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**** with the bull get the horn, lads.

Fact-checked by AI:

"Yes, Russian forces have indeed targeted ships, including some registered to NATO countries, in the Odesa region of Ukraine. Specifically, a Russian missile strike on a Panamanian-registered ship in Odesa killed eight people, according to BBC News. Additionally, a Russian attack on a grain vessel in Odesa also resulted in casualties, reported by Reuters. These attacks highlight Russia's continued efforts to disrupt maritime traffic in the Black Sea. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR6cyNc7QKs

Cannonpointer » 28 May 2025, 10:22 pm » wrote: ↑

28 May 2025, 10:22 pm

**** with the bull get the horn, lads.

Fact-checked by AI:

"Yes, Russian forces have indeed targeted ships, including some registered to NATO countries, in the Odesa region of Ukraine. Specifically, a Russian missile strike on a Panamanian-registered ship in Odesa killed eight people, according to BBC News. Additionally, a Russian attack on a grain vessel in Odesa also resulted in casualties, reported by Reuters. These attacks highlight Russia's continued efforts to disrupt maritime traffic in the Black Sea. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR6cyNc7QKs

Panama is in NATO?     
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW_GDJJ5QMM

Always remember that whatever the western media admits is maybe ten percent of the real situation on the ground.

Here is what Wiki failed to lie about. Wiki is echoing the propaganda that Odesa is mostly ethnic Coupkrainians. Wiki lies that ethnic Russians comprise only 29% of Odesa. But in their incompetence bred of corruption, they forgot to SCROLL DOWN and edit this part about the languages spoken in Odesa - oops:

Languages     Number of speakers
Ukrainian      307,196      30.41%
Russian         654,128      64.75%

If you believe that ethnic Coupkrainians are speaking Russian, bless your heart.       

Here are AI's admissions, which again is maybe ten percent of the REAL bad news for Coupkraine and the west:

Yes, there are indications that some residents in Odesa, a Ukrainian city, may be challenging the authority of Kyiv, particularly in light of the ongoing war with Russia. While not a widespread or organized rebellion, there are reports of internal disagreements and tensions, fueled by the conflict and the significant impact it has on Odesa.

Here's a more detailed look:

Internal Tensions:
The Russian attacks on Odesa and its port have created internal divisions and anxieties within the city. Some residents may be questioning the effectiveness of Kyiv's leadership or the strategy being used to defend the city.

Impact of the War:
The war has led to the closure of the port, disrupting trade and affecting the city's economy, which has further fueled internal tensions.

Russian Influence:
While the majority of Odesa's population is Ukrainian, there is a significant Russian-speaking population within the city. Some individuals, particularly those with strong Russian ties or sympathies, may be challenging Kyiv's authority or siding with Russia's perspective.

Lack of a Unified Front:
The ongoing war and the internal divisions it has created have made it difficult to establish a unified front within Odesa, potentially making it harder for Kyiv to effectively govern the city.

Symbolic Challenges:
The Russian attacks on Odesa, particularly the port, have been seen as a symbolic challenge to Kyiv's control and authority over the Black Sea region.

Not an Open Rebellion:
It's important to note that this is not a widespread or organized rebellion. Rather, it's a situation of internal tensions and disagreements within the city, exacerbated by the conflict and the actions of Russia.
 

ROG62 » 28 May 2025, 10:38 pm » wrote: ↑

28 May 2025, 10:38 pm

Panama is in NATO?   

NATO nations flag their commercial ships there. Panama, Liberia, and the Marshal Islands have open registries, allowing pretty much any nation's companies, regardless of national origin or ownership, to flag their vessles there. 

Most of these ships are crewed by filipinos - not with Panamanians or with sailors from the ships' own nations. 

Ships that belong to NATO nations, hauling NATO weapons, flagged in Panama, were sent to Davey Jones locker by Russian Iskander missiles. These are not the newest toys that Russia has. These are a soviet era system - with upgrades. They ARE hypersonic, going Mach 6, maybe Mach 7. Patriots are at Mach 5, which is much slower. The west is impotent to stop Russia's missiles, and they have finally worn Putin's patience thin enough to have their commercial vessles - illegally used to haul weapons of war - sent to the briney deep. 

**** with the bull get the horn.   

And the west can't do a **** thing about it except kill some more Coupkrainians. 

Oh, wait. Of COURSE they can. They can pass an 18th sanctions package.             
 
 
 

On the off chance that any of you africanized americans want to look into this matter, be aware that Odessa is the name of that very important city, but ALSO the name of the Oblast (state) in which it is located. The propagandists like tothrow numbers around that reflect on the OBLAST, while ignoring that these numbers do not apply to the CITY.

Here's the latest information on the city itself - which is almost a reverse image of the greater Oblast:

"According to a survey conducted by the International Republican Institute in April–May 2023, 53% of the city's population has higher or incomplete higher education, 16% spoke Ukrainian at home and 80% spoke Russian.[107][non-primary source needed]"

I will be surprised if the DON'T see Crimea Redux at the end of this ****. I hope that we don't.I don't want to see a landlocked Coupkraine. They're great people, the ukies. They never deserved this US-led ****. They are learning the hard way that "being America's enemy is dangerous, while being its friend is fatal."

Cannonpointer » 28 May 2025, 10:42 pm » wrote: ↑

28 May 2025, 10:42 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW_GDJJ5QMM

Always remember that whatever the western media admits is maybe ten percent of the real situation on the ground.

Here is what Wiki failed to lie about. Wiki is echoing the propaganda that Odesa is mostly ethnic Coupkrainians. Wiki lies that ethnic Russians comprise only 29% of Odesa. But in their incompetence bred of corruption, they forgot to SCROLL DOWN and edit this part about the languages spoken in Odesa - oops:

Languages     Number of speakers
Ukrainian      307,196      30.41%
Russian         654,128      64.75%

If you believe that ethnic Coupkrainians are speaking Russian, bless your heart.       

Here are AI's admissions, which again is maybe ten percent of the REAL bad news for Coupkraine and the west:

Yes, there are indications that some residents in Odesa, a Ukrainian city, may be challenging the authority of Kyiv, particularly in light of the ongoing war with Russia. While not a widespread or organized rebellion, there are reports of internal disagreements and tensions, fueled by the conflict and the significant impact it has on Odesa.

Here's a more detailed look:

Internal Tensions:
The Russian attacks on Odesa and its port have created internal divisions and anxieties within the city. Some residents may be questioning the effectiveness of Kyiv's leadership or the strategy being used to defend the city.

Impact of the War:
The war has led to the closure of the port, disrupting trade and affecting the city's economy, which has further fueled internal tensions.

Russian Influence:
While the majority of Odesa's population is Ukrainian, there is a significant Russian-speaking population within the city. Some individuals, particularly those with strong Russian ties or sympathies, may be challenging Kyiv's authority or siding with Russia's perspective.

Lack of a Unified Front:
The ongoing war and the internal divisions it has created have made it difficult to establish a unified front within Odesa, potentially making it harder for Kyiv to effectively govern the city.

Symbolic Challenges:
The Russian attacks on Odesa, particularly the port, have been seen as a symbolic challenge to Kyiv's control and authority over the Black Sea region.

Not an Open Rebellion:
It's important to note that this is not a widespread or organized rebellion. Rather, it's a situation of internal tensions and disagreements within the city, exacerbated by the conflict and the actions of Russia.

Wiki is related to The Onion.

Amazing that Russia knew what was on those ships.....  
 

Cannonpointer » 28 May 2025, 10:22 pm » wrote: ↑

28 May 2025, 10:22 pm

**** with the bull get the horn, lads.

Fact-checked by AI:

"Yes, Russian forces have indeed targeted ships, including some registered to NATO countries, in the Odesa region of Ukraine. Specifically, a Russian missile strike on a Panamanian-registered ship in Odesa killed eight people, according to BBC News. Additionally, a Russian attack on a grain vessel in Odesa also resulted in casualties, reported by Reuters. These attacks highlight Russia's continued efforts to disrupt maritime traffic in the Black Sea. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR6cyNc7QKs

WW Three will be Free!

Cannonpointer » 28 May 2025, 10:42 pm » wrote: ↑

28 May 2025, 10:42 pm

If you believe that ethnic Coupkrainians are speaking Russian, bless your heart.
 

My cousins grew up in East Germany under STASI / Russian rule...

in school, Russian was the language of (no) choice that was taught as part of their education...IOW, foreign language class consisted of a choice between Russian, Russian or Russian...

*GHETTOBLASTER » 29 May 2025, 12:36 am » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 12:36 am

Amazing that Russia knew what was on those ships.....

agreed....  
 

Cannonpointer » 28 May 2025, 10:42 pm » wrote: ↑

28 May 2025, 10:42 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW_GDJJ5QMM

Always remember that whatever the western media admits is maybe ten percent of the real situation on the ground.

Here is what Wiki failed to lie about. Wiki is echoing the propaganda that Odesa is mostly ethnic Coupkrainians. Wiki lies that ethnic Russians comprise only 29% of Odesa. But in their incompetence bred of corruption, they forgot to SCROLL DOWN and edit this part about the languages spoken in Odesa - oops:

Languages     Number of speakers
Ukrainian      307,196      30.41%
Russian         654,128      64.75%

If you believe that ethnic Coupkrainians are speaking Russian, bless your heart.       

Here are AI's admissions, which again is maybe ten percent of the REAL bad news for Coupkraine and the west:

Yes, there are indications that some residents in Odesa, a Ukrainian city, may be challenging the authority of Kyiv, particularly in light of the ongoing war with Russia. While not a widespread or organized rebellion, there are reports of internal disagreements and tensions, fueled by the conflict and the significant impact it has on Odesa.

Here's a more detailed look:

Internal Tensions:
The Russian attacks on Odesa and its port have created internal divisions and anxieties within the city. Some residents may be questioning the effectiveness of Kyiv's leadership or the strategy being used to defend the city.

Impact of the War:
The war has led to the closure of the port, disrupting trade and affecting the city's economy, which has further fueled internal tensions.

Russian Influence:
While the majority of Odesa's population is Ukrainian, there is a significant Russian-speaking population within the city. Some individuals, particularly those with strong Russian ties or sympathies, may be challenging Kyiv's authority or siding with Russia's perspective.

Lack of a Unified Front:
The ongoing war and the internal divisions it has created have made it difficult to establish a unified front within Odesa, potentially making it harder for Kyiv to effectively govern the city.

Symbolic Challenges:
The Russian attacks on Odesa, particularly the port, have been seen as a symbolic challenge to Kyiv's control and authority over the Black Sea region.

Not an Open Rebellion:
It's important to note that this is not a widespread or organized rebellion. Rather, it's a situation of internal tensions and disagreements within the city, exacerbated by the conflict and the actions of Russia.

English-speaking people aren't necessarily English.
Besides, 7 decades of "occupation" by the USSR is bound to leave a bit of residue.

Jus' sayin' . . . details can be spun. I trust nothing about that mess...

Cannonpointer » 28 May 2025, 10:22 pm » wrote: ↑

28 May 2025, 10:22 pm

**** with the bull get the horn, lads.

Fact-checked by AI:

"Yes, Russian forces have indeed targeted ships, including some registered to NATO countries, in the Odesa region of Ukraine. Specifically, a Russian missile strike on a Panamanian-registered ship in Odesa killed eight people, according to BBC News. Additionally, a Russian attack on a grain vessel in Odesa also resulted in casualties, reported by Reuters. These attacks highlight Russia's continued efforts to disrupt maritime traffic in the Black Sea. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR6cyNc7QKs

Not any of them American ships.  LOL.  Commies killing commies.  How is this war bad for the US?  The next time Germany and Russia get into it, I'm just hoping the US grabs a bag of popcorn and watches the show. The one good thing coming out of such a war, would be all of the beautiful widows looking for their sugar-ticket to America. 
 

JohnnyYou » 29 May 2025, 4:36 am » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 4:36 am

WW Three will be Free!

You girls are going to find that it's hard to fight a war in **** pumps and rouge. 
 

ROG62 » 29 May 2025, 5:54 am » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 5:54 am

My cousins grew up in East Germany under STASI / Russian rule...

in school, Russian was the language of (no) choice that was taught as part of their education...IOW, foreign language class consisted of a choice between Russian, Russian or Russian...

Yeah, I doubt the USSR had much patience with occupied Germany. I suppose it's possible that 35 years out, Soviet-influenced linguistic habits linger in Coupkraine. POSSIBLE. 

But I'll tell ya what I WILL do for ya. I'll put a dollar on the table against just a bite of your donut that none of your cousin's descendants are speaking Russian today. 
 

DeezerShoove » 29 May 2025, 6:50 am » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 6:50 am

English-speaking people aren't necessarily English.
Besides, 7 decades of "occupation" by the USSR is bound to leave a bit of residue.

Jus' sayin' . . . details can be spun. I trust nothing about that mess...

Yeah, ole rog brought that to my attention, too. Might be right. But the linguistic bullying has only run one way for the past couple of generations. I don't know why people who don't like Russians and have a memory of being dominated by Russia would be speaking Russian in their own homes...

Skans » 29 May 2025, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 7:15 am

Not any of them American ships. 

No?

Panama flags 50 ships for every one ship registered here. Then there are Liberia and Marshall Islands flagging 30 to one, respectively. You didn't know this? Or you were hoping to hide behind other folks' ignorance? Those ships - 110 to 1 flagged by foreign countries? We don't GIVE them those ships.

You didn't know that? You thought FLAGGING in Panama meant you belonged to Panama? Well aren't you special.

NATO is America's bitch.

Anything carrying NATO weapons is an American ship THAT day, if it's flagged in **** Russia. And it's on the bottom of the ocean, boy. Put there by Vlad the Impaler. Walk it off.

Skans » 29 May 2025, 7:15 am » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 7:15 am

How is this war bad for the US? 

Losing it - and it is lost - humiliated the USA. It signalled to the world that USA dominance is yesterday's headline.

The USA fought the war through a proxy and through financial terrorism. This is how the USA has fought dozens of wars - successfully.

Against towel heads, riff raff, and assorted midget countries. The whole world saw that **** fail against Russia - and now they are all hastening to jump on board the de-dollar express.

I get that you THINK that won't hurt, bless your heart. But it will.

Cannonpointer » 29 May 2025, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 12:04 pm

No?

Yeah, NO.  First, no military ships belonging to the United States would EVER be flagged under a different nation, like Panama. Private ships, maybe.  U.S. Naval vessels - never.

Second, NATO warships remain flagged under their national command.  German ships are flagged for Germany.  American ships flagged with the red-white-^-blue. These warships might also fly a NATO flag, but they will still be officially flagged U.S.A. 

So, back to you, Blowhard (I’ll sing ye a song o’ the fish o’ the sea, – timme way, hay, blow thar man down!).  Show me one American military ship that was sunk by Mammy-Russia yesterday.  Flagged American.  Not some Panamanian shrimping boat.  Not a Japanese whaler.  A genuine American Military Naval Vessel.  Waiting............................  

Skans » 29 May 2025, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 12:19 pm

Yeah, NO.  First, no military ships belonging to the United States would EVER be flagged under a different nation, like Panama. Private ships, maybe.  U.S. Naval vessels - never.

Gosh, really? Heck hoodathunkit.

The post you answered said nothing about military vessels.

Skans » 29 May 2025, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 12:19 pm

Second, NATO warships

No war ships - just ***-country ships, USED for war. If you throw a dart at a globe and it lands on a country where dick sucking is perfectly acceptable, they were probably invovled. But NOT with war ships - they don't have the balls. Please try really hard to comprehend that, so you dfon't keep going down that hole.

Maybe re-read the OP? That could bring clarity.

Skans » 29 May 2025, 12:19 pm » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 12:19 pm

So, back to you, Blowhard (I’ll sing ye a song o’ the fish o’ the sea, – timme way, hay, blow thar man down!).  Show me one American military ship that was sunk by Mammy-Russia yesterday.  Flagged American.  Not some Panamanian shrimping boat.  Not a Japanese whaler.  A genuine American Military Naval Vessel.  Waiting............................

Keep waiting, child. USA doesn't have the sac to go into the port of Odesa and try that **** flying any but false colors.

Still at the bottom, son. You're still losing to Vlad. And you're still a secret fanclub member of the gay/tranny alliance. You wanna pretend to be some klind of bisexual fence sitter with no dog in the fight - but look at those teeth gnash. Your a tranny supportimng little neocon.
 

Cannonpointer » 29 May 2025, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 1:36 pm

Gosh, really? Heck hoodathunkit.

The post you answered said nothing about military vessels.

No war ships - just ***-country ships, USED for war. If you throw a dart at a globe and it lands on a country where dick sucking is perfectly acceptable, they were probably invovled. But NOT with war ships - they don't have the balls. Please try really hard to comprehend that, so you dfon't keep going down that hole.

Maybe re-read the OP? That could bring clarity.

Keep waiting, child. USA doesn't have the sac to go into the port of Odesa and try that **** flying any but false colors.

Still at the bottom, son. You're still losing to Vlad. And you're still a secret fanclub member of the gay/tranny alliance. You wanna pretend to be some klind of bisexual fence sitter with no dog in the fight - but look at those teeth gnash. Your a tranny supportimng little neocon.

........  I see, you've got nothing.

"With the head o’ the codfish he made a fine pipe,The sprat then he salted, but ’twas only a bite.The breeze it blew merrily sailed he, But what an’ ol’ bastard that Cannonpointer must be!"
 
 

Skans » 29 May 2025, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑

29 May 2025, 1:39 pm

........  I see, you've got nothing.

"With the head o’ the codfish he made a fine pipe,The sprat then he salted, but ’twas only a bite.The breeze it blew merrily sailed he, But what an’ ol’ bastard that Cannonpointer must be!"

Sending NATO flagged vessels to the briny deep is "nothing"?

Exactly. You're learning, trans-national.

And you'd better keep it that way, or get more of the same, sissy-country boy.