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I wouldn’t call myself a Civil War buff, but it’s the era of U.S. history I enjoy reading about most. Right now, I’m working through a personal project: reading the biographies of the key generals on both sides. I started with Grant, moved on to Robert E. Lee, and plan to continue with Sherman, Stonewall Jackson, and others until I’ve covered them all.
The war is full of unusual moments — almost eerie — that make you wonder if there was something more at play. One that stands out is the death of Stonewall Jackson. He was Lee’s brilliant right hand, a relentless and creative tactician the Union could never quite counter. But one night, while scouting, he was mistaken for an enemy soldier and shot by his own men. He later died from his wounds.
 What’s striking is that Jackson wasn’t stopped by Union strategy, but by a tragic accident. And here’s the kicker: many historians believe that if Jackson had lived, the South might have won at Gettysburg — one of the most decisive battles of the war. If that’s true, a single moment of misfire may have changed the entire course of American history.

Vegas » 07 Jun 2025, 8:16 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2025, 8:16 pm

I wouldn’t call myself a Civil War buff, but it’s the era of U.S. history I enjoy reading about most. Right now, I’m working through a personal project: reading the biographies of the key generals on both sides. I started with Grant, moved on to Robert E. Lee, and plan to continue with Sherman, Stonewall Jackson, and others until I’ve covered them all.
The war is full of unusual moments — almost eerie — that make you wonder if there was something more at play. One that stands out is the death of Stonewall Jackson. He was Lee’s brilliant right hand, a relentless and creative tactician the Union could never quite counter. But one night, while scouting, he was mistaken for an enemy soldier and shot by his own men. He later died from his wounds.
 What’s striking is that Jackson wasn’t stopped by Union strategy, but by a tragic accident. And here’s the kicker: many historians believe that if Jackson had lived, the South might have won at Gettysburg — one of the most decisive battles of the war. If that’s true, a single moment of misfire may have changed the entire course of American history.

I found Blood On The Moon interesting.

Vegas » 07 Jun 2025, 8:16 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2025, 8:16 pm

I wouldn’t call myself a Civil War buff, but it’s the era of U.S. history I enjoy reading about most. Right now, I’m working through a personal project: reading the biographies of the key generals on both sides. I started with Grant, moved on to Robert E. Lee, and plan to continue with Sherman, Stonewall Jackson, and others until I’ve covered them all.
The war is full of unusual moments — almost eerie — that make you wonder if there was something more at play. One that stands out is the death of Stonewall Jackson. He was Lee’s brilliant right hand, a relentless and creative tactician the Union could never quite counter. But one night, while scouting, he was mistaken for an enemy soldier and shot by his own men. He later died from his wounds.
 What’s striking is that Jackson wasn’t stopped by Union strategy, but by a tragic accident. And here’s the kicker: many historians believe that if Jackson had lived, the South might have won at Gettysburg — one of the most decisive battles of the war. If that’s true, a single moment of misfire may have changed the entire course of American history.

Wait till Monday Buffy..   We could be living in one by then.

DeezerShoove » 07 Jun 2025, 10:32 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2025, 10:32 pm

I found Blood On The Moon interesting.

Mrs. Lincoln is not enjoying the current programming in Washington DC.

You think Ford's Theatre was bad?  Look out any window in America and the shyt show is in the air...
 
"Other than that Mrs. Lincoln... How did you enjoy the show?"
 

Elections are a civil war of ballots over bullets methodology. mind ideas over matter evolving in plain sight or else. Rule of law manifests a New World Order beyond the actual time adapting since displaced a replacement for previous generation gaps so far.

Vegas » 07 Jun 2025, 8:16 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Jun 2025, 8:16 pm

I wouldn’t call myself a Civil War buff, but it’s the era of U.S. history I enjoy reading about most. Right now, I’m working through a personal project: reading the biographies of the key generals on both sides. I started with Grant, moved on to Robert E. Lee, and plan to continue with Sherman, Stonewall Jackson, and others until I’ve covered them all.
The war is full of unusual moments — almost eerie — that make you wonder if there was something more at play. One that stands out is the death of Stonewall Jackson. He was Lee’s brilliant right hand, a relentless and creative tactician the Union could never quite counter. But one night, while scouting, he was mistaken for an enemy soldier and shot by his own men. He later died from his wounds.
 What’s striking is that Jackson wasn’t stopped by Union strategy, but by a tragic accident. And here’s the kicker: many historians believe that if Jackson had lived, the South might have won at Gettysburg — one of the most decisive battles of the war. If that’s true, a single moment of misfire may have changed the entire course of American history.

The Civil War is a very interesting time in history.  Worthy of a deep dive.  I've done some deep dives into the American Revolution - I don't know why, but the pre-Revolutionary war era and Revolutionary war grab me more than the mid 1800's and the Civil War. 

That doesn't mean the Civil War is any less complex or worthy of study. It definitely is, and I really should do some deeper dives into the Civil War. If I did, I would likely uncover some hidden gems like you did. Perhaps one day I'll focus more on it. 
 
 
 

Skans » 08 Jun 2025, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑

08 Jun 2025, 8:43 am

The Civil War is a very interesting time in history.  Worthy of a deep dive.  I've done some deep dives into the American Revolution - I don't know why, but the pre-Revolutionary war era and Revolutionary war grab me more than the mid 1800's and the Civil War. 

That doesn't mean the Civil War is any less complex or worthy of study. It definitely is, and I really should do some deeper dives into the Civil War. If I did, I would likely uncover some hidden gems like you did. Perhaps one day I'll focus more on it.

It's just preference. Like you said, not one era is any more important. What drew me into the civil war is how families would fight against families. U.S. Grant, the Northern commander of the army, was married to a Southern lady whose father was a slaveholder. She had no issue with slavery until the war drew closer. Grant was charged with the command to burn the fields of where her father lived after they won a battle. This was his father-in-law. Likewise, Robert E Lee had a sister who lived in the North. He had to battle the army that was protecting her. It's just surreal. 

Vegas » 08 Jun 2025, 9:44 am » wrote: ↑

08 Jun 2025, 9:44 am

It's just preference. Like you said, not one era is any more important. What drew me into the civil war is how families would fight against families. U.S. Grant, the Northern commander of the army, was married to a Southern lady whose father was a slaveholder. She had no issue with slavery until the war drew closer. Grant was charged with the command to burn the fields of where her father lived after they won a battle. This was his father-in-law. Likewise, Robert E Lee had a sister who lived in the North. He had to battle the army that was protecting her. It's just surreal.

I actually find this kind of thing, families fighting families a little depressing.  Especially over Slavery.  Slavery should have been ended long before the South took it to an industrial level, and the slaves deported back to Africa. I doubt they knew the disaster they were creating with their slaves.  Some part of me doubts whether they would have cared.
 
 

Skans » 09 Jun 2025, 5:49 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2025, 5:49 am

I actually find this kind of thing, families fighting families a little depressing.  Especially over Slavery.  Slavery should have been ended long before the South took it to an industrial level, and the slaves deported back to Africa. I doubt they knew the disaster they were creating with their slaves.  Some part of me doubts whether they would have cared.
 
 

You don't, why should everyone else. Equal opportunity to become 1 of 2 parents isn't the same thing as equal equity outcomes cradle to grave where chain of command gets exempted from those selected to govern tomorrow dawn to dusk every rotation legal tomorrows happen international dateline to Greenwich prime meridian every rotation pf the planet 365.2422 days a revolution life never stays same reproductions twice.

Gee it is Gospel the "chosen people" inherit the earth. guess why democracies with ballots fail every time as much as dictatorships with brute force do?

History records each rotation by clock and calendar which of 7 days a week are going forward midnight to noon and noon to midnight each rotation arriving next now dawn to dusk 8 seasonal changes of 4 seasons a year with two solstices and 2 equinoxes each revolution.

Context over content created the illusion of missing links to genetic outcomes so far. Chromosomes change population living eternally separated by the moment occupying space now.

31stArrival » 09 Jun 2025, 6:25 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2025, 6:25 am

You don't, why should everyone else. Equal opportunity to become 1 of 2 parents isn't the same thing as equal equity outcomes cradle to grave where chain of command gets exempted from those selected to govern tomorrow dawn to dusk every rotation legal tomorrows happen international dateline to Greenwich prime meridian every rotation pf the planet 365.2422 days a revolution life never stays same reproductions twice.

Gee it is Gospel the "chosen people" inherit the earth. guess why democracies with ballots fail every time as much as dictatorships with brute force do?

History records each rotation by clock and calendar which of 7 days a week are going forward midnight to noon and noon to midnight each rotation arriving next now dawn to dusk 8 seasonal changes of 4 seasons a year with two solstices and 2 equinoxes each revolution.

Context over content created the illusion of missing links to genetic outcomes so far. Chromosomes change population living eternally separated by the moment occupying space now.

I am the chosen person to inherit everything you have, when you depart from this earth.  Make sure your kin know that I'll be coming for it!
 

Skans » 09 Jun 2025, 5:49 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2025, 5:49 am

I actually find this kind of thing, families fighting families a little depressing.  Especially over Slavery.  Slavery should have been ended long before the South took it to an industrial level, and the slaves deported back to Africa. I doubt they knew the disaster they were creating with their slaves.  Some part of me doubts whether they would have cared.

It would have naturally ended when tech took over. At the time, they didn't have machinery to toil the farms. 

Skans » 09 Jun 2025, 7:23 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2025, 7:23 am

I am the chosen person to inherit everything you have, when you depart from this earth.  Make sure your kin know that I'll be coming for it!
 

They have always been aware everyone saving humanity won't tolerate an honest sole. Thank you for validating that again.

31stArrival » 09 Jun 2025, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑

09 Jun 2025, 11:11 am

They have always been aware everyone saving humanity won't tolerate an honest sole. Thank you for validating that again.

You're welcome.  Now, send me an inventory so your kids won't be shocked at my arrival.