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Why Trumps Tariffs are a Broken Promise
Why Trumps Tariffs are a Broken Promise
By Cannonpointer
7 Aug 2025 10:21 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
8 Aug 2025 10:25 am
You just proved that you don't know anything abot bls methodology, and can't be edified.*Beekeeper » 08 Aug 2025, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑ Well, that's a refreshing admission that YOU HAVE NOTHING and can only attempt to insult rather than actually present anything to support your BS claims!!
8 Aug 2025 11:44 am
Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 10:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump promised tariffs that were protectionist in nature.
His tariffs on Brazil are against a nation which has a large trade deficit with us. The purpose of the tariffs is clearly not protectionist. The purpose is punitive and unrelated to trade. And by now, it should be understood by everyone on this board that every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers - not from the target country. Tariffs are inflationary - and that's okay, if they effectively bring jobs home for workers. I'm good with paying extra.But just to prosecute petty grudges? Not so much.
His tariffs on India are at least against a nation with which we have a trade deficit. But they are in response to India buying petro products from Russia. Trump is using tariffs not to protect American jobs, as he had promised; but rather, as a foreign policy tool, at the expense of American consumers. We MIGHT see a few pharma jobs out of these tariffs, but it's highly unlikely. We're almost certainly just going to pay literally double for generic drugs, with no benefit accruing to American workers.
We have a trade surplus with Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, and the United Kingdom. But Trump tariffed all. It had nothing to do with trade - and the promise was that the tariffs would have everything to do with trade.
Trump did a bait and switch. And the die-hard MAGA are not smart enough to see it. I supported tariffs. But adult tariffs.Targeted tariffs. Not tariffs against the moon. Not tariffs against the planet. EACH AND EVERY ONE of these tariffs are a tax on the American consumer. Trump is raising our taxes like it's a Christmas sale. And because tariffs are paid by the importer at landfall, Americans are not merely paying the tariffs. The importer now has an additional cash investment that must make a profit - so Americanb consumers pay well above the tariff rate.
And I was okay with this - if it helped workers. If it was targeted. If it was against nations that were "taking advantage." If it was a TRADE TOOL. But tariffs have turned into a gun we gave a monkey - and there are no more frightening combined words in the english language than monkey and pistol. Monkey Pistol is just nota thing ya wanna hear about.
We have an orangutan spraying an automatic tariff rifle indiscriminately, with a **** eating grin on his mug.
the rise in drugs will be hard on americans, not other countries. and hard on americans making less than 50,000 a year so trump does not care.
8 Aug 2025 11:54 am
LowIQTrash » 08 Aug 2025, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑ The goal was always to pay the interest on the national debt (accrued via Tiny Hats printing the money and loaning it out to govt).
Tariffs and Donnie were always the back door vehicle. Americans have been squeezed by Tiny Hat induced inflation and high income / high state taxes, so there’s nothing left to tax besides…yep, you guessed it, consumption.
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Zion Don said the Democrats overtax Americans, and now we have across the board tariffs.
Zion Don said the Democrats want a CBDC, and now we have stablecoins.
Zion Don said the Democrats want to destroy free speech, and now we have anti-Semitic laws in place.
Zion Don said the Democrats want illegal immigration to suppress wages, and now we have “temporary” (snicker) measures in place so Big Ag (Tyson, Sysco) can retain their meat packing labor.
Zion Don said Democrats support giving your private data to big tech corporations - we now have Palantir creating a database of all Americans.
Zion Don said he would release the Epstein files…
trump has always been for free speech as long as he is said to be a god......
8 Aug 2025 1:08 pm
They're a series of broken promises...Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 10:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump promised tariffs that were protectionist in nature.
His tariffs on Brazil are against a nation which has a large trade deficit with us. The purpose of the tariffs is clearly not protectionist. The purpose is punitive and unrelated to trade. And by now, it should be understood by everyone on this board that every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers - not from the target country. Tariffs are inflationary - and that's okay, if they effectively bring jobs home for workers. I'm good with paying extra.But just to prosecute petty grudges? Not so much.
His tariffs on India are at least against a nation with which we have a trade deficit. But they are in response to India buying petro products from Russia. Trump is using tariffs not to protect American jobs, as he had promised; but rather, as a foreign policy tool, at the expense of American consumers. We MIGHT see a few pharma jobs out of these tariffs, but it's highly unlikely. We're almost certainly just going to pay literally double for generic drugs, with no benefit accruing to American workers.
We have a trade surplus with Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, and the United Kingdom. But Trump tariffed all. It had nothing to do with trade - and the promise was that the tariffs would have everything to do with trade.
Trump did a bait and switch. And the die-hard MAGA are not smart enough to see it. I supported tariffs. But adult tariffs.Targeted tariffs. Not tariffs against the moon. Not tariffs against the planet. EACH AND EVERY ONE of these tariffs are a tax on the American consumer. Trump is raising our taxes like it's a Christmas sale. And because tariffs are paid by the importer at landfall, Americans are not merely paying the tariffs. The importer now has an additional cash investment that must make a profit - so Americanb consumers pay well above the tariff rate.
And I was okay with this - if it helped workers. If it was targeted. If it was against nations that were "taking advantage." If it was a TRADE TOOL. But tariffs have turned into a gun we gave a monkey - and there are no more frightening combined words in the english language than monkey and pistol. Monkey Pistol is just nota thing ya wanna hear about.
We have an orangutan spraying an automatic tariff rifle indiscriminately, with a **** eating grin on his mug.
8 Aug 2025 1:48 pm
You can't make such an absurd statement as, "every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers" when that is patently false! You have no ideal yet how much of the Trump tariffs will be paid by the foreign countries yet, and that won't shake out for at least another year when price competition begins to eat away at their US sales, as well as how much of an impact that the relocation of hundreds of US businesses coming BACK TO THE US will hurt their sales.Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 10:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump promised tariffs that were protectionist in nature.
His tariffs on Brazil are against a nation which has a large trade deficit with us. The purpose of the tariffs is clearly not protectionist. The purpose is punitive and unrelated to trade. And by now, it should be understood by everyone on this board that every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers - not from the target country. Tariffs are inflationary - and that's okay, if they effectively bring jobs home for workers. I'm good with paying extra.But just to prosecute petty grudges? Not so much.
His tariffs on India are at least against a nation with which we have a trade deficit. But they are in response to India buying petro products from Russia. Trump is using tariffs not to protect American jobs, as he had promised; but rather, as a foreign policy tool, at the expense of American consumers. We MIGHT see a few pharma jobs out of these tariffs, but it's highly unlikely. We're almost certainly just going to pay literally double for generic drugs, with no benefit accruing to American workers.
We have a trade surplus with Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, and the United Kingdom. But Trump tariffed all. It had nothing to do with trade - and the promise was that the tariffs would have everything to do with trade.
Trump did a bait and switch. And the die-hard MAGA are not smart enough to see it. I supported tariffs. But adult tariffs.Targeted tariffs. Not tariffs against the moon. Not tariffs against the planet. EACH AND EVERY ONE of these tariffs are a tax on the American consumer. Trump is raising our taxes like it's a Christmas sale. And because tariffs are paid by the importer at landfall, Americans are not merely paying the tariffs. The importer now has an additional cash investment that must make a profit - so Americanb consumers pay well above the tariff rate.
And I was okay with this - if it helped workers. If it was targeted. If it was against nations that were "taking advantage." If it was a TRADE TOOL. But tariffs have turned into a gun we gave a monkey - and there are no more frightening combined words in the english language than monkey and pistol. Monkey Pistol is just nota thing ya wanna hear about.
We have an orangutan spraying an automatic tariff rifle indiscriminately, with a **** eating grin on his mug.
Understandably, it takes a bit longer for economic dullards like yourself to withhold your criticism of the policy until it fully takes affect.
Blame your own limited education for your knee-jerk reaction in how a business operates that you fail to understand.
Got that, Chicken Little?
8 Aug 2025 3:37 pm
Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 10:25 am » wrote: ↑ You just proved that you don't know anything abot bls methodology, and can't be edified.
Still got nothing huh??
Keep trolling!! Sooner or later you'll find an acorn or something like that.
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The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
8 Aug 2025 4:20 pm
Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2025, 1:48 pm » wrote: ↑ You can't make such an absurd statement as, "every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers" when that is patently false! You have no ideal yet how much of the Trump tariffs will be paid by the foreign countries yet, and that won't shake out for at least another year when price competition begins to eat away at their US sales, as well as how much of an impact that the relocation of hundreds of US businesses coming BACK TO THE US will hurt their sales.
Understandably, it takes a bit longer for economic dullards like yourself to withhold your criticism of the policy until it fully takes affect.
Blame your own limited education for your knee-jerk reaction in how a business operates that you fail to understand.
Got that, Chicken Little?
“You have no ideal yet how much of the Trump tariffs will be paid by the foreign countries yet, and that won't shake out for at least another year ”stupid as this is
at least you are admitting that Americans will pay a higher price for “at least another year”
tRump even said “there might be a little pain”
at least tRump put tariffs on those **** penguins
am I right?
TDS goes both ways
8 Aug 2025 4:34 pm
Zeets2 thinks everything is instantaneous. Like a Big Mac at the drive thru.Mrkelly » 08 Aug 2025, 4:20 pm » wrote: ↑
stupid as this is
at least you are admitting that Americans will pay a higher price for “at least another year”
tRump even said “there might be a little pain”
at least tRump put tariffs on those **** penguins
am I right?
TDS goes both ways
He said Biden tripled the price of gas. I have been paying around 325 a gallon for years with some ups and downs.
He can;t even see his own confirmation bias for the tree that is about to fall on MAGA in Nov 2026. Will it make a sound?
Brewskies and Buds on the Veranda.. I am hoping Thomas Jefferson stops by. 80f.. Nice
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8 Aug 2025 4:38 pm
You were busted.*Beekeeper » 08 Aug 2025, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑ Still got nothing huh??
Keep trolling!! Sooner or later you'll find an acorn or something like that.
.Bad.
8 Aug 2025 4:58 pm
With THOSE feet you have THAT mouth???Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑ The former is both literal and figurative.
It's not about you.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Aug 2025 4:59 pm
Extortion is like, "I'll shoot you if you don't."Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 9:25 am » wrote: ↑ Because "Deal Making" isn’t exclusive of extortion....in the service of feefees...
He's ust shooting - there is no if you don't.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Aug 2025 5:09 pm
He wants Bolsonaro off the hook.Cannonpointer » 08 Aug 2025, 4:59 pm » wrote: ↑ Extortion is like, "I'll shoot you if you don't."
He's ust shooting - there is no if you don't.
If he's convicted, it will look bad for our First Felon Rapist Traitor.
8 Aug 2025 5:10 pm
They're fast, and land with bone crushing force....
mg:Why do you ask?
8 Aug 2025 5:10 pm
What table? Where's the table? Who headed our trade delegation to Brazil?*Beekeeper » 08 Aug 2025, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑ Countries have had more than 6 months to come to the table to negotiate trade deals.
The US and Brazil had a trade agreement in place that both nations were satisfied with formany years. TRUMP was satisfied with it throughout his entire first term. The nation abrogating a treaty has a duty to make a **** phone call instead of just screeching about it to the international press.Get **** real.
You homos used to callme a comnist for **** on free trade.*Beekeeper » 08 Aug 2025, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑ Some decided to do so. Those that haven't, get the tarriff increases. Call it wantever you want, it's a strategy that has been working, far better than anything the left or any other "right" administration has done. Free trade is a pipe dream when the OTHER side we trade with has barriers in place when we don't. Brazil is far from a developing nation. They have been around since the Portuguese took over as a trade post. Whatever you might claim isn't supported by the facts.
That is a ridiculous rationalization for a tantrum. The responsible and adult thing to do is give notice before you abrogate a treaty. Other nations need to know that our word means something.*Beekeeper » 08 Aug 2025, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑ Trump IS making deals, but when the players to the deal making on THE OTHER SIDE likes the "status quo", you upset that "status quo" to get them to sit down and do a deal. NO ONE is going to "make a deal" until THEIR comfort level is disrupted to the point they have to. YOU won't leave that comfy chair of yours UNTIL a spring breaks and pokes you in the ***. Neither do nations that don't have any reason to get up and go negotiate.
Let me guess - 5D chess, right?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Aug 2025 5:14 pm
BTW, I notice that you ran about banning me from all your threads celebrating the Grifty economy...*Beekeeper » 08 Aug 2025, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑ Still got nothing huh??
Keep trolling!! Sooner or later you'll find an acorn or something like that.
:rofl:
8 Aug 2025 5:16 pm
No.ROG62 » 08 Aug 2025, 9:37 am » wrote: ↑ You are correct as I'm not sure what's happening with Brazil and the India thing is wrong...
the EU, however, as a conglomerate, applies a VAT tax to everything ranging from 17% to 27%...it's and automatic built in tariff...
The MEMBER STATES have VAT taxes - not the EU.
The EU does not lay or collect taxes. It gets it's money from member states.
And locally produced goods get the VAT, as well - so by definition it is NOT a tariff.
No one needs to prove the obvious. That's just silly. Can you prove that all income taxes come from income?ROG62 » 08 Aug 2025, 9:37 am » wrote: ↑ BTW, no one has proven that every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers...NO ONE!
Prove it. Prove that income taxes come from income - you can't.
Are you aware of another payer of excise taxes? Name that payer. Is it santy claws?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Aug 2025 5:20 pm
So THEY came HERE. And Trump just **** one em. Through the global media.ROG62 » 08 Aug 2025, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑ In May, Brazilian Finance Minister Fernando Haddad met with US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent in Los Angeles. Although the meeting was private, Haddad later told reporters that one of the main objectives in his engagement with the US government was to negotiate tariffs based on the premise that the United States has historically run trade surpluses with Brazil, and with South America more broadly. Since Trump’s announcement last week, Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, too, has underscored the US trade surplus in his public comments.
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/n ... rtnership/
Clowning.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Aug 2025 5:29 pm
You're retarded.Zeets2 » 08 Aug 2025, 1:48 pm » wrote: ↑ You can't make such an absurd statement as, "every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers" when that is patently false! You have no ideal yet how much of the Trump tariffs will be paid by the foreign countries yet,
Importers must pay the tariffs at landfall, in order to get the goods through customs.
They then pass on both the tariff costs, and a profit on those prepaid costs.
Have you ever heard of google?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Aug 2025 5:37 pm
Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 5:10 pm » wrote: ↑ They're fast, and land with bone crushing force....
Why do you ask?
I would crush you in about 3 seconds.
I have already visualized it - which is part of my technique.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
8 Aug 2025 5:39 pm
It's the alpha and omega of your technique.Cannonpointer » 08 Aug 2025, 5:37 pm » wrote: ↑
I would crush you in about 3 seconds.
I have already visualized it - which is part of my technique.
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