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Suck it BV.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/21/us-news/t ... als-court/

Something you have heard before:

Judge Peter Moulton called the size of the penalty “troubling” and questioned if the law James had used to sue Trump — which doesn’t technically require someone to be “harmed” — had “morphed into something it was not meant to do.”
 

*Huey » 21 Aug 2025, 10:52 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 10:52 am

Suck it BV.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/21/us-news/t ... als-court/

Something you have heard before:

Judge Peter Moulton called the size of the penalty “troubling” and questioned if the law James had used to sue Trump — which doesn’t technically require someone to be “harmed” — had “morphed into something it was not meant to do.”

Good post. If a law is applied beyond its original intent, it stops being justice and starts being weaponized. That should worry everyone, not just Trump. Just think if the judge had the same level of TDS as Veghead. 

That bitch slap had to sting!

Fuelman » 21 Aug 2025, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 11:03 am

That bitch slap had to sting!

You know how I'm ALWAYS telling you that your media sucks....

"The documentary evidence supports Supreme Court's conclusion that the Attorney General made a prima facie showing that each defendant participated in the fraudulent scheme," the opinion said. "The trial record is also replete with evidence supporting the court's determination that the individual defendants had the requisite intent to defraud, a necessary element of each Penal Law claim."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/appeals-court ... =124848691

Blackvegetable » 21 Aug 2025, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 11:10 am

Fuelman » 21 Aug 2025, 11:03 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 11:03 am

That bitch slap had to sting!

You know how I'm ALWAYS telling you that your media sucks....

"The documentary evidence supports Supreme Court's conclusion that the Attorney General made a prima facie showing that each defendant participated in the fraudulent scheme," the opinion said. "The trial record is also replete with evidence supporting the court's determination that the individual defendants had the requisite intent to defraud, a necessary element of each Penal Law claim."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/appeals-court ... =124848691

 

The most important part of your source:Appeals court throws out Trump's $454 million civil fraud judgmentThe rest of is fluff.

Blackvegetable » 21 Aug 2025, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 11:10 am

You know how I'm ALWAYS telling you that your media sucks....

"The documentary evidence supports Supreme Court's conclusion that the Attorney General made a prima facie showing that each defendant participated in the fraudulent scheme," the opinion said. "The trial record is also replete with evidence supporting the court's determination that the individual defendants had the requisite intent to defraud, a necessary element of each Penal Law claim."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/appeals-court ... =124848691

Yes, your media does suck. Glad you agree. Anyway: 

Copy-pasting from ABC doesn’t change the core issue Judge Moulton raised: intent to defraud is one thing, but a law that doesn’t require proof of harm is another , you moron. That’s the overreach he addressed, punishment without demonstrated injury to anyone. **** abc. You proved my media comment again.  Legal quotes can sound impressive, but they don’t erase the fact that stretching laws beyond their intent undermines fairness and sets a dangerous precedent.  

Now shut up. 

Here is a question for you to evade: 

Do you believe laws should be able to punish people even when no one was actually harmed—or are you just content letting a legal system morph into something it was never meant to be?

1. You will evade with a question/demand of your own while leave mine unanswered. Same **** MO. 

Alleged Mortgage FraudJames is accused of misrepresenting property details to obtain favorable mortgage terms:

• Brooklyn Property: Allegedly listed a five-unit building as a four-unit one across multiple transactions, allowing her to qualify for federal housing relief.
• Virginia Property: Claimed it as her “principal residence” while serving as New York AG, which may have violated residency and disclosure rules.
• False Identity Claims: In one early mortgage document, she and her father reportedly identified themselves as “husband and wife” rather than “father and daughter”.   
  
  This NB's day is arriving. 

 

Impeach that bitch and make NY pay all Trump's legal fees.

**** her another Trump win!

So, the FINE has been thrown out... and even though Trump was convicted (by a CORRUPT NY state Jury)... the legal team was NOT BRAVE enough to actually sentence trump (because the trial could then be appealed)... and THAT would lead to it's being TOSSED, Just like the FINE just was !!

AND NOW... with Leticia James ALSO being investigated for Real Estate fraud (but the evidence her case is ALREADY DAMNING... and bordering on a SLAM DUNK case... I think Leticia is in a WORLD of HURT !!  A NY Attorney General, attacking and legally prosecuting a popular Political icon, and now President of the United States, for violations of "Real Estate Law"... that resulted in all loans being paid back in FULL, and even "Deutche Banc" would NOT find fault for... AND NOW, for HER to how be accused of VERY SIMILAR violations, and probably MORE EGREGIOUS than Trumps... 

HA!!  SHE is in a WORLD of HURT !!
 

ConservativeWave » 21 Aug 2025, 12:55 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 12:55 pm

So, the FINE has been thrown out... and even though Trump was convicted (by a CORRUPT NY state Jury)... the legal team was NOT BRAVE enough to actually sentence trump (because the trial could then be appealed)... and THAT would lead to it's being TOSSED, Just like the FINE just was !!

AND NOW... with Leticia James ALSO being investigated for Real Estate fraud (but the evidence her case is ALREADY DAMNING... and bordering on a SLAM DUNK case... I think Leticia is in a WORLD of HURT !!  A NY Attorney General, attacking and legally prosecuting a popular Political icon, and now President of the United States, for violations of "Real Estate Law"... that resulted in all loans being paid back in FULL, and even "Deutche Banc" would NOT find fault for... AND NOW, for HER to how be accused of VERY SIMILAR violations, and probably MORE EGREGIOUS than Trumps... 

HA!!  SHE is in a WORLD of HURT !!

A flash flood warning has just been issued in my area...the crocodile tears are a flowin'...
 

*Huey » 21 Aug 2025, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 11:12 am

The most important part of your source:Appeals court throws out Trump's $454 million civil fraud judgmentThe rest of is fluff.

OH GAWD, this is another one he'll cling to like stink to ****...we're really **** doomed...
 

ROG62 » 21 Aug 2025, 4:44 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 4:44 pm

OH GAWD, this is another one he'll cling to like stink to ****...we're really **** doomed...

Not me.  He is in severe meltdown mode and is running from me.  I’m loving it!
 

Mark Levine:

The rest of the case will get tossed on appeal!

And of course Trump will get his $175 million back.

ConservativeWave » 21 Aug 2025, 12:55 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 12:55 pm

So, the FINE has been thrown out... and even though Trump was convicted (by a CORRUPT NY state Jury)... the legal team was NOT BRAVE enough to actually sentence trump (because the trial could then be appealed)... and THAT would lead to it's being TOSSED, Just like the FINE just was !!

AND NOW... with Leticia James ALSO being investigated for Real Estate fraud (but the evidence her case is ALREADY DAMNING... and bordering on a SLAM DUNK case... I think Leticia is in a WORLD of HURT !!  A NY Attorney General, attacking and legally prosecuting a popular Political icon, and now President of the United States, for violations of "Real Estate Law"... that resulted in all loans being paid back in FULL, and even "Deutche Banc" would NOT find fault for... AND NOW, for HER to how be accused of VERY SIMILAR violations, and probably MORE EGREGIOUS than Trumps... 

HA!!  SHE is in a WORLD of HURT !!

They upheld the fraud part.

Blackvegetable » 21 Aug 2025, 5:49 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 5:49 pm

They upheld the fraud part.

Her case hasn't been adjudicated yet, are you a clairvoyant?
 

Blackvegetable » 21 Aug 2025, 5:49 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 5:49 pm

They upheld the fraud part.

For NOW... because this was a lawsuit without a victim... Leticia James brought the lawsuit without the Bank in question (i.e. Deutche Banc) EVER having any problems with the deal... James claimed that the house was "over valued"... and THAT was the basis of her lawsuite... BUT, it's a VERY SPECIAL property, a PROPERTY THAT: 

1)  Is a ONE of a kind historic estate and private club in Palm Beach, Florida.
2)  Was built by Marjorie Merriweather Post, heiress to the Post cereal fortune.
3)  The property stretches from the Atlantic Ocean to the Intra-coastal Waterway (i.e. TWO Beaches).
4)  Declared a National Historic Landmark in 1980... and,
5)  NOW is also, and will forever more BE, Donald Trumps "Winter White House, and where he has hosted foreign leaders and conducted official U.S. business.

Leticia James tried to value the property as if it were an "average" property... in order to BRING the law-suite.  BUT, Deutche Banc did their own valuation, and GRANTED Trump the loan... what's more, Trump repaid the loan, Deutche Banc was COMPLETELY SATISFIED with the deal, and THEY are on the record saying they would DEFINITELY do business with Donald Trump again... SO, Leticia James INSERTED herself into a business deal, which she knew NOTHING about, for the SOLE REASON of trying to Destroy & Defame Donald Trump, Stop his re-election, and END his political career... NEEDLESS to say, SHE FAILED...

Until November 4, 2024... the Democrat Party and the Washington establishment was the "hunter", and Donald Trump was the "hunted"... ON THAT DAY houever, the Democrats FAILED... and NOW, the Democrat Party is the HUNTED, and Donald Trump is the HUNTER !

I don't think the Democrats survive this... NOR SHOULD THEY !!  Donald Trump has EVERY RIGHT to GO FOR THE THROAT, and END these BASTARDS !  ...and I think that is EXACTLY what he will do !!! 

CHEW on THAT... MORON !!
 
 

ConservativeWave » 21 Aug 2025, 12:55 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Aug 2025, 12:55 pm

So, the FINE has been thrown out... and even though Trump was convicted (by a CORRUPT NY state Jury)... the legal team was NOT BRAVE enough to actually sentence trump (because the trial could then be appealed)... and THAT would lead to it's being TOSSED, Just like the FINE just was !!

AND NOW... with Leticia James ALSO being investigated for Real Estate fraud (but the evidence her case is ALREADY DAMNING... and bordering on a SLAM DUNK case... I think Leticia is in a WORLD of HURT !!  A NY Attorney General, attacking and legally prosecuting a popular Political icon, and now President of the United States, for violations of "Real Estate Law"... that resulted in all loans being paid back in FULL, and even "Deutche Banc" would NOT find fault for... AND NOW, for HER to how be accused of VERY SIMILAR violations, and probably MORE EGREGIOUS than Trumps... 

HA!!  SHE is in a WORLD of HURT !!

They threw it out because it violated the 8th amendment, excessive fines and punishment.