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I KNOW that Putin is not going to accept anything OTHER than taking control of vast swaths of Ukraine... BUT, Ukraine has been blowing up Oil Refineries, Railroad hubs, and key industries ALL OVER Russia... I would think Putin would see that THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE for HIM... and are NOT about to get better.  NATO and America seem to be supporting Ukraine MORE, and Ukraine is developing MORE, and Longer Distance, weapons... and UTTERLY DESTROYING Russia's infrastructure... and Putins ONLY source of funds...

I'm NOT SURE how long the Russian people are going to ACCEPT this meat grinder...  BUT, the Ukrainians are CERTAINLY not going to give Russia THEIR nation without a FIGHT... while Ukraine is starting to REALLY take a HELL of a toll on Putin !!  I don't know HOW LONG he will be able to last... he may just already be BEYOND the point of no return, and peace without victory is NOT acceptable?  IN WHICH CASE, the only way to END the war, might be to END Putin !!
 
 

Doesn't communism require a Dictator?

ConservativeWave » 25 Aug 2025, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2025, 10:30 am

I KNOW that Putin is not going to accept anything OTHER than taking control of vast swaths of Ukraine... BUT, Ukraine has been blowing up Oil Refineries, Railroad hubs, and key industries ALL OVER Russia... I would think Putin would see that THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE for HIM... and are NOT about to get better.  NATO and America seem to be supporting Ukraine MORE, and Ukraine is developing MORE, and Longer Distance, weapons... and UTTERLY DESTROYING Russia's infrastructure... and Putins ONLY source of funds...

I'm NOT SURE how long the Russian people are going to ACCEPT this meat grinder...  BUT, the Ukrainians are CERTAINLY not going to give Russia THEIR nation without a FIGHT... while Ukraine is starting to REALLY take a HELL of a toll on Putin !!  I don't know HOW LONG he will be able to last... he may just already be BEYOND the point of no return, and peace without victory is NOT acceptable?  IN WHICH CASE, the only way to END the war, might be to END Putin !!

next week russia strikes back.

I  hope the ukrainians love to see their children killed.

 

jerrab » 25 Aug 2025, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2025, 2:04 pm

next week russia strikes back.

I  hope the ukrainians love to see their children killed.

Most of the women and kids are in Poland... and those that arent are living in bunkers...

I wonder how Russians are going to take being killed. at random... from just normal shelling !!

I asked the Google:
Which propaganda machine is right about the Russia/Ukraine war?

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AI answer (apparently):

Search Assist
Both Russian and Ukrainian propaganda machines present biased narratives to support their respective positions in the conflict. It's important to critically evaluate information from multiple sources to understand the complexities of the Russia-Ukraine war.Overview of Propaganda in the Russia-Ukraine WarBoth Russia and Ukraine have engaged in propaganda efforts during the ongoing conflict, but the scale and intent differ significantly.

Russian Propaganda

• State-Controlled Media: The Russian government controls most media outlets, allowing it to disseminate a unified narrative.
• Key Themes:
  • Portraying Ukraine as a neo-Nazi state.
  • Claiming that Russia is defending traditional values and Christianity.
  • Accusing NATO of aggression and portraying the invasion as a liberation of the Donbas region.
• Disinformation Tactics: Russian propaganda includes false claims about Ukrainian war crimes and the existence of biological weapons. It aims to justify the invasion and undermine support for Ukraine internationally.

Ukrainian Response

• Limited Propaganda: Ukraine's propaganda efforts are less extensive and often focus on rallying domestic and international support.
• Key Themes:
  • Emphasizing the defense of sovereignty and democracy.
  • Highlighting Russian aggression and war crimes.
• Countering Disinformation: Ukraine actively works to debunk Russian claims and promote factual narratives about the war.

Conclusion
While both sides utilize propaganda, Russian efforts are more pervasive and state-controlled, aiming to manipulate public perception both domestically and abroad. Ukrainian propaganda, although present, is primarily focused on defense and rallying support against the invasion.

 
 

ConservativeWave » 25 Aug 2025, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2025, 10:30 am

I KNOW that Putin is not going to accept anything OTHER than taking control of vast swaths of Ukraine... BUT, Ukraine has been blowing up Oil Refineries, Railroad hubs, and key industries ALL OVER Russia... I would think Putin would see that THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE for HIM... and are NOT about to get better.  NATO and America seem to be supporting Ukraine MORE, and Ukraine is developing MORE, and Longer Distance, weapons... and UTTERLY DESTROYING Russia's infrastructure... and Putins ONLY source of funds...

I'm NOT SURE how long the Russian people are going to ACCEPT this meat grinder...  BUT, the Ukrainians are CERTAINLY not going to give Russia THEIR nation without a FIGHT... while Ukraine is starting to REALLY take a HELL of a toll on Putin !!  I don't know HOW LONG he will be able to last... he may just already be BEYOND the point of no return, and peace without victory is NOT acceptable?  IN WHICH CASE, the only way to END the war, might be to END Putin !!

You're stupid.

The Coupkrainians do not have a nation. 

They did, very briefly, from 1991 to 2014 - and never at any other time in history. But after 23 years of being a nation state for the first time ever, the US deep state that you worship took away Coupkraine's sovereignty in 2014 with an engineered coup, and tried to use Coupkraine as a battering ram against Russia. That gambit failed, and Trump is cleaning up the mess as best he can manage. There is very little left of Coupkraine, and Russia's economy and infrastructure are much larger now than when the war began. The relative pin-pricks that coupkraine is accomplishing through terrorism - not warfare - have no effect on the inevitable outcome of the war.

Less propaganda and less *** dick is the prescription that will cure you, son. Just climb down, glue your butt cheeks together, and walk it off. And then hit the showers, and give Coach 110% next time. 
 

ConservativeWave » 25 Aug 2025, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2025, 5:41 pm

Most of the women and kids are in Poland... and those that arent are living in bunkers...

I wonder how Russians are going to take being killed. at random... from just normal shelling !!

Russia is producing more than three times as much artillery as the entire west combined, stupid. And no one is close enough to Russia to shell it. 

As will most wars, this one is being fought on the territory of the losing side. Every time the tranny countries send new ordinance, Russia blows it up before it can evern be deployed. 
 
Russia will not be "shelled," you stupid downsy. 

DeezerShoove » 25 Aug 2025, 7:14 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2025, 7:14 pm

I asked the Google:
Which propaganda machine is right about the Russia/Ukraine war?

----

AI answer (apparently):

Search Assist
Both Russian and Ukrainian propaganda machines present biased narratives to support their respective positions in the conflict. It's important to critically evaluate information from multiple sources to understand the complexities of the Russia-Ukraine war.Overview of Propaganda in the Russia-Ukraine WarBoth Russia and Ukraine have engaged in propaganda efforts during the ongoing conflict, but the scale and intent differ significantly.

Russian Propaganda

• State-Controlled Media: The Russian government controls most media outlets, allowing it to disseminate a unified narrative.
• Key Themes:
  • Portraying Ukraine as a neo-Nazi state.
  • Claiming that Russia is defending traditional values and Christianity.
  • Accusing NATO of aggression and portraying the invasion as a liberation of the Donbas region.
• Disinformation Tactics: Russian propaganda includes false claims about Ukrainian war crimes and the existence of biological weapons. It aims to justify the invasion and undermine support for Ukraine internationally.

Ukrainian Response

• Limited Propaganda: Ukraine's propaganda efforts are less extensive and often focus on rallying domestic and international support.
• Key Themes:
  • Emphasizing the defense of sovereignty and democracy.
  • Highlighting Russian aggression and war crimes.
• Countering Disinformation: Ukraine actively works to debunk Russian claims and promote factual narratives about the war.

Conclusion
While both sides utilize propaganda, Russian efforts are more pervasive and state-controlled, aiming to manipulate public perception both domestically and abroad. Ukrainian propaganda, although present, is primarily focused on defense and rallying support against the invasion.

Google victimized you with pure propaganda. 

Ukraine is a neo-Nazi state. It sent ACTUAL NAZIS that anyone not lazy can VERIFY ARE PROUD NAZIS to murder ethnic Russians.
Russia is defending traditional values and Christianity. Coupkraine has outlawed the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. One of Russia's demands to end the Special Military Operation is Coupkraine restoring citizens' freedom of worship. Russia outlaws gender perversion and promotion of dicksuckery. The *** who started this thread stands with the dicksuckers.
NATO of is guilty of aggression, and the invasion was a liberation of the Donbas region. Regarding NATO being an aggressor, ask the Serbs. Or just look at all of the coups they foment in their eastward march. Regarding the invasion being a liberation, ask the residents of Donbas. Their votes matter. 

Which brings us to the "limited" propaganda of Coupkraine. How are THESE THINGS propaganda - unless they are lies?

• Emphasizing the defense of sovereignty and democracy.
• Highlighting Russian aggression and war crimes.

EITHER Gooigle is admitting that these ^ are lies, OR google is **** you about what Coupkraine's propaganda REALLY is. 

Just think about it. Study on that couplet. How the **** can those be "propaganda," unless they are lies?
 

jerrab » 25 Aug 2025, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2025, 2:04 pm

next week russia strikes back.

I  hope the ukrainians love to see their children killed.

How christian of you.


 

Cannonpointer » 25 Aug 2025, 7:38 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2025, 7:38 pm

Google victimized you with pure propaganda. 

Ukraine is a neo-Nazi state. It sent ACTUAL NAZIS that anyone not lazy can VERIFY ARE PROUD NAZIS to murder ethnic Russians.
Russia is defending traditional values and Christianity. Coupkraine has outlawed the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. One of Russia's demands to end the Special Military Operation is Coupkraine restoring citizens' freedom of worship. Russia outlaws gender perversion and promotion of dicksuckery. The *** who started this thread stands with the dicksuckers.
NATO of is guilty of aggression, and the invasion was a liberation of the Donbas region. Regarding NATO being an aggressor, ask the Serbs. Or just look at all of the coups they foment in their eastward march. Regarding the invasion being a liberation, ask the residents of Donbas. Their votes matter. 

Which brings us to the "limited" propaganda of Coupkraine. How are THESE THINGS propaganda - unless they are lies?

• Emphasizing the defense of sovereignty and democracy.
• Highlighting Russian aggression and war crimes.

EITHER Gooigle is admitting that these ^ are lies, OR google is **** you about what Coupkraine's propaganda REALLY is. 

Just think about it. Study on that couplet. How the **** can those be "propaganda," unless they are lies?

Post your **** sources..

Blackvegetable » 26 Aug 2025, 6:50 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2025, 6:50 am

Post your **** sources..

         

For YOU???

 :die:          
 

Cannonpointer » 25 Aug 2025, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2025, 7:27 pm

You're stupid.

The Coupkrainians do not have a nation. 

They did, very briefly, from 1991 to 2014 - and never at any other time in history. But after 23 years of being a nation state for the first time ever, the US deep state that you worship took away Coupkraine's sovereignty in 2014 with an engineered coup, and tried to use Coupkraine as a battering ram against Russia. That gambit failed, and Trump is cleaning up the mess as best he can manage. There is very little left of Coupkraine, and Russia's economy and infrastructure are much larger now than when the war began. The relative pin-pricks that coupkraine is accomplishing through terrorism - not warfare - have no effect on the inevitable outcome of the war.

Less propaganda and less *** dick is the prescription that will cure you, son. Just climb down, glue your butt cheeks together, and walk it off. And then hit the showers, and give Coach 110% next time.

HA!!  For a people who "Don't have a Nation"... the Ukrainians are kicking the TAR out of the Russians.. NOW that the limitations have been lifted on them, and support is flowing into Ukraine (because Putin has REFUSED to negotiate a fair peace)... the UKRAINIANS are blowing up Oil Refinery after Oil Refinery, Railway hub, after Railway hub, Oil pipeline after Oil Pipeline, and OTHER KEY Russian buildings and sites... and THAT is not even to mention the destruction of about 75% of Russia's nuclear bomber fleet, MOST of their Black Sea Navy, and DOZENS of other key Russian targets... UKRAINE is costing Russia BILLIONS, if not TRILLIONS, of $$$ in irrecoverable losses... because of world wide sanctions against them... RUSSIA can NOT recoup them... AND is getting their UTTERLY getting their BUTTS KICKED !!

It looks to me like Ukraine is nearing a point in time when THEY will control the battlefield (with NATO and the USA prepared to help them fight)... LEADING to a POINT when Putin will NOT be able to supply his troops, and THEY will die or surrender in droves on the battlefield... AND, THE QUESTION THEN will be... How much of Russia, will Ukraine WANT in repayment for Russian aggression !!

OPEN your eyes... Russia thinks Ukraine will GIVE THEM EVERYTHING they want?... BUT, it looks like Ukraine is not NEARLY READY to "Give Up"... while the Russians (and the Russian people) are have ALREADY HAD ENOUGH of the Ukrainians !!

The 5 day war... that is now closer to 5 years along.. and where an END is NO WHERE in sight !!!

ConservativeWave » 26 Aug 2025, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2025, 10:18 am

HA!!  For a people who "Don't have a Nation"... the Ukrainians are kicking the TAR out of the Russians..

No.

The propagandists are kicking the tar out of you, ya poor thing. 

Coupkraine lost this before it started. The Russians and NATO are using Coupkraine as a place to test their weapons against each other.

And NATO is sucking hind tit in the contest, dummy. That's why Trump is trying to settle up, you poor **** steer. 

ConservativeWave » 25 Aug 2025, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

25 Aug 2025, 10:30 am

Well, LOOKS like Putin is backing away from bi-lateral talks... this MIGHT be his last chance !

Putin already HELD bilateral talks, stupid. With Trump -the other hostile.

Coupkraine is a proxy, you **** idiot.

Nothing can be gained by chatting with a puppet. You gotta talk to the guy holding the strings -and Putin did.

Man up, you **** girl.

Blackvegetable » 26 Aug 2025, 6:50 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2025, 6:50 am

Post your **** sources..

The Stump that won't answer questions is demanding answers.      

roadkill » 26 Aug 2025, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2025, 10:58 am

The Stump that won't answer questions is demanding answers.    

He has a history of ignoring counter evidence, and NO history of EVER accepting counter evidence. 

Why would anyone be foolish enough to bother providing him evidence? He thinks chicks have dicks, FFS.    
 

Cannonpointer » 26 Aug 2025, 11:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2025, 11:15 am

He has a history of ignoring counter evidence, and NO history of EVER accepting counter evidence. 

Why would anyone be foolish enough to bother providing him evidence? He thinks chicks have dicks, FFS.  

Stumpy says chicks like his gay ski pants and his degree in Russian ***.   

I'm guessing those chicks have dicks.       
 
 

Cannonpointer » 26 Aug 2025, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2025, 10:46 am

No.

The propagandists are kicking the tar out of you, ya poor thing. 

Coupkraine lost this before it started. The Russians and NATO are using Coupkraine as a place to test their weapons against each other.

And NATO is sucking hind tit in the contest, dummy. That's why Trump is trying to settle up, you poor **** steer.

Trump just approved 3500 long range missiles to be sold to Ukraine, to go along with their OWN new long range (Pelican?) missile, that that has recently been dismantling Russians oil industry, and Rail Transportation, THRU OUT Russia...

What I THINK?... I THINK, what you have now is Ukraine, who has been permitted to fight with BOTH HANDS (after having one arm tied behind it's back)... Ready to start REALLY taking the fight to Ukraine.. Trump PROBABLY now understands that Putin has just been trying to feed him BS he wanted to hear, and drag everything out... BUT, THAT might all be over ! 

From now, Ukraine is going to to have OPEN SEASON on Russians... AND, I wouldn't expect Zelinski to be too willing to fall for any more of Putin's BS.  SO, where will Russia be in 6 months?  PERSONALLY. I think they are going to be BEGGING for a cease fire... bit Zelinski would be STUPID to agree !

If YOU think Putin is going to win this?... I would suggest you NOT bet on it !!

ConservativeWave » 26 Aug 2025, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2025, 12:29 pm

Trump just approved 3500 long range missiles to be sold to Ukraine,

No. You are a very stupid girl. You managed to work at MINIMUM 7 errors of fact or logic into just one short-but-stupid post.

1. 150 to 280 miles is not long range The ERAMs are "extended" range. They go farther than artillery. 

2. They don't exist. They're bought and paid for - and "scheduled" to be delivered. Coupkraine cannot fire missiles it does not have.

3. They've been delayed. Trump approved the ERAMs BEFORE Putin took him to the woodshed. Then he stalled delivery.

4. Once in country - which is highly unlikely to happen, - Zelenski must get approval to use them except within the confines of Coupkraine. That's an unlikely even conditioned on an unlikely event, rutard.

5. They are defensive missiles - not offensive. They are for shooting down incoming hostile aircraft, missiles and drones - not for blowing up Russian infrastructure.

6. 3500 ERAMS will last less than a week when the industrial might of Russia allows it to simply swarm Coupkrainian targets. You are a very, very stupid young lady. You need a man to give you a good slap - make ya less hysterical. 

7. Most newly arrived ordinance in Coupkraine never even gets to be deployed before the Russians destroy it. Coupkraine has received half a dozen patriot batteries - those are clearly defunct, though no one in the west admits it. But Russia bombs Coupkraine at will. The ERAMs mean nothing to the Russians, and nothing to the war effort. But they will likely be blown up, anyway - before they ever see action.

Cannonpointer » 26 Aug 2025, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Aug 2025, 5:41 pm

No. You are a very stupid girl. You managed to work at MINIMUM 7 errors of fact or logic into just one short-but-stupid post.

1. 150 to 280 miles is not long range The ERAMs are "extended" range. They go farther than artillery. 

2. They don't exist. They're bought and paid for - and "scheduled" to be delivered. Coupkraine cannot fire missiles it does not have.

3. They've been delayed. Trump approved the ERAMs BEFORE Putin took him to the woodshed. Then he stalled delivery.

4. Once in country - which is highly unlikely to happen, - Zelenski must get approval to use them except within the confines of Coupkraine. That's an unlikely even conditioned on an unlikely event, rutard.

5. They are defensive missiles - not offensive. They are for shooting down incoming hostile aircraft, missiles and drones - not for blowing up Russian infrastructure.

6. 3500 ERAMS will last less than a week when the industrial might of Russia allows it to simply swarm Coupkrainian targets. You are a very, very stupid young lady. You need a man to give you a good slap - make ya less hysterical. 

7. Most newly arrived ordinance in Coupkraine never even gets to be deployed before the Russians destroy it. Coupkraine has received half a dozen patriot batteries - those are clearly defunct, though no one in the west admits it. But Russia bombs Coupkraine at will. The ERAMs mean nothing to the Russians, and nothing to the war effort. But they will likely be blown up, anyway - before they ever see action.

1)  ERAMS are NOT the biggest threat Ukrain has against Russia, THEY have developed a NUMBER of THEIR OWN (although possible with western help) long range missiles (up to 3000 KM).. that they are now using to REACH OUT, and TOUCH Russia... KEY among then are the Flamingo Missils !!

2)  SOMETHING exists !  PROBABLY domestically produced Flamingo's... because Russian Refineries, Railways, and other targets are BLOWING UP all over RUSSIA... HOW do you explain that?

3)  As I've already said... ERAMS are NOT the biggest threat Ukraine has against Russia... THEY will be a more accurate PART of Ukraine's arsenal soon... but NOT their only DAGGER !

4)  As I've already stated... Zalensi is ALREADY USING a NUMBER of his own domestically produced weapons:  1) Long Neptune (Upgraded Neptune Cruise Missile...1000KM),  2) Peklo Missile Drone, 3) Palyanytsia Missile-Drone, 4) Flamingo (FP-5 Cruise Missile... 3000KM)... LOOK THEM UP !!

5), 6), 7)  Again FORGET about the ERAMS... THEY will have a purpose... BUT, Ukraine has their OWN long distance threats now... which Putin should WORRY about !

SO, for the last couple months, Ukraine has been using their OWN Domestically produced weapons... ONE of which has a 3000 KM range (the Flamingo)... THOSE have ALREADY been used to destroy MUCH of Russias oil production, and THEY ARE NOT DONE.  I don't know exactly where they came from, but they probably had western help in developing them.. the PROBLEM for Russia?... is they ALREADY have them... LOOK for YOURSELF !!