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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy defiantly declared Saturday that his countrymen “will not give their land to occupiers,” after President Donald Trump suggested that a peace deal would include some “swapping” of territories with Russia.

jerrab » 09 Aug 2025, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 5:54 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/ukraine/z ... rcna224022

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy defiantly declared Saturday that his countrymen “will not give their land to occupiers,” after President Donald Trump suggested that a peace deal would include some “swapping” of territories with Russia.

yes and this should have ended in may but trump got dollar signs in his eyes and instead of trying to bring peace he made a financial deal.

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• Potential Benefits for Ukraine:
  The deal is seen as a way for Ukraine to rebuild its economy, modernize its military, and potentially secure its future against Russian aggression. 

• The deal emerged from months of negotiations between the two countries, with the U.S. seeking access to Ukraine's mineral wealth and Ukraine seeking continued U.S. support. 

jerrab » 09 Aug 2025, 5:54 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 5:54 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/ukraine/z ... rcna224022

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy defiantly declared Saturday that his countrymen “will not give their land to occupiers,” after President Donald Trump suggested that a peace deal would include some “swapping” of territories with Russia.

And what if Russia rejects it….

I guess you didn’t think that far ahead.

*Huey » 10 Aug 2025, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2025, 10:20 am

And what if Russia rejects it….

I guess you didn’t think that far ahead.

Russia won’t reject it

they will get what they want
 

*Huey » 10 Aug 2025, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2025, 10:20 am

And what if Russia rejects it….

I guess you didn’t think that far ahead.

what if ukraine rejects it?

and if nato insists ukraine can join nato then nato can support ukraine.

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*Huey » 10 Aug 2025, 10:20 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2025, 10:20 am

And what if Russia rejects it….

I guess you didn’t think that far ahead.

what if ukraine rejects it?

and if nato insists ukraine can join nato then nato can support ukraine.

 

And if the money grew on trees we would all be rich.  But then again bread would cost 750 a loaf.

jerrab » 10 Aug 2025, 10:09 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2025, 10:09 am

yes and this should have ended in may but trump got dollar signs in his eyes and instead of trying to bring peace he made a financial deal.

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• Potential Benefits for Ukraine:
  The deal is seen as a way for Ukraine to rebuild its economy, modernize its military, and potentially secure its future against Russian aggression. 

• The deal emerged from months of negotiations between the two countries, with the U.S. seeking access to Ukraine's mineral wealth and Ukraine seeking continued U.S. support. 

I don't think that we should have gotten involved in the first place. However, if Russia takes Ukraine, then they would make it difficult for the UN Charter and other treatise to enforce Russia's ownership over them. There will be sanctions implemented, but I think between Russia, China, and the NGOs, they would circumvent the UN treatises, and profit heavily. They have a history of not caring about international laws. 

Vegas » 10 Aug 2025, 3:48 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2025, 3:48 pm

I don't think that we should have gotten involved in the first place. However, if Russia takes Ukraine, then they would make it difficult for the UN Charter and other treatise to enforce Russia's ownership over them. There will be sanctions implemented, but I think between Russia, China, and the NGOs, they would circumvent the UN treatises, and profit heavily. They have a history of not caring about international laws.

instead signing the mineral deal with ukraine trump should have told ukraine they can't join nato which ukraine cant join anyway. that may have stopped the war back then.
 

jerrab » 11 Aug 2025, 5:10 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2025, 5:10 pm

instead signing the mineral deal with ukraine trump should have told ukraine they can't nato which ukraine cant join anyway. that may have stopped the war back then.

https://youtu.be/MgShN8V5dW0?si=cLJTpUAqdmaSEOpi

trump did not follow thru.
 

jerrab » 10 Aug 2025, 1:19 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2025, 1:19 pm

what if ukraine rejects it?

and if nato insists ukraine can join nato then nato can support ukraine.

Not this **** again....

*Huey » 10 Aug 2025, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2025, 1:20 pm

And if the money grew on trees we would all be rich.  But then again bread would cost 750 a loaf.

Loaf store bread 250/350 nowadays.

Gosh
 

Mrkelly » 10 Aug 2025, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

10 Aug 2025, 10:22 am

Russia won’t reject it

they will get what they want

why?

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