approved, high fashion hardware - my wife wouldn't be embarrassed.
 

Skans » 14 May 2025, 7:07 am » wrote: ↑

14 May 2025, 7:07 am

Based on what I carry, I'd say I'm more closely aligned to your mindset.  But, I'll admit, I have an infatuation with pretty guns. I've never carried one, but if I were ever invited to a formal event where everyone was carrying a pretty gun (BBQ gun), I have some GQ-approved, high fashion hardware - my wife wouldn't be embarrassed.

I recently sold a never-fired 38 year old Red Label OU 12 ga.
Figured I'd just bang it up bumping it around in the safe. Got a good price and some guy that likes pretty guns will be very happy with that heirloom. I just have changed in attitude over the years. My level of appreciation has waned.
So, I like a nice looking gun. Don't get me wrong. But here's something about a perfectly functioning tool with wear marks that I grew to like more.

DeezerShoove » 14 May 2025, 7:17 am » wrote: ↑

14 May 2025, 7:17 am

I recently sold a never-fired 38 year old Red Label OU 12 ga.
Figured I'd just bang it up bumping it around in the safe. Got a good price and some guy that likes pretty guns will be very happy with that heirloom. I just have changed in attitude over the years. My level of appreciation has waned.
So, I like a nice looking gun. Don't get me wrong. But here's something about a perfectly functioning tool with wear marks that I grew to like more.

The Ruger Red Label - I almost bought one of those. I should have bought it!  Proved that Americans can make a really good quality sporting shotgun that was all business. I never quite understood why Ruger discontinued it.  You can still find these for under $1,500.  I don't know if Ruger still supports them, though. Ruger is stingy allowing others to make parts for their guns.

I have a cheap O/U that I actually like to shoot more than my nice O/U.  It's a Russian Baikal 12 gauge.  It is actually quite solid, reliable and accurate enough for my skill level.  A bit heavy and not balanced as well as a "B" O/U.  But, this way I can show up with the Baikal (LOL - a B gun, but not a B gun) and no one expects me to be a great skeet shooter. I just can't do my B-Gun justice.

 
 

DeezerShoove » 14 May 2025, 6:20 am » wrote: ↑

14 May 2025, 6:20 am

That's not how a decent red dot works. Motion activated, it's basically always on when it's in your hand.
Also, mine is a co-witness to the iron sights. Besides, in a self-defense as you described, who aims?
It's point and click . . . gut shot ****. Hopefully.

So, my days of scriptwriting are over?   

you do make a good point...shoot first, no questions needed...