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Well before the fighting broke out between Israel and Iran, everyone seemed to have an opinion on the “situation” in the Middle East. And, while neither major political party – nor the American population as a whole – is a monolith, one could guess with some degree of accuracy a person’s political affiliation by their position on the issue. Stand with Israel? You’re probably a Republican, or at least something of a conservative. Support Palestine (or even Hamas)? There’s a good chance you voted for Kamala Harris and call yourself progressive.

 But one thing that long united most lawmakers and voters regardless of party affiliation was a general dislike for and distrust of the world’s number one state sponsor of terror, Iran. If there’s one statement that most Americans across the political spectrum can agree on, it’s that Iran’s support of terrorism is bad, and that the rogue state achieving nuclear capability would be even worse.

But what happens when two groups you hate go to war against each other? Worse, what happens when your presidential nemesis then takes a side? Ideological chaos, apparently.

Some prominent Democrats, like outspoken Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), expressed outrage at President Trump’s decision, demanding impeachment. Others, like Reps. Josh Gottheimer, Ritchie Torres, and Jared Moskowitz (all Democrats from New Jersey), said the world is a safer place after Operation Midnight Hammer, even if they also felt Congress should have approve the strikes first.

“No president should be allowed to unilaterally march this nation into something as consequential as war with erratic threats and no strategy,” Schumer said. He and others in his party want an immediate vote on a resolution under the War Powers Act to restrain the commander-in-chief.

 But it wasn’t that long ago that Schumer was critical of Trump’s calls for diplomacy, suggesting he was taking a much softer approach to Iran’s enrichment of uranium. “If TACO Trump is already folding on Iran, the American people need to know about it,” the New York lawmaker said on X on June 2. “No side deals.” TACO is short for “Trump Always Chickens Out,”

https://www.libertynation.com/democrats ... g-of-iran/

the handwringing must be excruciating...**** morons...
 

ROG62 » 23 Jun 2025, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2025, 8:38 am

Well before the fighting broke out between Israel and Iran, everyone seemed to have an opinion on the “situation” in the Middle East. And, while neither major political party – nor the American population as a whole – is a monolith, one could guess with some degree of accuracy a person’s political affiliation by their position on the issue. Stand with Israel? You’re probably a Republican, or at least something of a conservative. Support Palestine (or even Hamas)? There’s a good chance you voted for Kamala Harris and call yourself progressive.

 But one thing that long united most lawmakers and voters regardless of party affiliation was a general dislike for and distrust of the world’s number one state sponsor of terror, Iran. If there’s one statement that most Americans across the political spectrum can agree on, it’s that Iran’s support of terrorism is bad, and that the rogue state achieving nuclear capability would be even worse.

But what happens when two groups you hate go to war against each other? Worse, what happens when your presidential nemesis then takes a side? Ideological chaos, apparently.

Some prominent Democrats, like outspoken Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), expressed outrage at President Trump’s decision, demanding impeachment. Others, like Reps. Josh Gottheimer, Ritchie Torres, and Jared Moskowitz (all Democrats from New Jersey), said the world is a safer place after Operation Midnight Hammer, even if they also felt Congress should have approve the strikes first.

“No president should be allowed to unilaterally march this nation into something as consequential as war with erratic threats and no strategy,” Schumer said. He and others in his party want an immediate vote on a resolution under the War Powers Act to restrain the commander-in-chief.

 But it wasn’t that long ago that Schumer was critical of Trump’s calls for diplomacy, suggesting he was taking a much softer approach to Iran’s enrichment of uranium. “If TACO Trump is already folding on Iran, the American people need to know about it,” the New York lawmaker said on X on June 2. “No side deals.” TACO is short for “Trump Always Chickens Out,”

https://www.libertynation.com/democrats ... g-of-iran/

the handwringing must be excruciating...**** morons...

Editor-at-Large. James is our wordsmith extraordinaire, a legislation hound and lover of all things self-reliant and free. An author of politics and fiction (often one and the same) he homesteads in the Arkansas wilderness

Now THOSE are bona fides...

ROG62 » 23 Jun 2025, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2025, 8:38 am

Well before the fighting broke out between Israel and Iran, everyone seemed to have an opinion on the “situation” in the Middle East. And, while neither major political party – nor the American population as a whole – is a monolith, one could guess with some degree of accuracy a person’s political affiliation by their position on the issue. Stand with Israel? You’re probably a Republican, or at least something of a conservative. Support Palestine (or even Hamas)? There’s a good chance you voted for Kamala Harris and call yourself progressive.

 But one thing that long united most lawmakers and voters regardless of party affiliation was a general dislike for and distrust of the world’s number one state sponsor of terror, Iran. If there’s one statement that most Americans across the political spectrum can agree on, it’s that Iran’s support of terrorism is bad, and that the rogue state achieving nuclear capability would be even worse.

But what happens when two groups you hate go to war against each other? Worse, what happens when your presidential nemesis then takes a side? Ideological chaos, apparently.

Some prominent Democrats, like outspoken Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), expressed outrage at President Trump’s decision, demanding impeachment. Others, like Reps. Josh Gottheimer, Ritchie Torres, and Jared Moskowitz (all Democrats from New Jersey), said the world is a safer place after Operation Midnight Hammer, even if they also felt Congress should have approve the strikes first.

“No president should be allowed to unilaterally march this nation into something as consequential as war with erratic threats and no strategy,” Schumer said. He and others in his party want an immediate vote on a resolution under the War Powers Act to restrain the commander-in-chief.

 But it wasn’t that long ago that Schumer was critical of Trump’s calls for diplomacy, suggesting he was taking a much softer approach to Iran’s enrichment of uranium. “If TACO Trump is already folding on Iran, the American people need to know about it,” the New York lawmaker said on X on June 2. “No side deals.” TACO is short for “Trump Always Chickens Out,”

https://www.libertynation.com/democrats ... g-of-iran/

the handwringing must be excruciating...**** morons...

Read a bit on Archduke Ferdinand and his assassination being the flash point for World War.
Suffice to say, there were a lot of alliances and old foes, treaties and border issues, etc. at the time.
Actually quite complex and I do not by any means profess to be expert on the history.
But some nondescript Bosnian Serb 23-year-old caused a chain of events that has left a mark on the world forever.
He shot an heir-apparent. Wasn't even a king. But chaos ensued and a house of cards crumbled.

People can fret about Iran all day. In the end, is that really the current Austro-Hungary Empire?
Or are they the worst of the global sponsors of terror? Closer to one than the other.   

Iran's Main Brain says he has sleeper cells ready to go. That's partly because the world ain't on his side.
 

Blackvegetable » 23 Jun 2025, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2025, 9:45 am

Editor-at-Large. James is our wordsmith extraordinaire, a legislation hound and lover of all things self-reliant and free. An author of politics and fiction (often one and the same) he homesteads in the Arkansas wilderness

Now THOSE are bona fides...

link, babblebuzzzzzzzzzz?

ROG62 » 25 Jun 2025, 10:36 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2025, 10:36 am

link, babblebuzzzzzzzzzz?

You never looked, Ruby?

Here's their man on the econ beat


I am a full-time professional writer. Prior to my self-employment pursuits, I worked as a reporter for Digital Journal covering the politics beat and The Toronto Times reporting on the city’s entertainment scene. I currently write mostly about economics.

and yes, his name really is "Moran".
 

Blackvegetable » 25 Jun 2025, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2025, 11:41 am

Here's their man on the econ beat


I am a full-time professional writer. Prior to my self-employment pursuits, I worked as a reporter for Digital Journal covering the politics beat and The Toronto Times reporting on the city’s entertainment scene. I currently write mostly about economics.

and yes, his name really is "Moran".
 

 

Says the man that uses The Shower Cap blog as a source.  
 

*Huey » 25 Jun 2025, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2025, 11:48 am

Says the man that uses The Shower Cap blog as a source.

Tiny,

That's yet ANOTHER case that you ran from making.

And it's not whether I read him once a week, it's whether or not he qualifies as an Influencer. 

Furthermore, he hasn't paid anyone anything for lying and he's much funnier than Gutfeld.

Move you head up and down.


 

Blackvegetable » 25 Jun 2025, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2025, 12:01 pm

Tiny,

That's yet ANOTHER case that you ran from making.

And it's not whether I read him once a week, it's whether or not he qualifies as an Influencer. 

Furthermore, he hasn't paid anyone anything for lying and he's much funnier than Gutfeld.

Move you head up and down.

IYO
 

*Huey » 25 Jun 2025, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jun 2025, 12:02 pm

IYO

All facts.