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Zeets2 » 20 Jun 2025, 12:46 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 12:46 pm

No, I consider it wasteful spending when an audit has revealed that they have 12,000 applications from dead individuals or from those who are ineligible for the program!

If you DON'T want to see more efficiency in the federal government, you're clearly in a very minute minority of the country!
This is EXACTLY the kind of wasteful **** that Americans voted for in a landslide last November!

Do you need the quotes by both Obama and Biden when they claimed to want exactly the same thing?
But suddenly Trump is the evil one when he follows through with it, huh?
Pure liberal ignorance, and we'd expect nothing less from you!

effiency means less paper work not more paper work, this bill is bogged down with tons of paper work.

jerrab » 20 Jun 2025, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 12:29 pm

you consider helping poor americans with food and medical care wasteful spending.

Yes

Zeets2 » 20 Jun 2025, 12:46 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 12:46 pm

No, I consider it wasteful spending when an audit has revealed that they have 12,000 applications from dead individuals or from those who are ineligible for the program!

If you DON'T want to see more efficiency in the federal government, you're clearly in a very minute minority of the country!
This is EXACTLY the kind of wasteful **** that Americans voted for in a landslide last November!

Do you need the quotes by both Obama and Biden when they claimed to want exactly the same thing?
But suddenly Trump is the evil one when he follows through with it, huh?
Pure liberal ignorance, and we'd expect nothing less from you!

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• Increased Eligibility Checks: The proposed changes also include more frequent eligibility redeterminations for Medicaid recipients, shifting from an annual check to every six months.
• Additional Verifications: Enrollees would also need to provide extra documentation for income and residency.
• Verification of Compliance: States must verify compliance with the work requirements during every eligibility decision and can conduct checks more often. 

The bill does introduce requirements for states to verify compliance with work requirements, and these checks can be done more frequently than before. The requirement to work 80 hours a month suggest s a monthly verification process for individuals subject to the work requirement. //////

more paperwork, more workers cha ching//  mo' money

jerrab » 20 Jun 2025, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 1:44 pm

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• Increased Eligibility Checks: The proposed changes also include more frequent eligibility redeterminations for Medicaid recipients, shifting from an annual check to every six months.
• Additional Verifications: Enrollees would also need to provide extra documentation for income and residency.
• Verification of Compliance: States must verify compliance with the work requirements during every eligibility decision and can conduct checks more often. 

The bill does introduce requirements for states to verify compliance with work requirements, and these checks can be done more frequently than before. The requirement to work 80 hours a month suggest s a monthly verification process for individuals subject to the work requirement. //////

more paperwork, more workers cha ching//  mo' money

this has nothing to do with dead people but verified living people.

jerrab » 20 Jun 2025, 1:44 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 1:44 pm

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• Increased Eligibility Checks: The proposed changes also include more frequent eligibility redeterminations for Medicaid recipients, shifting from an annual check to every six months.
• Additional Verifications: Enrollees would also need to provide extra documentation for income and residency.
• Verification of Compliance: States must verify compliance with the work requirements during every eligibility decision and can conduct checks more often. 

The bill does introduce requirements for states to verify compliance with work requirements, and these checks can be done more frequently than before. The requirement to work 80 hours a month suggest s a monthly verification process for individuals subject to the work requirement. //////

more paperwork, more workers cha ching//  mo' money

Why are you intentionally ignoring the waste, fraud, and inefficiency of the program?
Just come right out and state that YOU DON'T CARE IF THERE ARE 12,000 DEAD AND INELIGIBLE PEOPLE IN THE PROGRAM!  How tough is it for you to agree that this PROVES the need to cut such a wasteful program!  Can't you understand that doing so would save taxpayers billions and leave more money for those who truly need it and deserve it?

Or is that SO unimportant to you simply because you hate Trump?
 

jerrab » 20 Jun 2025, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 1:11 pm

effiency means less paper work not more paper work, this bill is bogged down with tons of paper work.

If MY office was buried in paperwork being done for 12,000 people who WERE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM OR DEAD, I would eliminate the paperwork on every one of them in about ten **** minutes!

So don't try to influence the worthiness of a program with such inefficiency by saying those staffers are needed!
They're nothing but paper pushers commanding huge salaries in nothing but Democratic "make work" jobs, AND WE BOTH KNOW IT!
 

jerrab » 20 Jun 2025, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 1:02 pm

sorry, that is not in the bill.

what is in the bill is tons of verifications which will need tons of follow ups and need more workers and departments, in order to save 20 dollars they will have to spend 50 dollars.

Tell me, genius!
HOW MUCH VERIFICATION IS NEEDED WHEN YOU HAVE A LIST OF 11,000 APPLICANTS WHO ARE **** DEAD?!?!
You just LOVE those inefficient bureaucracies, don't you Jerra?

Zeets2 » 20 Jun 2025, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 2:35 pm

Why are you intentionally ignoring the waste, fraud, and inefficiency of the program?
Just come right out and state that YOU DON'T CARE IF THERE ARE 12,000 DEAD AND INELIGIBLE PEOPLE IN THE PROGRAM!  How tough is it for you to agree that this PROVES the need to cut such a wasteful program!  Can't you understand that doing so would save taxpayers billions and leave more money for those who truly need it and deserve it?

Or is that SO unimportant to you simply because you hate Trump?

in order to apply for any program you must have  current drivers license or id, proof of address, proof of income and social security number.

Zeets2 » 20 Jun 2025, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 2:41 pm

Tell me, genius!
HOW MUCH VERIFICATION IS NEEDED WHEN YOU HAVE A LIST OF 11,000 APPLICANTS WHO ARE **** DEAD?!?!
You just LOVE those inefficient bureaucracies, don't you Jerra?

in order to apply for any program you must have  current drivers license or id, proof of address, proof of income and social security number.

Zeets2 » 20 Jun 2025, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 2:35 pm

Why are you intentionally ignoring the waste, fraud, and inefficiency of the program?
Just come right out and state that YOU DON'T CARE IF THERE ARE 12,000 DEAD AND INELIGIBLE PEOPLE IN THE PROGRAM!  How tough is it for you to agree that this PROVES the need to cut such a wasteful program!  Can't you understand that doing so would save taxpayers billions and leave more money for those who truly need it and deserve it?

Or is that SO unimportant to you simply because you hate Trump?

don't  tell me me you are worried about dead people getting medicaid.          

ConservativeWave » 15 Jun 2025, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Jun 2025, 5:54 pm

Israel and America are on the verge of a NEW AGE...

You are on the verge of downs syndrome, fruitcake. 
 

jerra b » 20 Jun 2025, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 3:47 pm

in order to apply for any program you must have  current drivers license or id, proof of address, proof of income and social security number.

That looks great in context towards how things are supposed to work, but with corruption, nothing is absolute when ancestors are not willing to ever accept absolute genetic outcomes being alive in plain sight at the same time social results twice any generation forward.

Stolen ID's used by those illegally came into this country in the western hemisphere that only has less than 15% of the global population of humans in it.

Human legal population is under 350 million and current global population is 8.2 billion. 82% live in the eastern hemisphere.

I suggest you stop intellectually typecasting me into a boxed in interpretation of tomorrow when you will not honestly explain series parallel time alive by compounding chromosomes of each ancestor specifically inhabiting space now.

31stArrival » 20 Jun 2025, 5:05 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 5:05 pm

That looks great in context towards how things are supposed to work, but with corruption, nothing is absolute when ancestors are not willing to ever accept absolute genetic outcomes being alive in plain sight at the same time social results twice any generation forward.

Stolen ID's used by those illegally came into this country in the western hemisphere that only has less than 15% of the global population of humans in it.

Human legal population is under 350 million and current global population is 8.2 billion. 82% live in the eastern hemisphere.

I suggest you stop intellectually typecasting me into a boxed in interpretation of tomorrow when you will not honestly explain series parallel time alive by compounding chromosomes of each ancestor specifically inhabiting space now.

no one would be dumb enough to use stolen cards to get gov services,

jerra b » 20 Jun 2025, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 5:57 pm

no one would be dumb enough to use stolen cards to get gov services,

You just won't stop denying what you have been since conceived. Your character role playing career as a social narrative that is destined to inherit the earth by God's will as a chosen people to be more than just average ancestors eternally separated in plain sight living at the same time separately here per cycle lived conceived to decomposed corpse in specificity of time lived or currently alive.

Follow the chromosomes, not the money. Follow the factual syllables of any language and be lost from all you been since a fertilized cell ancestrally here equally alive adapting in actual series parallel positions now.

What one was since conceived compared to whom you believe you become after birth. the missing link is you not accepting life in plain sight.

Now about personal responsibility of each brain was the evolved nucleus of their one time arrived fertilized cell their body remains same chromosome combination as ancestrally positioned daily here.

Keep denying it like your ancestry has like mine did. When you decide to navigate space in real time, every reality will demand you be silenced forever by any means possible at the same time.

The enemy of my enemies is myself for not picking a reality to die for cradle to grave as living doesn't exceed the time each individual has from original fertilized cell to decomposed corpse. Regardless which ancestral lineage or generation gap one ancestor existed or exists in now.

Rhetorical question I don't want or need the answer for. What generation gap have you entered after birth or are you still a great great grandchild that never became a biological parent? My siblings reached 1 of 16 great great grandparents while I only have 2 grandchildren under the age of 4.

Self evident series parallel evolving while eternally separated daily here. You keep trying to disprove actual time evolving with hypothetical scenarios all you want, I won't be fooled again.

jerra b » 20 Jun 2025, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 5:57 pm

no one would be dumb enough to use stolen cards to get gov services,

What about brave enough to try and fool everyone else alive with reasonable doubt used daily by every reality governing tomorrows dawn to dusk, when intellectual tomorrow only factually exists midnight to noon each rotation 7 separate names 52 weeks every year.

You still want to play 6 degrees of separation without a balance point equally timing every heart beat beating in this atmosphere now?

Cannonpointer » 20 Jun 2025, 4:07 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jun 2025, 4:07 pm

You are on the verge of downs syndrome, fruitcake.

I would say IT'S YOU who is the one who is intellectually challenged !!

Donald Trump has ONLY been in office for 5 months... YET, HE has:

1)  China over an economic barrel, where their economy is collapsing, and THEY are coming to the realization that THEY have NO SHOT in a fight against the U.S.A...  Tariffs are here to stay and will make America richer... Trump is TAKING BACK all the critical industries that China THOUGHT they had control of... Their attempts at subversion ACROSS the world are being reversed, KEY allies like Iran are being eliminated, and it looks like Xi himself is on the way OUT !!

2)  Russia being embarrassed by an X-satellite state (i.e. Ukraine), and Putin's 3 day war is stretching into year FOUR (4)... Russia ttempt to solidify it's place against NATO has resulted in NATO GROWING (adding Finland & Sweden), existing NATO states RE-ARMING AGAINST Russia (now 5% of their collective GDP), Ukraine developing their OWN technology which is "TOUCHING" Putin, THRU-OUT Russia, with 1 million Russians DEAD, and  BILLIONS of $$$ wasted, !!!   AND...

3)  Iran on the verge of COMPLETE & UTTER DEFEAT !  The ENTIRE ruling Military & Political leadership is DEAD, Irans ability to fight is being destroyed, and their Nuclear assets are NOT LONG for this world...  MUCH of it we are finding out because of "PRO Democracy Iranians" who have fought the "Theocracy" from within, and NOW are coalescing around & behind the X-"Royal Family" for leadership... WHO I have seen on the media is COMMITTING to taking over until Iran can be transitioned into a FUNCTIONING Democratic State !!

ALL THAT while America is NOT technically at WAR with ANYONE... and WITH a little luck, is making the WORLD a BETTER place... BECAUSE Donald Trump KNOWS that SAYING you are "Pro Peace", while sitting by and letting the world walk all over America...  are TWO COMPLETELY different things... and Donald Trump has done MORE for World Peace in the last 5 months, than ALL the "Democrat Presidents" of the last 50 years PUT TOGETHER !

YET...  Liberals like YOU will LIE about it, because YOU SEE that Democrat policies are being EXPOSED... as being ineffective, self destructive, and ANTI-American... and YOU accuse OTHERS of having "DOWNS SYNDROME"?   Well. IF YOU want to see someone with Downs Syndrome YOU should...

LOOK IN A MIRROR !!!!!

 

ConservativeWave » 21 Jun 2025, 8:36 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2025, 8:36 am

I would say IT'S YOU who is the one who is intellectually challenged !!

 

 Yes, yes, queer. In blue. You would say it in garbage can blue. 
 

Cannonpointer » 21 Jun 2025, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2025, 9:39 am

 Yes, yes, queer. In blue. You would say it in garbage can blue.

??? ...are YOU DRUNK ??

31stArrival » 21 Jun 2025, 7:45 am » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2025, 7:45 am

What about brave enough to try and fool everyone else alive with reasonable doubt used daily by every reality governing tomorrows dawn to dusk, when intellectual tomorrow only factually exists midnight to noon each rotation 7 separate names 52 weeks every year.

You still want to play 6 degrees of separation without a balance point equally timing every heart beat beating in this atmosphere now?

whatever. you make no sense as usual


no one would be stupid enough to use stolen id to get food stamps, medicaid etc they would be easily caught and they would get jail time and massive fines.

TRUMP LIES TO YOU WHEN HE SAYS THOUSANDS OF DEAD PEOPLE GET MEDICAID AND SNAPS

ConservativeWave » 21 Jun 2025, 12:07 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jun 2025, 12:07 pm

??? ...are YOU DRUNK ??

I am sick of israel killing all the time with trump's ok.