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Cannonpointer » 20 Aug 2025, 6:06 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Aug 2025, 6:06 pm

I said those words to THIS, garrulous ***:

This^ was AFTER you insisted that other countries would pay the tariffs, because you don't understand what a tariff is. You change the word "pay" to "absorb," and pretend China is "absorbing" the tariffs. THE IMPORTERS PAY THE TARIFFS. THE TARIFFS ARE PAID, NOT "ABSORBED." 

Currency manipulation has ****-all to do with tariffs. 

Currency manipulation is not Chyna "paying" OR "absorbing" the tariffs. AMERICAN IMPORTERS pay the tariffs.

You have repeatedly insisted that American businesses were going to "absorb" the tariffs, paying them but not recouping through markups - like arguing over WHICH Americans were getting over-taxed was some kind of refutation. And now you swtich it that Chyna is "absorbing" them by manipulating its currency.I GUESS ALL THOSE AMERICAN COMPANIES YOU SAID WERE ABSORBING THE TARIFFS ARE OFF THE HOOK SCOTT FREE. 

I told you that neither Chyna nor ANY OTHER COUNTRY would pay the tariffs - and I said you would never show such a thing happening. 

Give it a break, valor thief.

No way anyone as stupid and excitable as you ever created a job or ran a business.

So dickhead, why don't you tell me how it's ANY different for China to absorb the tariff by devaluing their currency, and having them pay it outright?  Either way, CHINA is paying the Trump tariff, NOT THE US CONSUMER, you **** moron!
And I'm not defending China's currency manipulation by stating the fact of how they've decided to respond to the tariff.  That's simply a method that a dope like you never thought it was something a country would do in response, but nevertheless it is far better for this country BECAUSE THE US CONSUMER WILL NOT SEE ANY PRICE INCREASE!  Isn't THAT the point, you buffoon?  You can deny it all you like, since you obviously have ZERO understanding about the number of ways that a country can absorb that cost themselves, and if a US international corporation in China or elsewhere is hit with the tariff, they have the option to either relocate their business in the US or move the production of one of those newly taxed products to one of their facilities in the US to avoid that tariff.

Care to share your expertise and tell us how you could be so stupid to believe that if China devalues their currency, bringing the price of a product down from 100 Yuan to 90 Yuan to import an item Trump put a 10% tariff on, (which would have ADDED 10 Yuan to the cost for an importer) THEN WHERE IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COST TO THAT US IMPORTER, you **** imbecile?

And don't try lying about how I stated there were MANY ways that a country OR AN INTERNATIONAL COMPANY can absorb that tariff so that the US consumer pays nothing!  I showed you a list of BOTH countries AND businesses who are planning to absorb that tariff in order to keep their price stable for that American consumer.  You're just too dumb to grasp something so obvious, and think everyone else here is as poorly educated as a big mouthed blowhard like you!

So now that I've educated you to what "stolen valor" is, it's of great relief that a dope like you now only considers me a "valor thief"!  So tell me, stupid.  Who exactly did I "steal" that valor from as a business owner for over 50 years?  Your fat mama?

And despite the fact that I proved I've owned multiple businesses in my career and rubbed your fat nose in that fact years ago, you seem to want to revisit that same humiliation once again!  Is that about right, sissyboi?  You need to have your faced shoved in that pile of **** you've shoveled a second time?

I'm ready, ******!  Let's hear you make that challenge again, tough guy!  I LOVE to humiliate empty dickheads like you!

 
 

Zeets2 » 21 Aug 2025, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 10:41 am

I'm ready, ******!  Let's hear you make that challenge again, tough guy!  I LOVE to humiliate empty dickheads like you!

@Cannonpointer  ...You really should give it up. U R embarrassing yourself. Zeets2 is killing it.
 

Zeets2 » 21 Aug 2025, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 10:41 am

So dickhead, why don't you tell me how it's ANY different for China to absorb the tariff by devaluing their currency, and having them pay it outright?  Either way, CHINA is paying the Trump tariff, NOT THE US CONSUMER, you **** moron!

Whatever else was in this screed got erased unread, due to how stupid this **** ^ is. 

I have no duty to read and respond to the horse **** of a loser who STARTS his screed at this level, you **** moron.

Chyna can devalue its currency to ZERO, and the US importer of Chinee goods is STILL gonna pay that tariff.

 
 

MR-7 » 21 Aug 2025, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 10:51 am

@Cannonpointer  ...You really should give it up. U R embarrassing yourself. Zeets2 is killing it.

@ *** - you're a moron.

The queer thinks that China devaluing its currency magically pays the tariffs. 

You cannot POSSIBLY cosign that and be heterosexual. You need to get off the *** dick, and stop being a *** dicker. 
 

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 9:13 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 9:13 am

Mexico and Canada are bypassing the US for trade, using Atlantic ports.

youtube /watch?v=jAAHAnhMzxc

Stupid Orange Phooker sure shyt the bed.  He is All  In with Poop...

Las Vegas is going broke.. Do the "Trump Slump". Washington DC is such a shythole filled with crime now the world does not want to visit our third world nation. Vance said the people protesting in DC "Have Never Experienced Danger"..   Paradoxical at best... Canada and Mexico are boycotting us. And they are going to start buying Xi  Jinping Mobiles...

have the second trump administration impacted the number of foreign visitors to las vegas
Multiple news reports indicate that the second Trump administration has been linked to a slump in tourism in Las Vegas, particularly among foreign visitors
. According to the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority (LVCVA), Las Vegas welcomed just under 3.1 million tourists in June 2025, an 11% drop compared to June 2024, with international travelers decreasing by 13% and hotel occupancy falling by about 15%. Mayor Shelley Berkley of Las Vegas noted a significant decline in tourism from Canada and Mexico, Nevada's largest international markets. 
Some sources directly attribute this decline to the Trump administration's tariffs and immigration policies, referring to it as the "Trump slump". However, it is important to note that the decrease in international visitation to Las Vegas is part of a broader trend of declining international tourism across the US. In addition to the potential impact of Trump's policies, some suggest the decline may also be due to: 

• Lingering economic uncertainty: People may cut back on discretionary spending like vacations during uncertain economic times,  no spam .
• The absence of the Super Bowl in 2025: Las Vegas hosted the Super Bowl in 2024, which could have inflated visitation numbers for that year compared to 2025,  no spam .
• A "post-pandemic spike" in tourism: Some believe that the current downturn follows a period of exceptionally high tourism after the COVID-19 pandemic,  no spam .
• Increased cost of visiting: Rising costs of food, hotel rooms, and attractions might be making Las Vegas less appealing to some tourists. 

It's crucial to acknowledge that various factors can influence tourism trends, and attributing the recent decline solely to the current administration's policies may be an oversimplification
 
 

Cannonpointer » 21 Aug 2025, 6:59 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 6:59 pm

Whatever else was in this screed got erased unread, due to how stupid this **** ^ is. 

I have no duty to read and respond to the horse **** of a loser who STARTS his screed at this level, you **** moron.

Chyna can devalue its currency to ZERO, and the US importer of Chinee goods is STILL gonna pay that tariff.

Of course, you don't want other members here to understand how dumb you really are, do you "mr. senior moderator".  Best to hide whatever proof you can of that painful fact!

Chyna can devalue its currency to ZERO, and the US importer of Chinee goods is STILL gonna pay that tariff.
Meanwhile, this new sentence proves beyond the shadow of doubt what a truly economic imbecile you are!  

China's move to devalue their currency IS THEIR DIRECT RESPONSE TO MINIMIZE THE PAIN OF ABSORBING THE TRUMP TARIFF!
So once again, I'm forced to expose your stupidity to everyone here, at least until you decide to erase even more of your own ignorance.
Here moron.  Long past time to educate your stupid self once again!

Amid Donald Trump's tariff offensive, China lets yuan slide to 19-month ...
Apr 8, 2025
Will devaluation work as a buffer against Trump's tariffs? A weaker yuan offers a tactical advantage in the trade war. It lowers the price of Chinese goods in dollar terms, making exports more competitive and helping to offset the impact of US tariffs.

 

Chinese Yuan Devaluation Next Major Flash Point, Analysts See USD/CNY At This Level
Exchange Rates By Tim Clayton   Apr 10, 2025
One policy tool would certainly be a yuan devaluation to offset the impact of tariffs and provided stimulus to the Chinese economy.

 

The Yuan's Counterstrike: How China Could Leverage Currency Devaluation to Offset U.S. Tariffs
Delanta Frink  Apr 8 

The Yuan Devaluation
In the escalating trade war between the US and China, tariffs have been the primary weapons of choice. However, beneath the surface, China has employed a more subtle yet potent strategy: the devaluation of its currency, the yuan. This maneuver aims to mitigate the impact of U.S. tariffs and maintain China's competitive edge in global markets.

 

Yuan devaluation market chatter grows as trade war worsens
Business Times Mon, Apr 7, 2025
Controversial and non-consensus move would in theory make Chinese exports cheaper but risk capital flight
Strategists from NY to Hong Kong are game-planning if Beijing’s Friday (Apr 4) warning of a “resolute” response to US President Trump’s tariffs could include allowing the yuan to weaken sharply, a controversial and non-consensus move which would in theory make Chinese exports cheaper but risk capital flight.

Is that enough evidence to keep your stupidity in check, you buffoon?
Let's all watch and laugh now as you try to deflect from your foolish statement and pivot away from the idiocy you responded with as you attempt to prove your vast wisdom on the subject!      

 
 

Zeets2 » 22 Aug 2025, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

22 Aug 2025, 9:54 am

Of course, you don't want other members here to understand how dumb you really are, do you "mr. senior moderator".  Best to hide whatever proof you can of that painful fact!

Chyna can devalue its currency to ZERO, and the US importer of Chinee goods is STILL gonna pay that tariff.
Meanwhile, this new sentence proves beyond the shadow of doubt what a truly economic imbecile you are!  

China's move to devalue their currency IS THEIR DIRECT RESPONSE TO MINIMIZE THE PAIN OF ABSORBING THE TRUMP TARIFF!

Queer, the tariffs are paid by the importer.

Zeets2 » 22 Aug 2025, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

22 Aug 2025, 9:54 am

So once again, I'm forced to expose your stupidity to everyone here, at least until you decide to erase even more of your own ignorance.
Here moron.  Long past time to educate your stupid self once again!

Is that enough evidence to keep your stupidity in check, you buffoon?
Let's all watch and laugh now as you try to deflect from your foolish statement and pivot away from the idiocy you responded with as you attempt to prove your vast wisdom on the subject!    

Queer, the tariffs are paid by the importer.

Currency manipulation is a completely separtate issue - you were crying about it BEFORE TRUMP WAS ELECTED. Marrying the two is what gay caballeros do, you retarded spewbot.


 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 22 Aug 2025, 1:40 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Aug 2025, 1:40 pm

Queer, the tariffs are paid by the importer.

Currency manipulation is a completely separtate issue - you were crying about it BEFORE TRUMP WAS ELECTED. 

And just so ya know, your link is satire, ya **** idiot. It's initials are BS.     

When you are stupidly "kicking my ***" with a satire site as your source, you are showing the board PRECISELY why you are a flyover poster.

Atta girl!  You keep right on exposing your stupidity for all to see!
Any 5th grader can tell you when a country devalues their currency, IMPORTS FROM THAT COUNTRY BECOME CHEAPER FOR THE IMPORTER!
It is NOT a "completely separate issue", fool!  If the price of an import becomes 10% cheaper because they devalued their Yuan, and Trump's tariff puts that 10% back on with his tariff, THE PRICE REMAINS THE SAME FOR THE IMPORTER!  HIS PRICE HASN'T CHANGED!

Now, dickhead.  WHICH of these stories DOESN'T SAY PRECISELY THAT?:

Amid Donald Trump's tariff offensive, China lets yuan slide to 19-month ...
Business Standard  4/8/25
Will devaluation work as a buffer against Trump's tariffs? A weaker yuan offers a tactical advantage in the trade war. It lowers the price of Chinese goods in dollar terms, making exports more competitive and helping to offset the impact of US tariffs.

 

Chinese Yuan Devaluation Next Major Flash Point, Analysts See USD/CNY At This Level
Exchange Rates By Tim Clayton   Apr 10, 2025
One policy tool would certainly be a yuan devaluation to offset the impact of tariffs and provided stimulus to the Chinese economy.

 

The Yuan's Counterstrike: How China Could Leverage Currency Devaluation to Offset U.S. Tariffs
Frink Capital by Delanta Frink  Apr 8 

In the escalating trade war between the US and China, tariffs have been the primary weapons of choice. Beneath the surface, China has employed a more subtle yet potent strategy: the devaluation of its currency, the yuan. This maneuver aims to mitigate the impact of U.S. tariffs and maintain China's competitive edge in global markets.

 

Yuan devaluation market chatter grows as trade war worsens
Business Times 4/7/25
Controversial and non-consensus move would in theory make Chinese exports cheaper but risk capital flight
Strategists from NY to Hong Kong are game-planning if Beijing’s Friday (Apr 4) warning of a “resolute” response to US President Trump’s tariffs could include allowing the yuan to weaken sharply, a controversial and non-consensus move which would in theory make Chinese exports cheaper but risk capital flight.

Here's another report, unless you're stupidly going to try to claim that Newsweek is also a satire piece:

Yuan Sinks to 17-year Low as Trump Excludes China From Tariffs Pause
Newsweek 4/10/25
The Yuan dipped to a 17-year low against the U.S. dollar early on Thursday after President Donald Trump excluded Beijing from his 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs and cranked up his tariff on Chinese goods imports to 125 percent.

The Chinese economy is heavily reliant on exports, so a weaker yuan could help cushion the impact of Trump's tariff hike by making Chinese goods more competitive

Still care to double-down on your ignorance further?     

 
 

Zeets2 » 22 Aug 2025, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Aug 2025, 2:36 pm

Atta girl!  You keep right on exposing your stupidity for all to see!
Any 5th grader can tell you when a country devalues their currency, IMPORTS FROM THAT COUNTRY BECOME CHEAPER FOR THE IMPORTER!
It is NOT a "completely separate issue", fool!  If the price of an import becomes 10% cheaper because they devalued their Yuan, and Trump's tariff puts that 10% back on with his tariff, THE PRICE REMAINS THE SAME FOR THE IMPORTER!  HIS PRICE HASN'T CHANGED!

Now, dickhead.  WHICH of these stories DOESN'T SAY PRECISELY THAT?:

Here's another report, unless you're stupidly going to try to claim that Newsweek is also a satire piece:

Still care to double-down on your ignorance further?   

Atta girl! Currency manipulation means that American importers DON'T have to pay the tariffs!

Meanwhile, the issue was tariffs on Brazil, not China. So this entire argument you are raising is so **** gay it's incredible. 

The idea that sanctions can be paid through currency manipulation is retarded. Importers pay the tariffs. Currency manipulation is a separate issue - one that you spent a year whining about, before you've spent all this energy trying to frame as a good thing. You're a monkey, son. 

Cannonpointer » 22 Aug 2025, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Aug 2025, 2:47 pm

Atta girl! Currency manipulation means that American importers DON'T have to pay the tariffs!

Meanwhile, the issue was tariffs on Brazil, not China. So this entire argument you are raising is so **** gay it's incredible. 

The idea that sanctions can be paid through currency manipulation is retarded. Importers pay the tariffs. Currency manipulation is a separate issue - one that you spent a year whining about, before you've spent all this energy trying to frame as a good thing. You're a monkey, son.

And you're a complete asshole!
I've NEVER made any statement "trying to frame (devaluation) as a good thing"!  If you've got proof of that lie, THEN SHOW IT, scumbag! 
And even if that was a statement I made (which it wasn't), how the hell does it matter to China whether I liked such a policy or not?  It's become THEIR strategy to absorb the Trump tariff, and you're STILL too dumb to grasp that fact!  When the price of a product DROPS through devaluation of the currency, a new tariff puts the price right back where it was, AT THE SAME PRICE AN IMPORTER PAID BEFORE THE DEVALUATION AND THE TRUMP TARIFF!  
That's a FACT, dickhead, so try to get it through that thick cement block sitting on your shoulders!

This topic was about the options that EVERY COUNTRY HAS when deciding how to react to Trump's tariffs, and one of those ways (as China has already proven to use) is to DEVALUE THEIR CURRENCY, which you've repeatedly tried to claim wouldn't affect the amount of the Trump tariff!

And NOBODY has inferred that these tariffs are sanctions, proving you don't have a clue what the **** they are either!
But your ignorance on THAT subject we can leave for another day!
I simply can't handle any more stupidity on your part today, as you've already exceeded your allowable limit!     

 

How's that deal working out for them?
Canada scraps billions in tariffs on US imports as it extends olive branch to Trump

MR-7 » 23 Aug 2025, 6:30 am » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2025, 6:30 am

How's that deal working out for them?
Canada scraps billions in tariffs on US imports as it extends olive branch to Trump

Canada has realized what other countries are recognizing as well.  The country with the strongest and wealthiest population is who drives the market!
And trying to harm the US with retaliatory tariffs hurts them far more than it does the US, despite the fact that it may increase their own national pride for them to think they're on equal footing with us.

Now, they've **** around and found out how in reality, they're nothing but a Class D level minor league team compared to the US who are the major leagues.
 

MR-7 » 06 Aug 2025, 10:12 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:12 am

FAKE news....

It's real. The infrastructure planning is still being worked out, but they have already bypassed US ports. 

Vegas » 23 Aug 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2025, 10:39 am

It's real. The infrastructure planning is still being worked out, but they have already bypassed US ports.

The video makes it sound like its happening next year or sooner. They will both be states of America by then.

So, while some phases may wrap up by late 2025, the full corridor won’t be in service until 2036.




 

Vegas » 23 Aug 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2025, 10:39 am

It's real. The infrastructure planning is still being worked out, but they have already bypassed US ports.

Key Milestones

• PD&E Phase Start: June 2016
• PD&E Restart: April 2024
• 15% Design Completion: Expected in 2025
• Construction Phase Completion (Partial): Targeted for December 2025
• Full Revenue Service Launch: Projected for 2036, contingent on funding availability

MR-7 » 23 Aug 2025, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2025, 10:48 am

The video makes it sound like its happening next year or sooner. They will both be states of America by then.

So, while some phases may wrap up by late 2025, the full corridor won’t be in service until 2036.

I don't want either of them to be states. 

MR-7 » 23 Aug 2025, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2025, 10:49 am

Key Milestones

• PD&E Phase Start: June 2016
• PD&E Restart: April 2024
• 15% Design Completion: Expected in 2025
• Construction Phase Completion (Partial): Targeted for December 2025
• Full Revenue Service Launch: Projected for 2036, contingent on funding availability

Oh ok. My bad. Thanks. Either way, it is real. 

Vegas » 23 Aug 2025, 10:52 am » wrote: ↑

23 Aug 2025, 10:52 am

Oh ok. My bad. Thanks. Either way, it is real.

Yes, it is real...I was simply calling it fake because they make it sound like they have defeated TRUMP, and that it will go into effect here in the very near future.