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*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 10:39 am

Well, it doesn't matter what google AI says.  What matters is what NY State law said was rape at the time and the fact Kaplan instructed the jury to use that definition.

Nice try.

It doesn't matter...

To understand why, post the jury's verdict.

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 10:42 am

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 10:39 am

Well, it doesn't matter what google AI says.  What matters is what NY State law said was rape at the time and the fact Kaplan instructed the jury to use that definition.

Nice try.

It doesn't matter...

To understand why, post the jury's verdict.

 

1.  I have posted it numerous times.  Not doing it again.  If you are smart you can use the search function and find it or google it like a man would.  Like many of us have on numerous occasions.  Damn, you are one spoiled little princess.

2. You do not have question privileges because you refuse to agree to conditions that are fair to both parties.

Let me know when you do.  Any further repeat questions will go to PG.

Mrkelly » 09 Aug 2025, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 10:23 am

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 9:32 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 9:32 am

The Essence of NotReading...

In fact, he later upheld the verdict and denied Trump's motion for a new trial

I asked AI  “ is sexual abuse a form of rape”

it said “An AI Overview is not available for this search”   

 

 

That is the wrong question.  This is the question you should have asked:

What was the definition of rape in NY State

And this is one of the hits google would give you:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/n ... %20Tuesday.


The state’s current limited definition was a factor in writer E. Jean Carroll’s sexual abuse and defamation case against former President Donald Trump. The jury in the federal civil trial rejected the writer’s claim last May that Trump had raped her in the 1990s, instead finding the former president responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse.The current law defines rape as vaginal penetration by a penis. 

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 10:56 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 10:56 am

That is the wrong question.  This is the question you should have asked:

What was the definition of rape in NY State

And this is one of the hits google would give you:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/n ... %20Tuesday.

The state’s current limited definition was a factor in writer E. Jean Carroll’s sexual abuse and defamation case against former President Donald Trump. The jury in the federal civil trial rejected the writer’s claim last May that Trump had raped her in the 1990s, instead finding the former president responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse.The current law defines rape as vaginal penetration by a penis.

  I did just that

“What was the definition of rape in NY State”

not sure why all the extra jumbo 

AI Overview
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In New York, the definition of rape has been expanded to include various forms of non-consensual sexual contact, not just vaginal intercourse. Specifically, the "Rape is Rape" Act expands the definition to encompass oral and anal sexual contact, in addition to vaginal penetration, when such contact occurs without consent. Furthermore, the law includes scenarios where the victim is incapable of consenting due to factors like physical helplessness or age
 
 

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 8:44 am

Google AI

Judge Lewis A. Kaplan presided over the E. Jean Carroll defamation trial against Donald Trump where a jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation, awarding Carroll $5 million in damages
. 
Judge Kaplan did not overturn the jury's verdict in that case. In fact, he later upheld the verdict and denied Trump's motion for a new trial. 
It's important to note that a judge can overturn a jury's verdict in certain specific circumstances, such as if there wasn't enough evidence to support the verdict or if there were errors during the trial that prejudiced the outcome. However, this is relatively rare. 
In this particular case, Judge Kaplan not only upheld the jury's verdict but also, in a later, separate trial determining damages for a different defamatory statement, ruled that Trump was precluded from arguing that he did not sexually assault Ms. Carroll, leaving only the issue of damages to be decided by the jury. 

And that is all there is to say about that.

If I cvould that judge would get some jail time.

Mrkelly » 09 Aug 2025, 11:18 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 11:18 am

  I did just that

“What was the definition of rape in NY State”

AI Overview

In New York, the definition of rape has been expanded to include various forms of non-consensual sexual contact, not just vaginal intercourse. Specifically, the "Rape is Rape" Act expands the definition to encompass oral and anal sexual contact, in addition to vaginal penetration, when such contact occurs without consent. Furthermore, the law includes scenarios where the victim is incapable of consenting due to factors like physical helplessness or age

Learn to copy and paste.

No **** sherlock.  I just posted the same info. What else ya got?  You have to go by the definition of rape when the actual assault happened.  At the time it happened the definition was rape was penetration by the penis.

 

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 9:15 am

No one has ever claimed that Kaplan "overturned" the jury’s verdict....

This is why morons must NEVER play with AI...

Here's another reason.

The cretinous OP has not only been directed to the full text of Judge Kaplan's filing, but he has been repeatedly invited to confirm what obliged it. While refusing to do so on some principle unarticulated, said cretinous OP delegates the task of reading it to AI.

Had COP bothered to read it, he would be "educated" on the topic of the "special verdict" the idiot labors, but doesn't understand. 

It is important to note that COP is only law, and reading, proximate.

Or yer totally full of **** like you usually are.     

Mrkelly » 09 Aug 2025, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 10:23 am

I asked AI  “ is sexual abuse a form of rape”

it said “An AI Overview is not available for this search” 

I typed it in and it gave me this: 

Yes, sexual abuse can be a form of rape, but it's important to understand that not all sexual abuse is categorized as rape. Sexual abuse refers to a wide range of non-consensual sexual activities, which can include rape but also encompasses other behaviors like molestation, harassment, or exploitation.Rape, specifically, refers to any form of sexual penetration without consent. Sexual abuse can be a broader term that includes various kinds of unwanted sexual contact or coercion, and rape is considered one of the most severe forms of sexual abuse.

 

roadkill » 09 Aug 2025, 11:24 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 11:24 am

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 9:15 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 9:15 am

No one has ever claimed that Kaplan "overturned" the jury’s verdict....

This is why morons must NEVER play with AI...

Here's another reason.

The cretinous OP has not only been directed to the full text of Judge Kaplan's filing, but he has been repeatedly invited to confirm what obliged it. While refusing to do so on some principle unarticulated, said cretinous OP delegates the task of reading it to AI.

Had COP bothered to read it, he would be "educated" on the topic of the "special verdict" the idiot labors, but doesn't understand. 

It is important to note that COP is only law, and reading, proximate.

Or yer totally full of **** like you usually are.   

Our resident alleged Ivy Leaguer is not quite smart enough to grasp the fact that if Kaplan DID NOT overturn the jury verdict then the jury verdict stands and a far as the state of NY is concerned Trump was NOT found liable for rape.

Plus, what the Legacy Admission never wants to talk about is the burden of proof is much lower in a civil trial as opposed to a criminal trial.

And why dd she let him in the dressing room?
 

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 9:32 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 9:32 am

The Essence of NotReading...

In fact, he later upheld the verdict and denied Trump's motion for a new trial

When it came to the question of "did Trump rape Carroll", what was that verdict??

Seeing how you JUST CLAIMED that Kaplan UPHELD IT!!

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 10:42 am

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 10:39 am

Well, it doesn't matter what google AI says.  What matters is what NY State law said was rape at the time and the fact Kaplan instructed the jury to use that definition.

Nice try.

It doesn't matter...

To understand why, post the jury's verdict.

 

It took me about 35 seconds to find with the search function.

Less than with google.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 11:38 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 11:38 am

Our resident alleged Ivy Leaguer is not quite smart enough to grasp the fact that if Kaplan DID NOT overturn the jury verdict then the jury verdict stands and a far as the state of NY is concerned Trump was found liable for rape.

Plus, what the Legacy Admission never wants to talk about is the burden of proof is much lower in a civil trial as opposed to a criminal trial.

And why dd she let him in the dressing room?

It never happened...she's lying.

This was a kangaroo trial by a corrupt judge, jury, and the liars lawyer.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 11:23 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 11:23 am

Learn to copy and paste.

No **** sherlock.  I just posted the same info. What else ya got?  You have to go by the definition of rape when the actual assault happened.  At the time it happened the definition was rape was penetration by the penis.

  so tRump dodged that bullet ?

Mrkelly » 09 Aug 2025, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 12:21 pm

  so tRump dodged that bullet ?

I would like to know why she invited him into a dressing room.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 11:44 am

It took me about 35 seconds to find with the search function.

Less than with google.

Then post it.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 12:23 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 12:23 pm

I would like to know why she invited him into a dressing room.

  She was clearly asking for it
 

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 12:31 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 12:31 pm

Then post it.

Not my job.  Your case, you do the work.  I have enough times MYSELF.  Remeber, I told you I don’t repeats because you can’t remember and your lazy.

Mrkelly » 09 Aug 2025, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 12:32 pm

  She was clearly asking for it

I wasn’t going to go there.  

*Huey » Today, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:51 am

1.  I have posted it numerous times.  Not doing it again.  If you are smart you can use the search function and find it or google it like a man would.  Like many of us have on numerous occasions.  Damn, you are one spoiled little princess.

2. You do not have question privileges because you refuse to agree to conditions that are fair to both parties.

Let me know when you do.  Any further repeat questions will go to PG.
 

1. No, you haven't. You're lying. 

2. You're a lying coward....You invited this epic pasting - stand by it.

 Any further repeat questions will go to PG.

If you assert ****, you shouldn't expect to go unchallenged.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 12:33 pm

Not my job.  Your case, you do the work.  I have enough times MYSELF.  Remeber, I told you I don’t repeats because you can’t remember and your lazy.

I just reposted the link you demanded, Coward.

Now post the verdict to which you refer in the OP.