Review crap before you decide- The Big Beautiful Bill

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By Vegas
3 Jul 2025 11:52 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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jerrab » 04 Jul 2025, 6:33 pm » wrote: not only does he sign starve the vets and others bill he does it on independence day,

WTF
You've got the brain of a ****  termite.
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jerra b
4 Jul 2025 10:37 pm
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ROG62 » 04 Jul 2025, 7:35 pm » wrote: you stoned or drunk?
it is from the new testament you atheist lunatic
 
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jerra b
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RebelGator » 04 Jul 2025, 9:08 pm » wrote: You've got the brain of a ****  termite.

just reporting the facts,
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jerra b
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ROG62 » 04 Jul 2025, 7:49 pm » wrote: OMG!

The Center for American Progress (CAP) is a progressive public policy research and advocacy organization founded by John Podesta, chairman of the Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign. According to their about page, “The Center for American Progress is an independent, nonpartisan policy institute that is dedicated to improving the lives of all Americans, through bold, progressive ideas, as well as strong leadership and concerted action. Our aim is not just to change the conversation but to change the country.” The Center for American Progress funded the liberal website Think Progress.

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 The Center for American Progress (CAP) is a nonprofit funded by many large donors, including the Ford Foundation, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and George Soros’ Open Society Foundations. Donations and grants fund them.

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In review, CAP’s reporting typically favors establishment progressive issues, which result in a liberal bias with report selection. There is often moderate loaded language in headlines and articles such as this: America Can Do Big Things: A Budget Plan for a Better Future. This story is appropriately sourced to the CBO and right-leaning sources such as Forbes. In general, all stories favor the left and denigrate the right. A thorough review of content for the last 2 years demonstrates appropriate sourcing of information and mixed factual content due to failed fact checks. 

Failed Fact Check Overall, we rate CAP Left Biased based on story selection that always favors the Democratic party and Mixed in reporting due to failed fact checks by IFCN fact-checkers. (5/13/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 01/05/2024) 

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jerra b
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RebelGator » 04 Jul 2025, 9:04 pm » wrote: No one is going after Medicaid, you jackass.

Watching the View has you all lathered up and stone-cold stupid.

------------------------------------------------------As a result, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that the earlier House-passed bill (with similar provisions also in the Senate-passed bill) would cause 1.3 million Medicare enrollees eligible for these programs to lose or forgo their Medicaid coverage and, therefore, be unable to access the assistance. The Center for American Progress previously estimated that Medicare enrollees eligible for two MSP programs—the Qualified Medicare Beneficiary (QMB) Program and the Specified Low-Income Medicare Beneficiary (SLMB) Program—would be hit especially hard. These programs benefit Medicare enrollees living at or just above the federal poverty level (FPL). A couple on Medicare who are eligible for but no longer able to enroll in the QMB, making a combined $21,000 per year, could see their out of pocket costs skyrocket by $8,340. A single Medicare enrollee making only $19,000 per year and eligible for SLMB could see their out of pocket costs jump by $3,300 per year if they are unable to enroll in the program as a result of the bill.Imposing new out-of-pocket c
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RebelGator » 04 Jul 2025, 9:04 pm » wrote: No one is going after Medicaid, you jackass.

Watching the View has you all lathered up and stone-cold stupid.
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All states currently have the option to impose out-of-pocket costs such as premiums and copayments on some Medicaid enrollees (and subject to specific rules). The OBBBA goes significantly further by forcing states to charge Medicaid enrollees with family incomes between 100 percent and 138 percent of the FPL—just $15,650 for a single adult—who qualify for the program based on income alone up to $35 per health care service. While cost-sharing would be capped at 5 percent of a family’s household income, that can add up to thousands of dollars per year. Consider a Medicaid expansion adult in a family of four with an income of only $33,000, effectively right above 100 percent of the FPL. That family could be on the hook for up to $1,650 in new, mandatory out-of-pocket costs. What’s more, the bill also allows providers to turn patients away who can’t afford to pay those costs. Research consistently shows that even modest increases in out-of-pocket costs create significant financial barriers for low-income people. This burden often leads to reduced use of care and poorer health outcomes.
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RebelGator » 04 Jul 2025, 9:04 pm » wrote: No one is going after Medicaid, you jackass.

Watching the View has you all lathered up and stone-cold stupid.
----------------------------------------------------------While President Donald Trump has repeatedly promised not to cut Medicare benefits, the OBBBA blocks implementation of an existing regulation that makes it easier for eligible low-income Medicare beneficiaries to enroll in Medicare Savings Programs (MSPs) that lower Medicare premiums and out-of-pocket costs. MSPs make health care accessible for Medicare enrollees, who often live on very limited incomes and few assets. Without enrolling in the programs, even modest medical bills can be unaffordable and basic access to care can slip out of reach. Blocking the regulation would prevent states from streamlining and automating enrollment into MSPs.As a result, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated that the earlier House-passed bill (with similar provisions also in the Senate-passed bill) would cause 1.3 million Medicare enrollees eligible for these programs to lose or forgo their Medicaid coverage and, therefore, be unable to access the assistance. The Center for American Progress previously estimated that Medicare enrollees eligible for two MSP programs—the Qualified Medicare Beneficiary (QMB) Program and the Specified Low-Income Medicare Beneficiary (SLMB) Program—would be hit especially hard. These programs benefit Medicare enrollees living at or just above the federal poverty level (FPL). A couple on Medicare who are eligible for but no longer able to enroll in the QMB, making a combined $21,000 per year, could see their out of pocket costs skyrocket by $8,340. A single Medicare enrollee making only $19,000 per year and eligible for SLMB could see their out of pocket costs jump by $3,300 per year if they are unable to enroll in the program as a result of the bill.
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Podesta? Gates? Soros?


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Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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jerrab » 04 Jul 2025, 10:38 pm » wrote: just reporting the facts,
Fake facts.....and you've been eating them, no wonder your brain is under nourished. 
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JohnnyYou » 04 Jul 2025, 7:50 pm » wrote: Yes you do suck as a human being
you mad bruh?
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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RebelGator » 05 Jul 2025, 5:30 am » wrote: Fake facts.....and you've been eating them, no wonder your brain is under nourished.
I want a board thank you for keeping this moron occupied for a few hours. :wave:  
 
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Very angry...  The America I grew up in is gone..  Orange guy celebrates a detention center designed to remove human rights on Independence Day.  What the Phook?

The BBB is going to hurt a lot of people.  Most of them probably MAGA supporters.  

Winning for me is helping others win.  Winning for your side is making sure someone loses.  You done screwed your own kind for your "Victory". I will vote to restore a strong pursuit of L,L and H for your people.
 
 
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michaelf
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jerrab » 04 Jul 2025, 4:18 pm » wrote: this is one big beautiful bill.

https://www.americanprogress.org/articl ... -bill-act/

got it.

don''t go to church anymore. you have proven you don't think Christ was right about feeding the hungry, your god is trump not Christ,

Feeding the hungry is a wonderful thing to do...forcing somebody else to feed them isn't so wonderful. Feed all the hungry people you want. 
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 04 Jul 2025, 8:14 pm » wrote: Howdy my friend...happy 4th to you too..!
Sounds like you have looked into the details of this bill more than I have..so there's a good chance that I am wrong  Image  
[oops I meant to say there is  a very remote possibility that I am not absolutely correct about everything that there is to know about everything]    Image

@Blackvegetable  has a lot to learn from you. He would rather die than admit that he doesn't know something or admit that he is wrong.  :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:   :rofl:  
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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jerra b
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michaelf » 05 Jul 2025, 6:31 am » wrote: Feeding the hungry is a wonderful thing to do...forcing somebody else to feed them isn't so wonderful. Feed all the hungry people you want.
oh you poor baby. how very tragic for you.

now tell me in 50 words or more how the snap program affected you personally.
 
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jerra b
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RebelGator » 05 Jul 2025, 5:30 am » wrote: Fake facts.....and you've been eating them, no wonder your brain is under nourished.

show where I posted fake facts.
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HarperLee » 04 Jul 2025, 11:16 am » wrote: I truly want to suck mainemans  :wub:  dick

Pure and simple
:LOL:  Damn Z09

:LOL:  you are a nasty bitch 
 
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Vegas » 03 Jul 2025, 7:48 pm » wrote: I see. Good point. I don't think the low income MAGA's read through this bill.  Once it begins to take affect, they are going to feel the impact. It's going to be scary.
A MAGA friend of mine is bummed 

he thought (so did I) that not tax on overtime meant no tax on all overtime 

He makes $60 an hour on overtime 

but the only money that isn’t taxed is the amount over his wage

so only $20 of the $60 will be tax free

and it expires in 2028 

better than a poke in the eye

it is a good thing 

but not the thing that he thought that he was getting 
 
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Mrkelly » 05 Jul 2025, 1:00 pm » wrote: A MAGA friend of mine is bummed 

he thought (so did I) that not tax on overtime meant no tax on all overtime 

He makes $60 an hour on overtime 

but the only money that isn’t taxed is the amount over his wage

so only $20 of the $60 will be tax free

and it expires in 2028 

better than a poke in the eye

it is a good thing 

but not the thing that he thought that he was getting

There are always those unspoken catches that are rarely, if ever at all, talked about. 
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...



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Vegas » 05 Jul 2025, 11:12 am » wrote: @Blackvegetable  has a lot to learn from you. He would rather die than admit that he doesn't know something or admit that he is wrong.  Image   Image   Image   Image
It's pretty obvious that internet forums are all that poor guy has got. Image  

Well...he's also got that photo of "Gay Trump" to help make himself feel good too...... :rofl:  
 
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