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"What makes an industrial complex is frontier technology, with feedback loops powerful enough to steer both markets and public policy.

 Economists describe five telltale traits: mutual dependency between state and suppliers; capital costs so high that only a few firms can play; standards written by insiders; external costs shifted to the public; and a strategic framing (“national security,” “global competitiveness”) that evades scrutiny."

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/be ... al-complex
 
 

TwoIfByTea » 06 Aug 2025, 12:55 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 12:55 am

"What makes an industrial complex is frontier technology, with feedback loops powerful enough to steer both markets and public policy.

 Economists describe five telltale traits: mutual dependency between state and suppliers; capital costs so high that only a few firms can play; standards written by insiders; external costs shifted to the public; and a strategic framing (“national security,” “global competitiveness”) that evades scrutiny."

zerohedge /technology/beware-ai-industrial-complex

There is a shytload of business keeping data cool.  It's a driving factor in the economy at the moment.

My company is chasing a huge chunk of pie.

They are using portable skid (tractor trailer container) sized natural gas fired power plants to power the data centers right now.

Natural Gas is misnomer when you have to frack it out of the ground.  Humanity is pouring 35GT of CO2 into the atmosphere yearly.
 
 

JohnnyYou » 06 Aug 2025, 2:39 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 2:39 am

There is a shytload of business keeping data cool.  It's a driving factor in the economy at the moment.

My company is chasing a huge chunk of pie.

They are using portable skid (tractor trailer container) sized natural gas fired power plants to power the data centers right now.

Natural Gas is misnomer when you have to frack it out of the ground.  Humanity is pouring 35GT of CO2 into the atmosphere yearly.

Sure in every boom there is winners people who get lucky ya know the right place at the right time BUT...There are gonna be alot more LOSERS later on once this infrasture finally takes control of every aspect of our lives.
 

TwoIfByTea » 06 Aug 2025, 3:12 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:12 am

Sure in every boom there is winners people who get lucky ya know the right place at the right time BUT...There are gonna be alot more LOSERS later on once this infrasture finally takes control of every aspect of our lives.

It's gonna be some kind of topia when AI makes everything and nobody has a job to make money to buy anything.

Whether it's  a Utopia or a Dystopia is tough to predict,  But increasingly it looks like anything tech won't need a human soon.  Sole's girlfriend will be able to design a refrigeration system in seconds and spit it out on paper for humans to build. Engineers will be replaced.  And the ability for her to just instruct humanoid robots to build it is not inconcievable... paperless manufacturing.

In the near term, refrigeration will be lucrative..  Sole's girfriend needs it to survive.

She is working on putting you out of a job Karl.
 
 

JohnnyYou » 06 Aug 2025, 3:25 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:25 am

It's gonna be some kind of topia when AI makes everything and nobody has a job to make money to buy anything.

Whether it's  a Utopia or a Dystopia is tough to predict,  But increasingly it looks like anything tech won't need a human soon.  Sole's girlfriend will be able to design a refrigeration system in seconds and spit it out on paper for humans to build. Engineers will be replaced.  And the ability for her to just instruct humanoid robots to build it is not inconcievable... paperless manufacturing.

In the near term, refrigeration will be lucrative..  Sole's girfriend needs it to survive.

She is working on putting you out of a job Karl.

Sounds like a late night re-run of Star Treck Voyager or Next Generaration