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 trump never presented a peace deal russia would want /// that ukraine can't join nato.

So. We didn't start it.

PhiloBeddo » 02 Aug 2025, 8:21 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2025, 8:21 pm

So. We didn't start it.

You can't get jack shyt done in 24 hours.  And you know who started the war with Ukraine I hope.
 

JohnnyYou » 02 Aug 2025, 9:11 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Aug 2025, 9:11 pm

You can't get jack shyt done in 24 hours.  And you know who started the war with Ukraine I hope.

Biden , Europe , and NATO pushed the full invasion.

Prior 2022 it was a Sepratist fought Civil War mostly contained within the Donbass region had been going on since Obamas 2nd term

TwoIfByTea » 03 Aug 2025, 3:25 am » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2025, 3:25 am

Biden , Europe , and NATO pushed the full invasion.

Prior 2022 it was a Sepratist fought Civil War mostly contained within the Donbass region had been going on since Obamas 2nd term

I meant the war that Trump said he would end in 24 hours. Justifying Putins action on the West's posture is a stretch in my opinion.

Technically the conflict started in 2014 when Putin invaded Crimea.

 

JohnnyYou » 03 Aug 2025, 3:40 am » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2025, 3:40 am

I meant the war that Trump said he would end in 24 hours. Justifying Putins action on the West's posture is a stretch in my opinion.

Technically the conflict started in 2014 when Putin invaded Crimea.

If anybody really thought Trump could just come in and wrap this war up in 24 hours they are a complete moron

TwoIfByTea » 03 Aug 2025, 3:44 am » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2025, 3:44 am

If anybody really thought Trump could just come in and wrap this war up in 24 hours they are a complete moron

MAGA is as MAGA does..  He campaigned as a bringer of peace.  He is a bringer of doom.

How many times have we heard his first term was like  the first Woodstock Concert?

Anyone that believes the J6 Insurrection was a justified capitol tour is a moron too.  Trump incited it. The weak azz Republican Senators could not bring themselves to eat their own shyt and convict him on the impeachment. J6 was a coup attempt. Trump called it a day of love and pardoned the cop beaters.