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When I first heard people accusing my generation of not wanting to work, I was incensed. But that’s not because it isn’t true. It is. Only one in 10 Gen Zers want to work from the office full-time. We’re less likely to have ever worked beyond our contractual hours, less likely to have looked at work emails out of hours and more likely to be 10 minutes late. We take more sick days, demand full lunch breaks, and don’t want to do any work during those lunch breaks. We don’t dress in traditional “office wear” and we tend to take the total amount of our allocated annual leave.To me, this is all totally fair. After all, why would we Gen Zs want to work? I’m a 27-year-old in a traditionally “good” career living in London, and I am still clawing my way out of my overdraft each month. I have to sell my belongings on Vinted to make ends meet. I will probably never own a house. I don’t have dreams of being the highest up person at my company, or in my industry, because it doesn’t seem possible. Not only would that involve working much harder for relatively little financial reward, but all of those jobs are occupied by older people who won’t relinquish them until they literally die. So, yes, why would I want to work?My generation also don’t like work: according to YouGov, those aged 18 to 24 are way more pro a Severance situation (based on the hit Apple TV+ show where people’s work and personal lives are totally separated) than any other age group. In case that’s not clear: Gen Zs dislike work so much they’d rather a reality where, in their downtime, they have absolutely no memory of their 9 to 5. Sorry to anyone who’s become work friends with a Gen Z recently, but it turns out they might want to forget you altogether.

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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...

Vegas » 01 Aug 2025, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 10:07 am

Ok..I know that some of you, maybe all of you, are going to get your panties all wadded after reading my unpopular opinion about this. Here it goes, so prepare your g-strings. 

I 100% agree with Gen Z's reason for telling the workforce to pound sand. Not because I agree with laziness, I don't. I hate lazy people. That isn't their reason. Their reason is because they don't want to give more than what they are contracted for. If they agree to 9-5, then why the hell should they be expected to read emails outside the hours, work past those hours, or do anything work-related past those hours? The reason they don't is because they are smarter than us. We never realized that companies don't give two **** about us...but our families do.  Their priorities are correct. They figured out, very early, that if you quit a job after 30 years working there, that they will have you replaced the next day and won't even remember your name. We never came to that conclusion until it was too late. They just simply prefer to prioritize what is important. Work is a means to live the life you want; it shouldn't be your life as a whole. 

What is wrong with that?

OPINION - Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work

LowIQTrash » 01 Aug 2025, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 11:09 am

The minimum wage in 1964 was $1.25, but what the evil J U U Z in the media and deliberately failed education system don’t tell you is that it was paid in junk silver (5 quarters). 

The equivalent of that junk silver today is about $29.

So think about this. Someone making minimum wage back in 1964 could afford an apartment, health insurance, and all the necessities. They would have little saved over, but rent didn’t consume more than 30% of their income so they wouldn’t be consistently going into debt.

The median income for an individual should have been roughly 2x that - $58/hr measured in today’s currency.

With 2 earners, since almost every household has 2 people working…

[either that or

1) neither are working due to being filthy rich or

2) both are on the dole as the income threshold to qualify for government subsidies is very low; if even one person is working the entire family is disqualified]

…you would need a little over $100/hr or a little over $200K/yr to be solidly middle class.

Do these numbers seem more in tune with reality when you compare Cost of Living from different eras, or do you believe the lying J U U Z in the media?

[ It appears they’ve also got the art of lying through government statistics down to a perfect science since none of the figures (Unemployment, Inflation, GDP) are credible ]

Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...

Vegas » 01 Aug 2025, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 1:20 pm

You are correct about most of this except the junk silver part. Quarters were still made of 90% silver.

Vegas » 01 Aug 2025, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 10:07 am

Ok..I know that some of you, maybe all of you, are going to get your panties all wadded after reading my unpopular opinion about this. Here it goes, so prepare your g-strings. 

I 100% agree with Gen Z's reason for telling the workforce to pound sand. Not because I agree with laziness, I don't. I hate lazy people. That isn't their reason. Their reason is because they don't want to give more than what they are contracted for. If they agree to 9-5, then why the hell should they be expected to read emails outside the hours, work past those hours, or do anything work-related past those hours? The reason they don't is because they are smarter than us. We never realized that companies don't give two **** about us...but our families do.  Their priorities are correct. They figured out, very early, that if you quit a job after 30 years working there, that they will have you replaced the next day and won't even remember your name. We never came to that conclusion until it was too late. They just simply prefer to prioritize what is important. Work is a means to live the life you want; it shouldn't be your life as a whole. 

What is wrong with that?

OPINION - Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work

Fuelman » 01 Aug 2025, 1:58 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 1:58 pm

In 2025, the average Gen Z adult (18-28 years old) receives $1,813 per month from their parents. This financial support is given to roughly half of all Gen Z adults and is often used to help with expenses like groceries, phone bills, and rent. 
(Sounds crazy to me and not sure I believe it)


 

Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...

Vegas » 01 Aug 2025, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 1:20 pm

You are correct about most of this except the junk silver part. Quarters were still made of 90% silver.

Vegas » 01 Aug 2025, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 10:07 am

Ok..I know that some of you, maybe all of you, are going to get your panties all wadded after reading my unpopular opinion about this. Here it goes, so prepare your g-strings. 

I 100% agree with Gen Z's reason for telling the workforce to pound sand. Not because I agree with laziness, I don't. I hate lazy people. That isn't their reason. Their reason is because they don't want to give more than what they are contracted for. If they agree to 9-5, then why the hell should they be expected to read emails outside the hours, work past those hours, or do anything work-related past those hours? The reason they don't is because they are smarter than us. We never realized that companies don't give two **** about us...but our families do.  Their priorities are correct. They figured out, very early, that if you quit a job after 30 years working there, that they will have you replaced the next day and won't even remember your name. We never came to that conclusion until it was too late. They just simply prefer to prioritize what is important. Work is a means to live the life you want; it shouldn't be your life as a whole. 

What is wrong with that?

OPINION - Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

DeezerShoove » 01 Aug 2025, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 3:39 pm

"The reason they don't is because they are smarter than us.
We never realized that companies don't give two **** about us...but our families do."
---    

What's this "we" ****? Maybe you had some unrealized fantasy, but I never did.
And calling their pessimism "smarter" is a **** laugh.

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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...

RebelGator » 01 Aug 2025, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 2:16 pm

My opinion is they are lazy **** and don't even know what real work is......gotta go adjust my panties now.

Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...

Vegas » 01 Aug 2025, 5:04 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 5:04 pm

Ok...I'll rephrase. They have a ball sack and the other generations don't. They are doing something about it as opposed to whining like a bunch of little bitches. 

That better? You are welcome.

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

Vegas » 01 Aug 2025, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 10:07 am

Ok..I know that some of you, maybe all of you, are going to get your panties all wadded after reading my unpopular opinion about this. Here it goes, so prepare your g-strings. 

I 100% agree with Gen Z's reason for telling the workforce to pound sand. Not because I agree with laziness, I don't. I hate lazy people. That isn't their reason. Their reason is because they don't want to give more than what they are contracted for. If they agree to 9-5, then why the hell should they be expected to read emails outside the hours, work past those hours, or do anything work-related past those hours? The reason they don't is because they are smarter than us. We never realized that companies don't give two **** about us...but our families do.  Their priorities are correct. They figured out, very early, that if you quit a job after 30 years working there, that they will have you replaced the next day and won't even remember your name. We never came to that conclusion until it was too late. They just simply prefer to prioritize what is important. Work is a means to live the life you want; it shouldn't be your life as a whole. 

What is wrong with that?

OPINION - Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work

Mrkelly » 01 Aug 2025, 7:23 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 7:23 pm

Gen Z grew up with the internet 

lots more info

They seem to know what’s up, more than I did

I/we should have stood stronger when they took our pensions, and all the rest

they won’t take that ****

we shouldn’t have either 
 
Good on them

no spam

LowIQTrash » 01 Aug 2025, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2025, 11:09 am

The minimum wage in 1964 was $1.25, but what the evil J U U Z in the media and deliberately failed education system don’t tell you is that it was paid in junk silver (5 quarters). 

The equivalent of that junk silver today is about $29.

So think about this. Someone making minimum wage back in 1964 could afford an apartment, health insurance, and all the necessities. They would have little saved over, but rent didn’t consume more than 30% of their income so they wouldn’t be consistently going into debt.

The median income for an individual should have been roughly 2x that - $58/hr measured in today’s currency.

With 2 earners, since almost every household has 2 people working…

[either that or

1) neither are working due to being filthy rich or

2) both are on the dole as the income threshold to qualify for government subsidies is very low; if even one person is working the entire family is disqualified]

…you would need a little over $100/hr or a little over $200K/yr to be solidly middle class.

Do these numbers seem more in tune with reality when you compare Cost of Living from different eras, or do you believe the lying J U U Z in the media?

[ It appears they’ve also got the art of lying through government statistics down to a perfect science since none of the figures (Unemployment, Inflation, GDP) are credible ]