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DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 2:06 pm

Trump should scare piss out of a lot of people.
That's what we're paying him for.  

Biden did that too. For completely different reasons though.

No, not for different reasons. Both are dottering, out-of-their mind clowns.

Trump is Gladys Kravitz. But hiding the Epstein files and talking about pardoning child-rapists.

 
 

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 3:07 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:07 pm

That's objectively false.

He is putting israel first in every way. He bombed a country for them. That's an act of war - you can google it. I dare you. Google it. Bombing someone's country is an act of war.

Pretend someone bombed our country. \

See that? 

Act of war. 

Putting the US at risk of war for israel isn't putting America first - in any way.

If Iran does not like it, they can declare an "Act of War" and do something about it. Actually, I dare them too.
 

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 2:06 pm

That's what we're paying him for.  

 

Speak for yourself. I voted for him hoping that he would be the adult in the room, not the tantrum-ing toddler. We don't want people to fear America - we want them to respect America. 

If you fear someone - and by you I mean YOU, - you will be very cautious of them and try to deal with them as little as possible. If you RESPECT someone, you are looking for reasons to deal with them. 

So, please - that narrative has no wings, unless they are connected to a menstrual pad designed to hide the blood. That narrative is precisly the opposite of reality. An unhinged, utterly unpredictable ***-clown president that changes his program like he's changing underwear is NOT what we were promised and NOT what we voted for and NOT something the rest of the world is keen to make deals with. 

What deals has that mouthy orange *** made, besides the gunpoiint deal he made at the expense of our vassals in Europe? He has blown up our trade relations with India and China, FFS. A protectionist tariff program - that, I voted for. But a raving lunatic who doesn't even sit down with people before threatening them? That is not how lasting deals are made. 

He is on a crusade to convince the planet that the US cannot be counted on to keep its word.
 

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 3:08 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:08 pm

No, not for different reasons. Both are dottering, out-of-their mind clowns.

Trump is Gladys Kravitz. But hiding the Epstein files and talking about pardoning child-rapists.

ABnah! ABnah!
I know we can speculate like a ****...

The truth must be some convoluted ****.
This is the epitome of us vs them.
**** were caught; we all know it; but The Swamp doesn't give up easily.
 

MR-7 » 06 Aug 2025, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:16 pm

If Iran does not like it, they can declare an "Act of War" and do something about it. Actually, I dare them too.

Iran will simply give more to the houthis, you dummy. The fact that they cannot beat us in the conventional war your favorite *** started and that you double dog dare 'em to declare does NOT mean they cede the right to respond to israel's slave-state in asymetric ways. 

If and when they decide to pull off an act of terror against the US, they have their justification. And be clear - state terror is a means of making war. You should understand this, since your has country has fielded ISIS and kurds and al qaieda and contras and other terrorists. 
 
 

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:19 pm

ABnah! ABnah!
I know we can speculate like a ****...

The truth must be some convoluted ****.
This is the epitome of us vs them.
**** were caught; we all know it; but The Swamp doesn't give up easily.

The swamp, ya say...

Gosh, it's Trump that's shielding the child rapists...

Sumpn you wanna share?
 

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:23 pm

Iran will simply give more to the houthis, you dummy. The fact that they cannot beat us in the conventional war your favorite *** started and that you double dog dare 'em to declare does NOT mean they cede the right to respond to israel's slave-state in asymetric ways. 

If and when they decide to pull off an act of terror against the US, they have their justification. And be clear - state terror is a means of making war. You should understand this, since your has country has fielded ISIS and kurds and al qaieda and contras and other terrorists.

TRUMP has nothing to worry about He did the right thing.

“presidents of both parties have operated for decades under a Justice Department framework that ‘reflects not only the express assignment of powers and responsibilities to the President and Congress in the Constitution, but also . . . the ‘historical gloss’ placed on the Constitution by two centuries of practice.’ It has thus long been the position of the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel that history has ratified unilateral presidential deployments of military force as long as (1) the deployment serves ‘sufficiently important national interests,’ as judged by the President, and (2) the deployment does not portend a ‘prolonged and substantial military engagement, typically involving exposure of U.S. military personnel to significant risk over a substantial period.’ Trump’s letter to Congress reporting on the bombing relies on this framework.”

Seeking to claw back some of its power, Congress passed the War Powers Resolution in 1973 on a bipartisan basis, and over the veto of then-President Richard Nixon. As the Congressional Research Service explains, the War Powers Resolution requires presidents within 48 hours “to report to Congress any introduction of U.S. forces into hostilities or imminent hostilities.”

 
 

MR-7 » 06 Aug 2025, 3:36 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:36 pm

TRUMP has nothing to worry about He did the right thing.

“presidents of both parties have operated for decades under a Justice Department framework that ‘reflects not only the express assignment of powers and responsibilities to the President and Congress in the Constitution, but also . . . the ‘historical gloss’ placed on the Constitution by two centuries of practice.’ It has thus long been the position of the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel that history has ratified unilateral presidential deployments of military force as long as (1) the deployment serves ‘sufficiently important national interests,’

Name that. Pretend you're a regular fella and not an abject slave of israel, and tell me what US interest was served.

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:23 pm

Iran will simply give more to the houthis, you dummy. The fact that they cannot beat us in the conventional war your favorite *** started and that you double dog dare 'em to declare does NOT mean they cede the right to respond to israel's slave-state in asymetric ways. 

If and when they decide to pull off an act of terror against the US, they have their justification. And be clear - state terror is a means of making war. You should understand this, since your has country has fielded ISIS and kurds and al qaieda and contras and other terrorists.

Rounds says Trump notified congressional leaders of strikes ‘well within’ 48-hour window

Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) said on Sunday that President Trump notified Congress of the strikes on Iranian nuclear sites “well within” the 48-hour window defined by the War Powers Resolution. In an interview on NewsNation’s “The Hill Sunday,” Rounds pushed back against critics who say the president acted outside his constitutional authority by ordering strikes on three Iranian nuclear sites, including Fordow. “The Constitution clearly gives the President the authority to act on our nation’s behalf,” Rounds said.

"Second of all, the War Powers Act, which is in place, was responded to appropriately. They were supposed to notify congressional leaders within 48 hours. They were well within that range of notifying them of the actions [that] were taken, so the law has been complied with. The Constitution is being complied with,” Rounds continued.

Obama bombed the **** out of countries...      without congressional approval. TRUMP's TURN.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 3:39 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:39 pm

Name that. Pretend you're a regular fella and not an abject slave of israel, and tell me what US interest was served.

Iran threatened to 'trigger sleeper terror cells inside US' if ... - LBC

Jun 23, 2025 · Iran warned the US it would activate terror sleeper cells inside the country in the event of an attack days before Donald Trump launched strikes on three nuclear sites.

Do you need anything else? who else wants to threaten us?....Oh yeah...we got subs in place.
 

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 3:26 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:26 pm

The swamp, ya say...

Gosh, it's Trump that's shielding the child rapists...

Sumpn you wanna share?

You think he's shielding that under duress? I do.
He may have personal reasons as well. That wouldn't surprise me.
But I gotta believe there's more to it.
They had something to show the world. Even announced it.
Then clammed up.
I smell gefilte.

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:16 pm

Speak for yourself. I voted for him hoping that he would be the adult in the room, not the tantrum-ing toddler. We don't want people to fear America - we want them to respect America. 

If you fear someone - and by you I mean YOU, - you will be very cautious of them and try to deal with them as little as possible. If you RESPECT someone, you are looking for reasons to deal with them. 

So, please - that narrative has no wings, unless they are connected to a menstrual pad designed to hide the blood. That narrative is precisly the opposite of reality. An unhinged, utterly unpredictable ***-clown president that changes his program like he's changing underwear is NOT what we were promised and NOT what we voted for and NOT something the rest of the world is keen to make deals with. 

What deals has that mouthy orange *** made, besides the gunpoiint deal he made at the expense of our vassals in Europe? He has blown up our trade relations with India and China, FFS. A protectionist tariff program - that, I voted for. But a raving lunatic who doesn't even sit down with people before threatening them? That is not how lasting deals are made. 

He is on a crusade to convince the planet that the US cannot be counted on to keep its word.

When was the last time we were actually respected? WWII?
Even then that was tinged with some fear.
I actually don't know. There is always somebody bitching out there.

MR-7 » 06 Aug 2025, 3:57 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:57 pm

Rounds says Trump notified congressional leaders of strikes ‘well within’ 48-hour window

Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) said on Sunday that President Trump notified Congress of the strikes on Iranian nuclear sites “well within” the 48-hour window defined by the War Powers Resolution. In an interview on NewsNation’s “The Hill Sunday,” Rounds pushed back against critics who say the president acted outside his constitutional authority by ordering strikes on three Iranian nuclear sites, including Fordow. “The Constitution clearly gives the President the authority to act on our nation’s behalf,” Rounds said.

"Second of all, the War Powers Act, which is in place, was responded to appropriately. They were supposed to notify congressional leaders within 48 hours. They were well within that range of notifying them of the actions [that] were taken, so the law has been complied with. The Constitution is being complied with,” Rounds continued.

Obama bombed the **** out of countries...      without congressional approval. TRUMP's TURN.

You must think extremely little of Trump, to holdhim to the Obama standard. We voted forTRUMP, not Obama.

Obama sucked dick and married a ***. Should Trump suck dick and marry a ***?


 

MR-7 » 06 Aug 2025, 4:24 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 4:24 pm

Iran threatened to 'trigger sleeper terror cells inside US' if ... - LBC

Jun 23, 2025 · Iran warned the US it would activate terror sleeper cells inside the country in the event of an attack days before Donald Trump launched strikes on three nuclear sites.

Do you need anything else? who else wants to threaten us?....Oh yeah...we got subs in place.

It's almost as if Trump DIDN'T promise not to start wars. Are you just retarded?
 

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 5:59 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 5:59 pm

You think he's shielding that under duress? I do.

I'm sure of it. What that duress IS, neither of us can say. But there's a good bit of smoke - decades-long friendships with diddy and epstein, ownership of and inappropriate activity within the miss teen america contest, trial balloons about pardoning diddy and maxwell - which suggests that the fire that his feet are being held to has something to do with video tape.

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 5:59 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 5:59 pm

He may have personal reasons as well. That wouldn't surprise me.

There is nothing more personal than nekkid pitchers.

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 5:59 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 5:59 pm

But I gotta believe there's more to it.
They had something to show the world. Even announced it.
Then clammed up.
I smell gefilte.

What kind of person eats that stuff?

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 6:04 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 6:04 pm

When was the last time we were actually respected? WWII?
Even then that was tinged with some fear.
I actually don't know. There is always somebody bitching out there.

We have been highly respected for all of the last century. We are not the world's reserve currency in a vacuum. 

We are still respected. But the respect is waning fast, leaving only fear. And fear is unattractive. It is the opposite of attractive. 

Nations did not have to like us to respect us. 
 

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 6:04 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 6:04 pm

When was the last time we were actually respected? 



 

2024
 

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 7:19 pm

We have been highly respected for all of the last century. We are not the world's reserve currency in a vacuum. 

We are still respected. But the respect is waning fast, leaving only fear. And fear is unattractive. It is the opposite of attractive. 

Nations did not have to like us to respect us.

Even you said the dollar is dead because the petro dollar is no more.
The main reason the world switched from British pounds to dollars was the Brits were going broke from WWI.
It's not so much respect as it is by default that we retain the status of world reserve currency.

But don't get me wrong. I want the US to be respected for good reasons.
Sort of "loved by friends and feared by enemies" kind of thing. Both are necessary with regards to respect.

Willing dupes - that was the Biden Era. Shockingly embarrassing.
Makes Bammy's ***-Kiss Trip look tame... Worthless effort.
Trump's Second Round seems like he's still awash in hyperbole if you ask me. Verdict tbd.

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 10:37 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:37 pm

Even you said the dollar is dead because the petro dollar is no more.

The dollar has not been replaced as the world reserve currency. It has merely been abandoned in the matter of oil purchases - which is huge, but not quite the cause of a funeral. The dollar is STILL the world reserve currency. 54% of all global trade is still done in dollars. That is down from 71% in 2000. The trajectory isn't pretty. But no currency has replaced the dollar, and more than half of global trade is still done in dollars.

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 10:37 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:37 pm

The main reason the world switched from British pounds to dollars was the Brits were going broke from WWI.
It's not so much respect as it is by default that we retain the status of world reserve currency.

We got that status out of respect. We are rapidly losing that respect, specifically because our word means ****, we've abused the honor, and we are in the "clown show" phase of empire.Much as the brits were when they lost the honor. Just so ya know, Portugal, Spain, Netherlands and France have also held the honor in the past.

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 10:37 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:37 pm

But don't get me wrong. I want the US to be respected for good reasons.

So does Bruce Jenner - but he is giving the world good reasons to not respect us.

DeezerShoove » 06 Aug 2025, 10:37 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:37 pm

Sort of "loved by friends and feared by enemies" kind of thing. Both are necessary with regards to respect.

Willing dupes - that was the Biden Era. Shockingly embarrassing.
Makes Bammy's ***-Kiss Trip look tame... Worthless effort.
Trump's Second Round seems like he's still awash in hyperbole if you ask me. Verdict tbd.

Dropping bombs for israel, threatening to steal land from allies, sky-screaming about tariffing the moon, floating trial balloons about pardoning maxwell and diddy, prolonging the proxy war in Coupkraine by pretending he is too stupid to get Putin's perfectly reasonable and necessary red lines - the verdict is IN, in Pointerville. Just for the record, Trump actually COULD end that war in a matter of weeks - could end the combat in a matter of days. Russia isn't demanding anything it doesn't have every right to - and the demonstrable power to cause through more unnecessary bleeding (thanks to Trump).

It wants every inch of ground - sorry, centimeter - that it has bled upon, it wants Coupkraine's Constitutional mandate of military neutrality restored (as do ALL sane people desire a neutral between opposing nuclear factions duh), and it wants Coupkrain returned to a demilitarized condition - that is, a defensive military and not an offensive one. And mind you, BEFORE russians bled upon that land, Russia's government demanded none of it - save Crimea, which was already Russian soil under international law by the authority of its citizens through plebescite as determined by the precedent of the international court in the case of Kosovo. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 06 Aug 2025, 10:56 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:56 pm

The dollar has not been replaced as the world reserve currency. It has merely been abandoned in the matter of oil purchases - which is huge, but not quite the cause of a funeral. The dollar is STILL the world reserve currency. 54% of all global trade is still done in dollars. That is down from 71% in 2000. The trajectory isn't pretty. But no currency has replaced the dollar, and more than half of global trade is still done in dollars.

We got that status out of respect. We are rapidly losing that respect, specifically because our word means ****, we've abused the honor, and we are in the "clown show" phase of empire.Much as the brits were when they lost the honor. Just so ya know, Portugal, Spain, Netherlands and France have also held the honor in the past.

So does Bruce Jenner - but he is giving the world good reasons to not respect us.

Dropping bombs for israel, threatening to steal land from allies, sky-screaming about tariffing the moon, floating trial balloons about pardoning maxwell and diddy, prolonging the proxy war in Coupkraine by pretending he is too stupid to get Putin's perfectly reasonable and necessary red lines - the verdict is IN, in Pointerville. Just for the record, Trump actually COULD end that war in a matter of weeks - could end the combat in a matter of days. Russia isn't demanding anything it doesn't have every right to - and the demonstrable power to cause through more unnecessary bleeding (thanks to Trump).

It wants every inch of ground - sorry, centimeter - that it has bled upon, it wants Coupkraine's Constitutional mandate of military neutrality restored (as do ALL sane people desire a neutral between opposing nuclear factions duh), and it wants Coupkrain returned to a demilitarized condition - that is, a defensive military and not an offensive one. And mind you, BEFORE russians bled upon that land, Russia's government demanded none of it - save Crimea, which was already Russian soil under international law by the authority of its citizens through plebescite as determined by the precedent of the international court in the case of Kosovo.

In your NATO can't dance thread, I posted in a vid with an interesting point:
Ukraine (as with any nation) must have settled its border conflicts before admission into NATO.
Ergo, it's in Putin's interest to NOT let the conflict subside.