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Trump promised tariffs that were protectionist in nature.

His tariffs on Brazil are against a nation which has a large trade deficit with us. The purpose of the tariffs is clearly not protectionist. The purpose is punitive and unrelated to trade. And by now, it should be understood by everyone on this board that every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers - not from the target country. Tariffs are inflationary - and that's okay, if they effectively bring jobs home for workers. I'm good with paying extra.But just to prosecute petty grudges? Not so much. 

His tariffs on India are at least against a nation with which we have a trade deficit. But they are in response to India buying petro products from Russia. Trump is using tariffs not to protect American jobs, as he had promised; but rather, as a foreign policy tool, at the expense of American consumers. We MIGHT see a few pharma jobs out of these tariffs, but it's highly unlikely. We're almost certainly just going to pay literally double for generic drugs, with no benefit accruing to American workers. 

We have a trade surplus with Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, and the United Kingdom. But Trump tariffed all. It had nothing to do with trade - and the promise was that the tariffs would have everything to do with trade. 

Trump did a bait and switch. And the die-hard MAGA are not smart enough to see it. I supported tariffs. But adult tariffs.Targeted tariffs. Not tariffs against the moon. Not tariffs against the planet. EACH AND EVERY ONE of these tariffs are a tax on the American consumer. Trump is raising our taxes like it's a Christmas sale. And because tariffs are paid by the importer at landfall, Americans are not merely paying the tariffs. The importer now has an additional cash investment that must make a profit - so Americanb consumers pay well above the tariff rate. 

And I was okay with this - if it helped workers. If it was targeted. If it was against nations that were "taking advantage." If it was a TRADE TOOL. But tariffs have turned into a gun we gave a monkey - and there are no more frightening combined words in the english language than monkey and pistol. Monkey Pistol is just nota thing ya wanna hear about.

We have an orangutan spraying an automatic tariff rifle indiscriminately, with a **** eating grin on his mug. 
 

You are a retard, shut up

PhiloBeddo » 07 Aug 2025, 11:59 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 11:59 pm

You are a retard, shut up

You didn't even direct the reply to anyone loser.

You are so **** stupid. 

Trumpocalypse is destroying America

The tariffs/ tradewar  combined with mass deportations is a recipe for disaster.

People in India live on less than 1000$ a year to build I Phones.    How are 20$ and hour screwdrivers going to compete? Americans won't be able to afford cell phones built by Americans.. Who exactly is ripping of who in this deal?

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PhiloBeddo » 07 Aug 2025, 11:59 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 11:59 pm

You are a retard, shut up

I'm quite serious, Phil....

You should have been aborted...

Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 10:21 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 10:21 pm

Trump promised tariffs that were protectionist in nature.

His tariffs on Brazil are against a nation which has a large trade deficit with us. The purpose of the tariffs is clearly not protectionist. The purpose is punitive and unrelated to trade. And by now, it should be understood by everyone on this board that every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers - not from the target country. Tariffs are inflationary - and that's okay, if they effectively bring jobs home for workers. I'm good with paying extra.But just to prosecute petty grudges? Not so much. 

His tariffs on India are at least against a nation with which we have a trade deficit. But they are in response to India buying petro products from Russia. Trump is using tariffs not to protect American jobs, as he had promised; but rather, as a foreign policy tool, at the expense of American consumers. We MIGHT see a few pharma jobs out of these tariffs, but it's highly unlikely. We're almost certainly just going to pay literally double for generic drugs, with no benefit accruing to American workers. 

We have a trade surplus with Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, and the United Kingdom. But Trump tariffed all. It had nothing to do with trade - and the promise was that the tariffs would have everything to do with trade. 

Trump did a bait and switch. And the die-hard MAGA are not smart enough to see it. I supported tariffs. But adult tariffs.Targeted tariffs. Not tariffs against the moon. Not tariffs against the planet. EACH AND EVERY ONE of these tariffs are a tax on the American consumer. Trump is raising our taxes like it's a Christmas sale. And because tariffs are paid by the importer at landfall, Americans are not merely paying the tariffs. The importer now has an additional cash investment that must make a profit - so Americanb consumers pay well above the tariff rate. 

And I was okay with this - if it helped workers. If it was targeted. If it was against nations that were "taking advantage." If it was a TRADE TOOL. But tariffs have turned into a gun we gave a monkey - and there are no more frightening combined words in the english language than monkey and pistol. Monkey Pistol is just nota thing ya wanna hear about.

We have an orangutan spraying an automatic tariff rifle indiscriminately, with a **** eating grin on his mug.

Good of you to notice...

Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 5:34 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 5:34 am

I'm quite serious, Phil....

You should have been aborted...

Because he knows the alternative would have been a retarded cock-gobbler in the White House?

RebelGator » 08 Aug 2025, 5:48 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 5:48 am

Because he knows the alternative would have been a retarded cock-gobbler in the White House?

How many members of Biden's cabinet called Kamala a "moron", "**** moron", and "dumb as ****"?

Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 5:35 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 5:35 am

Good of you to notice...

Notice what? The false assumption about paying more taxes?

RebelGator » 08 Aug 2025, 5:56 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 5:56 am

Notice what? The false assumption about paying more taxes?

We dispensed with that nonsense.



 

Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 5:53 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 5:53 am

How many members of Biden's cabinet called Kamala a "moron", "**** moron", and "dumb as ****"?

I don't know, they were too busy calling Biden "sharp as a tack", "hard to keep up with", and a "tireless worker".....you remain a moron.

RebelGator » 08 Aug 2025, 6:00 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 6:00 am

I don't know, they were too busy calling Biden "sharp as a tack", "hard to keep up with", and a "tireless worker".....you remain a moron.

None.

How many of Grifty's appointees called him a "moron", "**** moron", "dumb as ****", "unfit"and "pedo"?
 

I'll just leave this here...

Brazil maintains a CET schedule with tariffs ranging up to 35% on imports from countries like the US.

So why aren't you LWNJ's protesting the tariffs BRAZIL imposes on US goods?? That hurts American business, effects American jobs, and prevents economic growth as much as US tariffs on Brazil ever could. NO ONE is making you buy goods from Brazil. That's YOUR CHOICE. Just like no one in Brazil is making them buy US made goods.

Heard ya went home recently.

What did your mom have to say to ya?

PhiloBeddo » 07 Aug 2025, 11:59 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 11:59 pm

You are a retard, shut up

That's harsh, bro.

True - but harsh.
 

RebelGator » 08 Aug 2025, 5:48 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 5:48 am

Because he knows the alternative would have been a retarded cock-gobbler in the White House?

It would be extremely difficult to imagine that Trump -with all of the faults I complain about - could POSSIBLY be worse than willy brown's hor. 

She's an empty pants suit. 
 

Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 5:53 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 5:53 am

How many members of Biden's cabinet called Kamala a "moron", "**** moron", and "dumb as ****"?

And risk the screeches of racism, sexism, and horafobia?

The entire world knows that if you're gonna call namesi n public, you'd best pick a white man as the object.

For that matter, how many members of Biden's cabinet alerted us that Jill was running the country? It's not like his cabinet was composed of honest statesmen. More like a bunch of self-interested lizards.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 08 Aug 2025, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 7:53 am

And risk the screeches of racism, sexism, and horafobia?

The entire world knows that if you're gonna call namesin public, you'd best pick a white man as the object.

Here's an idea..

​​​​let @CP's Battered Uvula  out of stir....

**** like that makes you look as small as you are petty.
 

RebelGator » 08 Aug 2025, 5:56 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 5:56 am

Notice what? The false assumption about paying more taxes?

If it's false, you wee slope-forehead, lay some truuf on us.

Correct the record, you midget. Show us your chops. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 08 Aug 2025, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 7:53 am

And risk the screeches of racism, sexism, and horafobia?

The entire world knows that if you're gonna call namesi n public, you'd best pick a white man as the object.

For that matter, how many members of Biden's cabinet alerted us that Jill was running the country? It's not like his cabinet was composed of honest statesmen. More like a bunch of self-interested lizards.

*Beekeeper » 08 Aug 2025, 6:37 am » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 6:37 am

I'll just leave this here...

Brazil maintains a CET schedule with tariffs ranging up to 35% on imports from countries like the US.

So why aren't you LWNJ's protesting the tariffs BRAZIL imposes on US goods?? That hurts American business, effects American jobs, and prevents economic growth as much as US tariffs on Brazil ever could. NO ONE is making you buy goods from Brazil. That's YOUR CHOICE. Just like no one in Brazil is making them buy US made goods.

The trading system in place before Bubble Boy threw it against the wall had evolved over decades. It is complicated by national security interests of all participants.

Bubble Boy never bothered to learn the details, and doesn't have the intellectual capacity to determine how it might be optimized.....now idiots are cherry picking numbers and sniveling like dumb little bitches.

Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 10:21 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 10:21 pm

Trump promised tariffs that were protectionist in nature.

His tariffs on Brazil are against a nation which has a large trade deficit with us. The purpose of the tariffs is clearly not protectionist. The purpose is punitive and unrelated to trade. And by now, it should be understood by everyone on this board that every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers - not from the target country. Tariffs are inflationary - and that's okay, if they effectively bring jobs home for workers. I'm good with paying extra.But just to prosecute petty grudges? Not so much. 

His tariffs on India are at least against a nation with which we have a trade deficit. But they are in response to India buying petro products from Russia. Trump is using tariffs not to protect American jobs, as he had promised; but rather, as a foreign policy tool, at the expense of American consumers. We MIGHT see a few pharma jobs out of these tariffs, but it's highly unlikely. We're almost certainly just going to pay literally double for generic drugs, with no benefit accruing to American workers. 

We have a trade surplus with Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, and the United Kingdom. But Trump tariffed all. It had nothing to do with trade - and the promise was that the tariffs would have everything to do with trade. 

Trump did a bait and switch. And the die-hard MAGA are not smart enough to see it. I supported tariffs. But adult tariffs.Targeted tariffs. Not tariffs against the moon. Not tariffs against the planet. EACH AND EVERY ONE of these tariffs are a tax on the American consumer. Trump is raising our taxes like it's a Christmas sale. And because tariffs are paid by the importer at landfall, Americans are not merely paying the tariffs. The importer now has an additional cash investment that must make a profit - so Americanb consumers pay well above the tariff rate. 

And I was okay with this - if it helped workers. If it was targeted. If it was against nations that were "taking advantage." If it was a TRADE TOOL. But tariffs have turned into a gun we gave a monkey - and there are no more frightening combined words in the english language than monkey and pistol. Monkey Pistol is just nota thing ya wanna hear about.

We have an orangutan spraying an automatic tariff rifle indiscriminately, with a **** eating grin on his mug.

The goal was always to pay the interest on the national debt (accrued via Tiny Hats printing the money and loaning it out to govt). 

Tariffs and Donnie were always the back door vehicle. Americans have been squeezed by Tiny Hat induced inflation and high income / high state taxes, so there’s nothing left to tax besides…yep, you guessed it, consumption.

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