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Did somebody win or did the media stop pushing?
Used to be "hypersonic this and drone that" all day every day here. Did China finally win that one or is NATO still an organization? Maybe Ukraine is on video with Russia doing stuff of Pedo Island.  

Are ya kidding me pal.

Both sides firing drones and missles every night.

Aint no PEACE PROCESS

Need to hit Russia deep in their territory

1000's are dying every day. People with families and kids. Innocent honest people on both sides. How would you feel if it was your wife, kids or family members.

PhiloBeddo » 24 Jul 2025, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 12:27 pm

1000's are dying every day. People with families and kids. Innocent honest people on both sides. How would you feel if it was your wife, kids or family members.

Just noticed nobody is posting every hour on the hour about Ukraine and Russia. That stuff slowed down. It's like it isn't big news anymore. Why bring my family into it?

No

tRump ended it day 1

PlumHollow » 24 Jul 2025, 7:24 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 7:24 am

Did somebody win or did the media stop pushing?
Used to be "hypersonic this and drone that" all day every day here. Did China finally win that one or is NATO still an organization? Maybe Ukraine is on video with Russia doing stuff of Pedo Island.

The Russians are continuing to advance, but the rate at which they are advancing is increasing, and the rate of the increase is getting faster. 

I would not be at all surprised if tommorow the Coupkrainian military - such as it is, undersupplied and with no complete units and with half the troops being foreign mercs and the other half kidnap victims who were bullied to the front - simply folded up and quit. I will absolutely be surprised if the Coupkrainian military is east of the Dnieper by Christmas, and in supply. Morale is in the terlet.

The reason the press isn't yakking anymore is that the news is very, very different than what the west wants it to be. There is no good news at all, in any area. Nothing to hype. It's so bad that it can no longer be massaged. The Russians have encircled and are taking Pokrovsk. All of the significant prizes to date which the Coupkrainians have sacrificed massive numbers to defend-to-the-end were important stepping stones on the way to Pokrovsk.

Pokrovsk is the key to everything east of the Dnieper. Without Pokrovsk, the theater is split for Coupkraine, with the northern forces isolated from the southern and with neither able to reinforce the other. And for both, supply is critically - one could even say fatally - affected. I look for mass retreats in the next two weeks, with the Coupkrainians attempting to regroup in supply and in a defensible position.

The west bank of the Dnieper leaps to mind... and nothing else does...

Mind you, my military experience happened in the woods behind my house before I had hair down there - back when I DIDN'T identify with the nazis. But I have better sources than the fruitcakes on this board...
 

Mrkelly » 24 Jul 2025, 2:31 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 2:31 pm

No

tRump ended it day 1

It only took him 24 hours. But that's nothing. What's important to me is that I now know the whole story behind the Kennedy assasination, and we are no longer dropping bombs on other nations.

PhiloBeddo » 24 Jul 2025, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 12:27 pm

1000's are dying every day. People with families and kids. Innocent honest people on both sides. How would you feel if it was your wife, kids or family members.

Don't act like your hands don't have any of that blood on them, fruitcake. 

You are not part of the solution, pedo-philobeddo - you are part of the problem.

The mouth breathing neocon problem.
 

BuckNaked » 24 Jul 2025, 10:25 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 10:25 am

Need to hit Russia deep in their territory

You need to talk less from deep in your ***, fruit. 
 

BuckNaked » 24 Jul 2025, 10:25 am » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 10:25 am

Need to hit Russia deep in their territory

50 days Trump gave em 50 days.

In the meantime hes approved Weapons Transfers
 

TwoIfByTea » 24 Jul 2025, 6:09 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 6:09 pm

50 days Trump gave em 50 days.

In the meantime hes approved Weapons Transfers

Not one leader on earth believes trump's 50 days ****.

The "weapons transfers" trump approved included 17 Patriot Missile batteries. 

The first one might arrive inkyiv by the spring of 2026 - just in time to protect the unconditional surrender of Coupkraine. 

The green t-shirt will be gone from Coupkraine before the first old-timey Patriot Battery arrives.

Be aware, children: Patriot Missiles move at Mach 5. The Russian Iskander series move at Mach 15. Even Iran has missiles moving at Mach 7 and at Mach 13. And what's worse, even Mach 1 drones can defeat the Patriot System, because 25 2000 dollar drones can force the defenders to send up - OR NOT SEND UP, and let the drones through - two (they always send two) 4 million dollar missiles. Russia will trade 50k for 8 mil every day. But the US can't.

The United States has the best 20th century military on planet earth. But the Russians are fielding a 21st Century military. .
 

Cannonpointer » 24 Jul 2025, 6:21 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 6:21 pm

Not one leader on earth believes trump's 50 days ****.

The "weapons transfers" trump approved included 17 Patriot Missile batteries. 

The first one might arrive inkyiv by the spring of 2026 - just in time to protect the unconditional surrender of Coupkraine. 

The green t-shirt will be gone from Coupkraine before the first old-timey Patriot Battery arrives.

Be aware, children: Patriot Missiles move at Mach 5. The Russian Iskander series move at Mach 15. Even Iran has missiles moving at Mach 7 and at Mach 13. And what's worse, even Mach 1 drones can defeat the Patriot System, because 25 2000 dollar drones can force the defenders to send up - OR NOT SEND UP, and let the drones through - two (they always send two) 4 million dollar missiles. Russia will trade 50k for 8 mil every day. But the US can't.

The United States has the best 20th century military on planet earth. But the Russians are fielding a 21st Century military. .

Russians are old "Soviets".

They fight a war or "Attrition" 

Go back 2 Stailinggrad WW2 The Germans were better "Supplied" Technology too.

Russians dig in 4 the "Deep War"..
 

What killed Germany WW2 was opening "Eastern Front" and Winter.

Winter and Frostbite killed more germans than Mosin Nagant 7.62 chamber

I would also like 2 say Russians and former Eastern Soviet Republics have a sheer lack of Humaninty & Brutality not seen in "West"

May 1984 Soviet Afghanistan war.

Soviet troops rounded up the leaders into a tunnel sealed it off.

Poured gasoline chemicals into it lit a match Kaboom.
 
They stood there laughing about it too
 

TwoIfByTea » 24 Jul 2025, 6:26 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 6:26 pm

They fight a war or "Attrition"

FINALLY someone on this board says SOMETHING sensible about Coupkraine. 

Yes, the Russians are fighting - have always fought - an attrition war. But they are fighting with 21st Century strategies folded in to that old school model. Their strength is precisely the same as America's military in WWII: their industrial base. But unlike the US of WWII, the Russians have the following advantages: 

1. They are fighting from supply. They need not maintain a global supply line, which added tremendous costs in equipment, money, and manpower to the WWII US war machine;
2. The Russian government controls its MIC. In WWII, the US government had strategic control of its MIC, as well. But the MIC was feasting at the public trough, growing into a monater that would turn the tables on the government in the aftermath of the war. Less than a generation later, Ike Eisenhower would utter his famous caveat which today reads like prophecy.
3. The Russian military is more reliant on SMALL tech - cheap drones and artillery - than the US military of WWII was. The US military of WWII required historically large and historically expensive super-platforms, as its war was on the other side of the world. It was fighting massive and extremely expensive sea battles for high stakes with the Japanese in the Pacific. The Russians are fighting in their own backyard - whichis why they are fighting, and why they will never, ever accept any peace that does not conform to their unyielding red lines. 
4. The Russians have next-gen missile tech. The US is still in beta testing phase at best. And the Russians get their missiles at cost of production. The US pays cost plus outrageous profits, and in addition, the US production capacity lags significantly. What this means is the Russians will have more and better for the next 15-20 years. And by "better," I mean Mach 15 vs Mach 5. Think, rifles vs muskets, for an apt analogy. 

The Russians are fighting a puny adversary, but it's headquarters is in Germany, not Coupkraine, and the real enemy is NATO, using Coupkraine as a proxy. Russia has been destroying NATO's expensive toys almost as fast as those toys arrive on the field. M1 Bradley's have the life expectancy of a house fly in Coupkraine, and expensive Patriot Batteries are easily swamped with cheap drones - after which they are blown to smithereens. 

Denmark promised 19 of its F-16s to the green t-shirt. Netherlands pledged 24, Norway 12, and Belgium 30. No one knows how many of these 82 promised jets have been delivered three and a half years in, because that's classified. But what we DO know is that you never hear a **** word in the western press about the F-16s - and given the western press's commitment to turning every possible lemon into lemonade for Coupkraine, this tells you how useful those platforms are against the Russian machine. I grant that this could change if NATO pilots ever take to the skies against the Russians - emphasis on could. I just don't have the information to assess whether Russia's jets and pilots are better than NATO's transgendered jets and pilots.

In the summer offensive last year, NATO threw everything it had at Russia and put Russia on its back foot briefly. But before long, all of those dangerous toys were scrap and the Coupkraine army was being inched backward. Kursk has been denazified and is back in Russian hands. NATO directed the sabotage operation against the Russian heavy bombers, exploiting the fact Russia was honoring its agreement with NATO to keep those bombers visible by satellite. That was a major coup for NATO, but it was a one-off, ultimately. Expensive for Russia, yes - but not important unless and until NATO goes mask-off and enters the war without the Coupkrainian beard. And this is extremely unlikely to happen. NATO is scared, and Russia is glad of it. 

 
 

TwoIfByTea » 24 Jul 2025, 7:11 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 7:11 pm

May 1984 Soviet Afghanistan war.

Soviet troops rounded up the leaders into a tunnel sealed it off.

Poured gasoline chemicals into it lit a match Kaboom.
 
They stood there laughing about it too

September 1982 

Civillians this time because nobody would talk so Soviets just blew em up.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrhS1I ... LQFe5WUFY-
 
No Soviet troops were "Convicted" of WAR CRIME

Another Russian tactic.

Top brass skim off the ammo, fuel, and Food sold on the "Black Market".

Russian troops are scavenger survivalists

TwoIfByTea » 24 Jul 2025, 8:27 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 8:27 pm

Another Russian tactic.

Top brass skim off the ammo, fuel, and Food sold on the "Black Market".

Russian troops are scavenger survivalists

Discover card is accepted at 99% of places that accept credit cards.

You're living in the past, son.