Why Trumps Tariffs are a Broken Promise

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Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 10:00 am » wrote: What about it concerns you?
see what I bolded in CP's post... :roll:  
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: Speaks volumes & triggers the living **** out of you....

Win/win.
the only "volumes it speaks" is of your ultra gullible mental midgetry...

uh, newsflash, no one's triggered... :roll:   :roll:  
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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Cannonpointer » 08 Aug 2025, 5:20 pm » wrote: So THEY came HERE. And Trump just **** one em. Through the global media. 

Clowning.
I never said it was right... :ninja:   :wave:  
 
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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Cannonpointer » 08 Aug 2025, 5:16 pm » wrote: No.

The MEMBER STATES have VAT taxes - not the EU.

The EU does not lay or collect taxes. It gets it's money from member states.

And locally produced goods get the VAT, as well - so by definition it is NOT a tariff.

No one needs to prove the obvious. That's just silly. Can you prove that all income taxes come from income?

Prove it. Prove that income taxes come from income - you can't.

Are you aware of another payer of excise taxes? Name that payer. Is it santy claws?
The VAT contributes roughly 7.5 percent of the total revenue for the European Union, with member states contributing a standardized 0.3% of their total VAT income to the EU budget as VAT-based resources.


they wouldn't be labeled "income taxes" if they weren't, right?
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 5:39 pm » wrote: It's the alpha and omega of your technique.
How do you know this? Are you familiar with Yu Tu Fat?
 
 
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ROG62 » 08 Aug 2025, 6:24 pm » wrote: The VAT contributes roughly 7.5 percent of the total revenue for the European Union, with member states contributing a standardized 0.3% of their total VAT income to the EU budget as VAT-based resources.
The member states kick - the EU neither lays nor collects taxes. They get paid FROM VAT taxes.By the member states.
ROG62 » 08 Aug 2025, 6:24 pm » wrote: they wouldn't be labeled "income taxes" if they weren't, right?
They COULD be. Bruce Jenner is called a woman - does that make him one?

You haven't proved it.
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 10:21 pm » wrote: Trump promised tariffs that were protectionist in nature.

His tariffs on Brazil are against a nation which has a large trade deficit with us. The purpose of the tariffs is clearly not protectionist. The purpose is punitive and unrelated to trade. And by now, it should be understood by everyone on this board that every penny of every tariff comes from the pockets of American consumers - not from the target country. Tariffs are inflationary - and that's okay, if they effectively bring jobs home for workers. I'm good with paying extra.But just to prosecute petty grudges? Not so much. 

His tariffs on India are at least against a nation with which we have a trade deficit. But they are in response to India buying petro products from Russia. Trump is using tariffs not to protect American jobs, as he had promised; but rather, as a foreign policy tool, at the expense of American consumers. We MIGHT see a few pharma jobs out of these tariffs, but it's highly unlikely. We're almost certainly just going to pay literally double for generic drugs, with no benefit accruing to American workers. 

We have a trade surplus with Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, and the United Kingdom. But Trump tariffed all. It had nothing to do with trade - and the promise was that the tariffs would have everything to do with trade. 

Trump did a bait and switch. And the die-hard MAGA are not smart enough to see it. I supported tariffs. But adult tariffs.Targeted tariffs. Not tariffs against the moon. Not tariffs against the planet. EACH AND EVERY ONE of these tariffs are a tax on the American consumer. Trump is raising our taxes like it's a Christmas sale. And because tariffs are paid by the importer at landfall, Americans are not merely paying the tariffs. The importer now has an additional cash investment that must make a profit - so Americanb consumers pay well above the tariff rate. 

And I was okay with this - if it helped workers. If it was targeted. If it was against nations that were "taking advantage." If it was a TRADE TOOL. But tariffs have turned into a gun we gave a monkey - and there are no more frightening combined words in the english language than monkey and pistol. Monkey Pistol is just nota thing ya wanna hear about.

We have an orangutan spraying an automatic tariff rifle indiscriminately, with a **** eating grin on his mug.
I remember the Baffin Islands or somewhere.

More Penguins than people lived on those Islands yet 50 percent Tarriffs
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Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 5:14 pm » wrote: BTW, I notice that you ran about banning me from all your threads celebrating the Grifty economy...

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If you acted stupid and did your usual "Mr. Malignant" change the topic shuffle, of course you'll be banned. Learn to stay on topic. You aren't the most important one here.
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Blackvegetable » 08 Aug 2025, 4:38 pm » wrote: You were busted.
.Bad.

You couldn't bust a 2 year old with a day long sucker.

But enjoy thinking you are. I bet that looked really good in your head, huh??
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You are dumb @Deezer Shoove  

You claim Sole's girl has no soul

You sell yours, mine, and everyone's on this rag

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JohnnyYou » 08 Aug 2025, 9:01 pm » wrote: You are dumb
You claim Sole's girl has no soul

You sell yours, mine, and everyone's on this rag

youtu.be/diYAc7gB-0A?si=CSdcrvxIMikAJNe1

Funny stuff.
You are so wedded to the site that you claim hates you.
Your soul is in question, not mine.

Why bother showing up when you aren't appreciated? :rofl:  
...while claiming I'm in league with the LiberalForum demons.
Go shrink your head, dude.

Make mountains out of molehills much? :drool:  
Please seat yourself.

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DeezerShoove » 09 Aug 2025, 9:04 pm » wrote: Funny stuff.
You are so wedded to the site that you claim hates you.
Your soul is in question, not mine.

Why bother showing up when you aren't appreciated? Image  
...while claiming I'm in league with the LiberalForum demons.
Go shrink your head, dude.

Make mountains out of molehills much? Image

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JohnnyYou » 09 Aug 2025, 9:15 pm » wrote: teacher taught me this was from 2014

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Post like an adult so I have some idea of what you're babbling about.
You do this incoherent phrase with a non-working link...
Make me work and ultimately get nothing for the effort? Nah. G'bye.
Please seat yourself.

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DeezerShoove » 09 Aug 2025, 9:30 pm » wrote: Post like an adult so I have some idea of what you're babbling about.
You do this incoherent phrase with a non-working link...
Make me work and ultimately get nothing for the effort? Nah. G'bye.

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DeezerShoove » 09 Aug 2025, 9:04 pm » wrote: Funny stuff.
You are so wedded to the site that you claim hates you.

 
In fairness, he's on to something. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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JohnnyYou » 09 Aug 2025, 9:15 pm » wrote: teacher taught me this was from 2014

youtube /watch?v=gwgfeR2pMuE
2013, actually. 

That's when we started the board.

Back then, we had competition. 

Now we don't.  :ninja:  
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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