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ROG62 » Today, 6:16 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:16 am

Be careful what you wish for...

Revelation 8:7“

The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.”

Let me be clear - I do not wish for any of this. But, it is what Russia could do if their assholes get too exposed. I'm not out to mess with the Angels. I'm just an ant, minding my own business, humbly doing what ants do.
 

ROG62 » Today, 6:19 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:19 am

Ukraine is Putin's Cuban missile crisis...and I don't blame him a bit...

He's handling it about as well as we handled the Bay of Pigs......perhaps even worse. 
 
 

Blackvegetable » Today, 6:22 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:22 am

Sucks that Gang Grifty is betraying them.

The policy that Ukraine can NOT attack into Russia was a LONG STANDING policy, initiated during the Biden Administration...

THERE you IDIOT Democrats go... accusing Trump of what JOE BIDEN did... but which Trump reversed !

I read an article recently about the Liberal Democrat PROJECTION (ACCUSING others of doing what THEY are GUILTY OF!!)... It is a tactic that the Democrats ahe used fo YEARS... but, it's a tactic that has been EXPOSED, and the HYPOCRITE Democrats are NOW paying for... In LOST ELECTIONS, in NEGATIVE OPINION POLLS, and and a VERY BLEAK FUTURE !!

ConservativeWave » 49 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

49 minutes ago

The policy that Ukraine can NOT attack into Russia was a LONG STANDING policy, initiated during the Biden Administration...

THERE you IDIOT Democrats go... accusing Trump of what JOE BIDEN did... but which Trump reversed !

I read an article recently about Liberal Democrat PROJECTION (i.e. ACCUSING others of doing what THEY are ACTUALLY and TOTALLY GUILTY OF!!)... It is a tactic that the Democrats have used for YEARS... but, it's ALSO a tactic that has been EXPOSED, and the HYPOCRITE Democrats are NOW paying for NOW... In LOST ELECTIONS, in NEGATIVE OPINION POLLS, and and a VERY BLEAK FUTURE !!

As far as Ukraine goes... I WONDER how much of the public spat between Zelenski and Trump... is JUST an attempt by Trump to create some "space" between the the "Primary Combatants", and an "Impartial Negotiator"... STOP and THINK about it... If is doesn't work, then it doesn't work... BUT, it was STILL a good try !!

No, you brainless ****....they could not do so with the aid of US weapons.


 

Blackvegetable » 21 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

21 minutes ago

No, you brainless ****....they could not do so with the aid of US weapons.

HA!!  WELL, ACTUALLY we're BOTH wrong...

I've recently read a number of articles that indicate Ukraine may actually had been given the green light to strike inside of Russia, with American weapons, going back as far as March 2024... BUT, what Ukraine did was NOT using American arms... AND... IT WAS A BRILLIANT attack using their OWN Special Forces, MAYBE a little Western help with intelligence, BUT their OWN technology, their OWN people, and their OWN BRAIN POWER... and it was DEVASTATING for Russia..

If Russia is smart... they will end this war... or SOON, they won't have a military !!

YOU IDIOT BASTARD !!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukra ... rcna154794

ConservativeWave » 8 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

8 minutes ago

HA!!  WELL, ACTUALLY we're BOTH wrong...

I've recently read a number of articles that indicate Ukraine may actually had been given the green light to strike inside of Russia, with American weapons, going back as far as March 2024... BUT, what Ukraine did was NOT using American arms... AND... IT WAS A BRILLIANT attack using their OWN Special Forces, MAYBE a little Western help with intelligence, BUT their OWN technology, their OWN people, and their OWN BRAIN POWER... and it was DEVASTATING for Russia..

If Russia is smart... they will end this war... or SOON, they won't have a military !!

YOU IDIOT BASTARD !!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukra ... rcna154794

Though hugely symbolic and welcomed by Ukraine, the decision only applies to some weapons supplied by the United States, and only in one area: the northeastern Kharkiv region where Russia launched a sweeping cross-border assault three weeks ago, the U.S. officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity. 


Ukraine will be allowed to use certain types of weapons to strike Russian forces preparing to attack just over the border, a U.S. official told NBC News. But Ukraine will still be prohibited from using longer range weapons — such as the much vaunted, long-range ATACMS — to strike deeper into Russia.
 

Blackvegetable » 41 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

41 minutes ago

Though hugely symbolic and welcomed by Ukraine, the decision only applies to some weapons supplied by the United States, and only in one area: the northeastern Kharkiv region where Russia launched a sweeping cross-border assault three weeks ago, the U.S. officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity. 

Ukraine will be allowed to use certain types of weapons to strike Russian forces preparing to attack just over the border, a U.S. official told NBC News. But Ukraine will still be prohibited from using longer range weapons — such as the much vaunted, long-range ATACMS — to strike deeper into Russia.

Well, what the Ukrainians showed the other day, is that they don't necessarily NEED American weapons... BUT, YOU need to be aware and understand, that BECAUSE Trump is trying to be an "impartial negotiator" in seeking a peace agreement and ending this war... America can't be doing that, and escalating the war at the same time... That is why Trump NEEDED to make some distance between NATO and the U.S.A. (and the tariff/trade issue was also probably a factor)... and distance itself from the conflict.

HOWEVER, NATO can, and IS, continuing the pipeline of weapons and intelligence to Ukraine... and I'm CERTAIN that Ukraine couldn't have done what they did without western intelligence... even if western weapons were not used.  NEVERTHELESS, it is a level of ingenuity, and bravado, by Ukraine that should terrify Russia !

ConservativeWave » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

12 minutes ago

Well, what the Ukrainians showed the other day, is that they don't necessarily NEED American weapons... BUT, YOU need to be aware and understand, that BECAUSE Trump is trying to be an "impartial negotiator" in seeking a peace agreement and ending this war... America can't be doing that, and escalating the war at the same time... That is why Trump NEEDED to make some distance between NATO and the U.S.A. (and the tariff/trade issue was also probably a factor)... and distance itself from the conflict.

HOWEVER, NATO can, and IS, continuing the pipeline of weapons and intelligence to Ukraine... and I'm CERTAIN that Ukraine couldn't have done what they did without western intelligence... even if western weapons were not used.  NEVERTHELESS, it is a level of ingenuity, and bravado, by Ukraine that should terrify Russia !

Stop.


You're an idiot.

 

Skans » Today, 7:27 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:27 am

He's handling it about as well as we handled the Bay of Pigs......perhaps even worse.

perhaps...but guaranteed if he didn't do this, he'd be looking at nukes at the border...

Skans » Today, 7:26 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:26 am

Let me be clear - I do not wish for any of this. But, it is what Russia could do if their assholes get too exposed. I'm not out to mess with the Angels. I'm just an ant, minding my own business, humbly doing what ants do.

we are all ants in the big picture...just keep an eye out for rogue magnifying glasses on sunny days....
 
 

ROG62 » 44 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

44 minutes ago

perhaps...but guaranteed if he didn't do this, he'd be looking at nukes at the border...

Who was going to put nukes at Putin's border?  USA?  No.  Ukraine?  No. Germany? Doubtful. 
 

ROG62 » 58 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

58 minutes ago

we are all ants in the big picture...just keep an eye out for rogue magnifying glasses on sunny days....

   
 

Skans » 32 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

32 minutes ago

Who was going to put nukes at Putin's border?  USA?  No.  Ukraine?  No. Germany? Doubtful.

NATO...

Blackvegetable » Today, 10:21 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:21 am

Stop.

You're an idiot.

HA!!

SPOKEN like a TRUE RETARD...and Liberal !!

ROG62 » Today, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:31 am

we are all ants in the big picture...just keep an eye out for rogue magnifying glasses on sunny days....

You know what... BOTH Putin and Xi seem to be having a VERY BAD time of it lately... since Trump was elected...

1)  XI screwed up and tried to Fight Trump on the Tariffs wars... SO, he thought he would "SHOW US" and raised Chinese Tariffs on American products... EXCEPT, THAT was such a tiny amount it meant NOTHING to America... BUT, the 145% tariffs Trump put on China essentially SHUT DOWN the Chinese exports & economy, got millions of Chinese fired, and CRASHED the Chinese economy, until THEY came CRAWLING BACK to make a trade deal.. which they are now trying to CHEAT on... and which Trump is ready to SLAP THEM BACK on it... again !  Xi hasn't been seen for WEEKS now, and it looks like the China elites might be shopping around for a NEW Leader... (GOOD LUCK)... and

2)  Putin dismissed Trumps efforts to broker a peace between Russia and Ukraine... after his "3 day "Special operation" turned into a 4 year CLUSTER FVUCK... and 1 million Russian soldiers were killed, BILLIONS in munitions and equipment WASTED, and Russian pride in their military power largely EXPOSED as a FAKE... EVEN after Trump and America backed away from Ukraine, to act as a more objective arbiter, and HELP them to make the right decision and make peace... Russia & Putin got UP-ITY and acted as if he was stringing Trump along... THEN, Ukraine launched TWO DAYS of HELL on Russia, Destroying DOZENS of Russia's IRREPLACEABLE strategic nuclear bombers, Nuclear Submarines... totaling BILLIONS of $$$ of equipment... that NOW, is almost PRICELESS for Russia, because they HAVE NO WAY of REBUILDING that Equipment... Putin has now been MISSING for a couple of DAYS... as RUMORS are swirling that HE may be on his way OUT ALSO !!

It's FUNNY how when TRUMP starts to get tough with countries... BAD things happen to them... I wonder if Iran will get the picture?... or will they WAIT? ...until THEY are blasted back to the stone age also ???