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Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is old. He's got cancer.  He knows he's not long for this world.  But, he has family.  A son and others he apparently could care less about.

This dumb Muslim just can't help opening his big, lying mouth.  Khamenei threatened  "Irreparable Damage if U.S. joins Israel's war".  And, when Trump called for Iran's unconditional surrender, Khamenei vowed to "stand firm" (LOL - ran from Tehran and is hiding among relatives) in destroying Israel and retaliating against the U.S. Ok, folks, Iran is already cooked. Trump is holding Israel back from destroying anything in Iran that its people can eventually use to rebuild. 

I get it.  At this point, the selfish old geezer simply has a death wish. He could care less about his country or even his own family. I feel quite certain he's going to get his death wish granted by the a Mossad Genie.  What a stupid M-F'er.  All he has to do is say "I'll leave all the other middle eastern nations alone" and, well, his own people might still decapitate him and march through the streets with his head on a pole. 

So, maybe Khamenei, as selfish as he is, is making the best of a bad situation.  Israel wants him dead and is willing to kill him quickly and humanely in a surgical strike.  America wants him dead and is willing to vaporize an entire city to kill him.  And, his own people (well, many of them) want him dead, but will kill him slowly and brutally.  

If I were him (and being a selfish old geezer) which final solution would I opt for?  I'd take death by Mossad - efficient, nearly painless and less collateral damage. 
 
 
 

How will they destroy that underground nuclear facility?

BuckNaked » 18 Jun 2025, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 8:54 am

How will they destroy that underground nuclear facility?

I'm certain that the Trump will authorize several bunker-busters to be dropped on that location.  I guess that leaves fissionable material underground.  Can be dug up down the road.  Or, if they already have nuclear bombs in that mountain, and it gets hit with several bunker-busters - it may vaporize that entire sector of Iran.
 

Skans » 18 Jun 2025, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 8:47 am

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is old. He's got cancer.  He knows he's not long for this world.  But, he has family.  A son and others he apparently could care less about.

This dumb Muslim just can't help opening his big, lying mouth.  Khamenei threatened  ‘Irreparable Damage’ if U.S. Joins War.  And, when Trump called for Iran's unconditional surrender, Khamenei vowed to "stand firm" (LOL - ran from Tehran and is hiding among relatives) in destroying Israel and retaliating against the U.S. 

I get it.  At this point, the selfish old geezer simply has a death wish.He could care less about his country or even his own family. I feel quite certain he's going to get his death wish granted by the a Mossad Genie.  What a stupid M-F'er.  All he has to do is say "I'll leave the other middle eastern nations alone" and, well, his own people might still decapitate him and march through the streets with his head on a pole. 

So, maybe Khamenei, as selfish as he is, is making the best of a bad situation.  Israel wants him dead and is willing to kill him quickly and humanely in a surgical strike.  America wants him dead and is willing to vaporize an entire city to kill him.  And, his own people (well, many of them) want him dead, but will kill him slowly and brutally.  

If I were him (and being a selfish old geezer) which final solution would I opt for?  I'd take death by Mossad - efficient, nearly painless and less collateral damage.

It's David vs Goliath
Iran takes credit for the 1000s of US Soldiers that were blown up with Copper Formed Penetrator IEDs and cell phones used as the remote trigger.
Iran could strike the USA using technology that's available at Hobby King and Harbor Freight
 

*GHETTOBLASTER » 18 Jun 2025, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:03 am

It's David vs Goliath
Iran takes credit for the 1000s of US Soldiers that were blown up with Copper Formed Penetrator IEDs and cell phones used as the remote trigger.
Iran could strike the USA using technology that's available at Hobby King and Harbor Freight

You should never use the words technology ans Harbor Freight in the same sentence.

*GHETTOBLASTER » 18 Jun 2025, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:03 am

It's David vs Goliath
Iran takes credit for the 1000s of US Soldiers that were blown up with Copper Formed Penetrator IEDs and cell phones used as the remote trigger.
Iran could strike the USA using technology that's available at Hobby King and Harbor Freight

Sure. So could anyone. Terrorism is not a strategic military strike. All that kind of thing does is piss off a bunch of murder-hornets who might not think twice about slaughtering everyone and taking their land as the spoils of war.

I would venture to say that if Bin Laden didn't attack New York, Afghanistan would be a much different place, Syria would still exist, Iraq would still be a nation, and Iran would have its hands full just dealing with Iraq.  
 
 

RebelGator » 18 Jun 2025, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:07 am

You should never use the words technology ans Harbor Freight in the same sentence.

Things Harbor Freight has that can be used in the referenced scenario:

• Lithium battery packs
• Remote triggering devices
• Welding materials
• Ammo Boxes
• diamond-encrusted cutting blades

Other can add their 2 cents to the mix. 
 

RebelGator » 18 Jun 2025, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:07 am

You should never use the words technology ans Harbor Freight in the same sentence.

Gppd morning RG.

I date back to when HF was a total joke too...but they have improved the quality of their gasoline engine driven stuff.
The Predator 212 cc engine in my HF pressure washer and electric generator is very reliable. 
Their return policy lets you try the product out at home within a certain time frame and they will honor it.
I just bought their 4 cubic foot electric   cement mixer for $414...and it's a good "Home Owner Grade" tool.

*GHETTOBLASTER » 18 Jun 2025, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:18 am

Gppd morning RG.

I date back to when HF was a total joke too...but they have improved the quality of their gasoline engine driven stuff.
The Predator 212 cc engine in my HF pressure washer and electric generator is very reliable. 
Their return policy lets you try the product out at home within a certain time frame and they will honor it.
I just bought their 4 cubic foot electric   cement mixer for $414...and it's a good "Home Owner Grade" tool.

I've been a HF fan for probably 15 years now.  Have lots of their tools. I use the **** out of them, and use them hard.  I've never broken one. 

Prices aren't what they once were, but they are still pretty decent.  Pre-tariffs, I actually put together and purchased a good set of metric and standard ratcheting wrenches off of Ali Express. People can say what they want about "Chinese Qaulity", but wrenches of this quality would cost me 3-5x as much in any store. 

If I were a professional mechanic, I'd probably own Snap-On tools, just to let my compatriots know that I am a professional.  But, for F-s sake 3 of the same chinese tool will outlast one snap-on. Snap-on is a status thing.
 

Skans » 18 Jun 2025, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:27 am

I've been a HF fan for probably 15 years now.  Have lots of their tools. I use the **** out of them, and use them hard.  I've never broken one. 

Prices aren't what they once were, but they are still pretty decent.  Pre-tariffs, I actually put together and purchased a good set of metric and standard ratcheting wrenches off of Ali Express. People can say what they want about "Chinese Qaulity", but wrenches of this quality would cost me 3-5x as much in any store. 

If I were a professional mechanic, I'd probably own Snap-On tools, just to let my compatriots know that I am a professional.  But, for F-s sake 3 of the same chinese tool will outlast one snap-on. Snap-on is a status thing.

Back in the 1970s a good quality automotive wrench  was Sears Craftsman but MAC TOOLS were somewhere in between Snap On and Craftsman and much more affordable than Snap On.
What really took the fun out of being a DIY Shade Tree Mechanic was having to own both Standard and Gay Euro *** Metric tools nowadays      

*GHETTOBLASTER » 18 Jun 2025, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:34 am

Back in the 1970s a good quality automotive wrench  was Sears Craftsman but MAC TOOLS were somewhere in between Snap On and Craftsman and much more affordable than Snap On.
What really took the fun out of being a DIY Shade Tree Mechanic was having to own both Standard and Gay Euro *** Metric tools nowadays    

I used to have some older USA Craftsman ratchets - I still have the sockets.  I broke the quarter-inch and 3/8-inch sockets. They had a lifetime warranty, so I got them replaced.  Broke them again - got rid of them. So far, I haven't broken any of my HF ratchets.  I'm a little more careful now, I suppose. 

I've seen some torture test of Snap On - no doubt, they make good tools. If I could find a good set of Snap-On ratchets, I probably would buy them. I'm not as familiar with MAC tools, though. 
 

Skans » 18 Jun 2025, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:02 am

I'm certain that the Trump will authorize several bunker-busters to be dropped on that location.  I guess that leaves fissionable material underground.  Can be dug up down the road.  Or, if they already have nuclear bombs in that mountain, and it gets hit with several bunker-busters - it may vaporize that entire sector of Iran.

Maybe they set up a concrete making plant at the site and pump concrete down into the underground hole?

Skans » 18 Jun 2025, 9:43 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:43 am

I used to have some older USA Craftsman ratchets - I still have the sockets.  I broke the quarter-inch and 3/8-inch sockets. They had a lifetime warranty, so I got them replaced.  Broke them again - got rid of them. So far, I haven't broken any of my HF ratchets.  I'm a little more careful now, I suppose. 

I've seen some torture test of Snap On - no doubt, they make good tools. If I could find a good set of Snap-On ratchets, I probably would buy them. I'm not as familiar with MAC tools, though.

MAC might be west coast only...?
Craftsman lost my business for good when they refused to replace a torque wrench. By this time I think Sears was already  struggling to stay in business.
I still use a Sears table saw and a Sears floor jack that are now 40 years old.

*GHETTOBLASTER » 18 Jun 2025, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:18 am

Gppd morning RG.

I date back to when HF was a total joke too...but they have improved the quality of their gasoline engine driven stuff.
The Predator 212 cc engine in my HF pressure washer and electric generator is very reliable. 
Their return policy lets you try the product out at home within a certain time frame and they will honor it.
I just bought their 4 cubic foot electric   cement mixer for $414...and it's a good "Home Owner Grade" tool.

I agree about the Predator engines, I own a couple generators that have worked well.
 

RebelGator » 18 Jun 2025, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:59 am

I agree about the Predator engines, I own a couple generators that have worked well.

I too have one of HF's big generators.  I think its a 12000 Watt generator.  My biggest complaint is having all of that safety **** on the outlets.  Like ground-fault **** and even circuit breakers that won't allow you to load it down too much.  I tried to run an electric pressure washer off of the generator and it kept throwing breakers. Said "F-it" and just got a gas pressure washer. 
 

Skans » 18 Jun 2025, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 9:02 am

I'm certain that the Trump will authorize several bunker-busters to be dropped on that location.  I guess that leaves fissionable material underground.  Can be dug up down the road.  Or, if they already have nuclear bombs in that mountain, and it gets hit with several bunker-busters - it may vaporize that entire sector of Iran.

Hitting a nuke with a bomb is not the same as detonating the nuke.
It'd be more like a dirty cloud like Chernobyl than anything else.

DeezerShoove » 18 Jun 2025, 10:47 am » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 10:47 am

Hitting a nuke with a bomb is not the same as detonating the nuke.
It'd be more like a dirty cloud like Chernobyl than anything else.

You would have to detonate the blasting material, primer, inside of the bomb. I would assume this is done with some sort of electrical charge. If  BBB went off just on top of such a device, would it trigger the high explosive to detonate?  I don't really know. 
 

Skans » 18 Jun 2025, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Jun 2025, 12:13 pm

You would have to detonate the blasting material, primer, inside of the bomb. I would assume this is done with some sort of electrical charge. If  BBB went off just on top of such a device, would it trigger the high explosive to detonate?  I don't really know.

Early versions were simpler.
A "soccer ball" surrounding the atomic mass. All sections of the explosives making up the "soccer ball" had to be detonated at precisely the same time to achieve critical mass and yield a chain reaction.
The other simple one was a wedge of plutonium? fired like a cannon ball into another piece of material seeking the chain reaction.

Both are tightly controlled conditions.