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ConservativeWave » 28 Aug 2025, 5:25 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 5:25 pm

YOU are living in a REALITY, with which I am UNFAMILIAR !!

Bingo, fruitcake.

You see the winning side BEGGING for a ceasefire and the losing side refusing. 

Not because I say so, but because YOU say so. That is how YOU say you see it: The winner is begging for a ceasefire, and the loser is refusing the ceasefire.

In case you are unaware, that means you are some manner of a retard. A downsy, likely. 
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2025, 5:47 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 5:47 pm

Bingo, fruitcake.

You see the winning side BEGGING for a ceasefire and the losing side refusing. 

Not because I say so, but because YOU say so. That is how YOU say you see it: The winner is begging for a ceasefire, and the loser is refusing the ceasefire.

In case you are unaware, that means you are some manner of a retard. A downsy, likely.

Putin is wearing Nancy Sinatra's boots! Dear Leader has dirt on the Mango MAGAniacal Madman.

Get rid of mail in ballots Donald!
 
 

JohnnyYou » 29 Aug 2025, 1:09 am » wrote: ↑

29 Aug 2025, 1:09 am

Putin is wearing Nancy Sinatra's boots! Dear Leader has dirt on the Mango MAGAniacal Madman.

Get rid of mail in ballots Donald!

Putin won a war, ditz. 

That makes him a boss. He gets to say how **** goes. 

Think, "USA. WWII". Winners decide.
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2025, 5:47 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 5:47 pm

Bingo, fruitcake.

You see the winning side BEGGING for a ceasefire and the losing side refusing. 

Not because I say so, but because YOU say so. That is how YOU say you see it: The winner is begging for a ceasefire, and the loser is refusing the ceasefire.

In case you are unaware, that means you are some manner of a retard. A downsy, likely.

YOU are going to get a MAJOR REALITY CHECK... VERY SOON !!

When Russia started this war, They had many 1000's more tanks, artillery, and mechanized equipment... today, Russia doesn't even EVEN USE them any more.. because Ukraine has BEATEN them with DRONES !!  Ukraine has destroyed MOST of Russia's navy, MANY of their aircraft/bombers, and HAS CHANGED the battlefield with explosive DRONES...

SO, you want to know what's NEXT?  DRONES that will take the place of soldiers on the battlefield... mounted with machine guns, mine removers, spy equipment, and MORE... NO LONGER will Ukrainians die on the battlefield, in face to face combat, with Russians... Russian soldiers will die in combat with heavily armed, and deadly DRONES... that can't be killed !

YOU think that wanting peace is being a LOSER?  HA!!  WRONG... I think TRUMP is just trying to save lives, LIVES that Putin doesn't give a **** about... REGARDLESS... UKRAINE is NOW starting to TAKE OVER this war... THEY are on the RISE, and Russia is on the decline... Ukraine has DOZENS of new DRONE variants that are coming SOON !!   Russia (and Russian soldiers) will get a MAJOR wake up call that they have NO ANSWER for... very soon ! 

OH... and IF you wan to see a RETARD?  LOOK in a MIRROR !

 
 

ConservativeWave » 29 Aug 2025, 8:03 am » wrote: ↑

29 Aug 2025, 8:03 am

YOU are going to get a MAJOR REALITY CHECK... VERY SOON !!

Russia used surplus soviet tanks to make way for next gen.

Russia INVENTED drone warfare. It produces and deploys ten drones for every one that CDoupkraine begs out of the west.

IF AN D WHEN the line stops moving west and starts moving east, you won't look like a retarded girl who drank the koolaid. 

In the mean time, I will take Trump's word over yours. He says Coupkraine has lost the war.

Cannonpointer » 29 Aug 2025, 4:21 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Aug 2025, 4:21 pm

Russia used surplus soviet tanks to make way for next gen.

Russia INVENTED drone warfare. It produces and deploys ten drones for every one that CDoupkraine begs out of the west.

IF AN D WHEN the line stops moving west and starts moving east, you won't look like a retarded girl who drank the koolaid. 

In the mean time, I will take Trump's word over yours. He says Coupkraine has lost the war.

A couple thoughts:

1)  If Russia is so STRONG... THEN WHY is it WELL into year 4 of the (6 day) war, and Russia does NOT look any closer to winnibg... and it has ALREADY cost them OVER a MILLION soldiers, and BILLIONS, if not TRILLIONS of $$$$ of their best armaments... that NOW, they can NOT REPLACE ?  and...

2)  IF your assessment of Trumps "word" (that he wants Zelenski to surrender) is correct... then WHY NOW, is Trump no longer making those requests to end the war, is RE-SUPPLYING Ukraine with munitions, and has TOLD them that "offensive" attacks are acceptable... because "Ukraine can not win playing defense"... and which NOW Ukraine is moving OUT on, every DAY ??

It seems to me "there's something a little SCREWY", with your logic.  BUT, I still think RUSSIA is playing with fire... I BELIEVE, with BOTH NATO and the U.S. more capable of supplying Ukraine, and Ukraine apparently is NO WHERE NEAR ready to surrender... I think RUSSIA is in a tenuous position... AND, the war will TURN against RUSSIA... SOON!  

 

ConservativeWave » 30 Aug 2025, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2025, 1:38 pm

A couple thoughts:

1)  If Russia is so STRONG... THEN WHY is it WELL into year 4 of the (6 day) war,

You have been lied to. The Russians never said anything like that.

The propagandists SAID the Russians said that. And you believed them. But IF they said it, YOU should easily be able to show them saying it. You cannot.

You should be a man and show them saying it, or be a man and stop repeating it. Either show it, and I back down, or stop telling this lie.

ConservativeWave » 30 Aug 2025, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2025, 1:38 pm

and Russia does NOT look any closer to winnibg... and it has ALREADY cost them OVER a MILLION soldiers, and BILLIONS, if not TRILLIONS of $$$$ of their best armaments... that NOW, they can NOT REPLACE ?  and...

This is propaganda. Russia has expended the old soviet weapons while building modern ones. Russia has given the west a master class in drone and missile warfare, while still fighting a war of attrition on the ground. Just notice that the many patriot batteries we have sent Coupkraine are meaningless against Russia. 

The west is begging for a ceasefire because the Coupkrainian army is collapsing. The line is more than 600 miles long, and the Coupkrainians can no longer man it. They are being outflanked and encircled in multiple critical positions. The roads to Kyiv will soon be unguarded.

"A million dead" and "trillions wasted" is propaganda. The numbers are ***-pulled by western "analysts." 

1. This war is existential for Russia. If they allow NATO to park missiles a few hundred miles from Moscow, they become NATO's slaves. Imagine the Russians fomenting a coup in Mexico, and using the coup government to plant THEIR missiles on OUR border. Remember Cuba? That was the Monroe Doctrine being enforced: THIS hemisphere is ours. We do not allow hostile missiles on our border. That was a red line.

Moscow has red lines. Russia is a country - a real country, nothing like Coupkraine, which had never even existed as a country before 1991. Russia has a right to enforce its own version of the Monroe Doctrine. EVEN IF TRUE, "a million dead" and "trillions wasted" means nothing. This is not a war of choice for Russia. This is a war that the deep state has forced Russia to fight.

2. The Russian economy, under the most brutal sanctions ever applied, in the middle of a war facing every weapon NATO can field, has continued to grow faster than all of the western economies. If conditions for Russia were as you believe them to be, they would be RUNNING to the table - not telling the west to **** off.

ConservativeWave » 30 Aug 2025, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2025, 1:38 pm

2)  ... then WHY NOW, is Trump no longer making those requests to end the war, is RE-SUPPLYING Ukraine with munitions,

Theater. Trump has sent them nothing. If they ever DO get what Trump promised, it is conditioned - I showed you the evidence - on Zelenski using it only on Coupkrainian territory. Putin has made it clear that if western weapons land in moscow, then Russian weapons should be expected in whatever capitol those weapons came from. Trump doesn't want war with Russia. His eyes are on China.

ConservativeWave » 30 Aug 2025, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2025, 1:38 pm

It seems to me "there's something a little SCREWY", with your logic.  

Based on the facts as you understand them, my logic IS screwy.

The problem is with your facts. They just are not facts.
 
 
 

It certainly has been more than 24 hours.. Any update?

Cannonpointer » 30 Aug 2025, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Aug 2025, 3:20 pm

You have been lied to. The Russians never said anything like that.

The propagandists SAID the Russians said that. And you believed them. But IF they said it, YOU should easily be able to show them saying it. You cannot.

You should be a man and show them saying it, or be a man and stop repeating it. Either show it, and I back down, or stop telling this lie.

This is propaganda. Russia has expended the old soviet weapons while building modern ones. Russia has given the west a master class in drone and missile warfare, while still fighting a war of attrition on the ground. Just notice that the many patriot batteries we have sent Coupkraine are meaningless against Russia. 

The west is begging for a ceasefire because the Coupkrainian army is collapsing. The line is more than 600 miles long, and the Coupkrainians can no longer man it. They are being outflanked and encircled in multiple critical positions. The roads to Kyiv will soon be unguarded.

"A million dead" and "trillions wasted" is propaganda. The numbers are ***-pulled by western "analysts." 

 

YOU are a FOOL if you believe all that...

Bottom line, Ukraine is standing STRONG and getting STRONGER, and Russia?  I leaking OIL !!  WHY?

1)  Ukraine if now destroying CRITICAL Russian infrastructure ALL across Russia... WHILE Russia is barely holding what it has!

2)  Ukraine has recently unveiled the Flamingo Missile, drone tactics, that have enabled them to HIT EVEN DEEPER into Russia !

3)  NATO is now allocating 5% of GDP for defense, and so, MORE western support if coming to Ukraine !

The Russia economy is in a WORLD of hurt... NOW almost STRICTLY a WAR economy... WITHOUT even access to critical technology that they must have to BUILD the weapons they need... AND, EVEN if they could build them, their technology is 30 years behind the west... CASE IN POINT:  Russia's best air defense systems (the S300 & S400)... THEY were deployed thru out Russia and the middle east... When Israel attacked Iran, they went thru the S300's and S400's like they weren't even there.. Ukraine is hitting Moscow pretty much at will... and when America bombed Iran's Nuclear facilities... Iran never even KNEW the B2's were there... until the Bunkers were BLOWING UP !!  AND... THAT was 30 year old U.S. technology !!  Today the B2s are being replaced by the B21's, and the F22's & F35's with the F47's... WHICH will likely be low earth orbit capable fighters, and THAT only scratches the surface... Russia is nation in SERIOUS decline... and the Russian people are starting to see it. 

BUT... YOU? ...believe what you WANT to believe... JUST KNOW... it's a FANTASY !!
 

ConservativeWave » 31 Aug 2025, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2025, 11:49 am

YOU are a FOOL if you believe all that...

It's not a question of "believe." I gave you facts. I PROVED TO YOU that you have been repeating lies. 

I made a perfectly falsifiable statement: That Putin never said what you claimed he said. That NO ONE in the Russian government EVER said anything about a six day war.

And you went - we all know that you went, - and you tried to find it so that you could rub it in my face. 

And you discovered that you had been lied to. Because the sources that YOU are accessing would very EAGERLY provide you with that video if it existed.

And did the sure and certain knowledge that you had been lied to slow you down? No.

You came right back with more stupid. And this is what defines you, ya **** old broad.

**** you. You are ineducable. You deserve the life that you are living. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 31 Aug 2025, 1:58 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Aug 2025, 1:58 pm

It's not a question of "believe." I gave you facts. I PROVED TO YOU that you have been repeating lies. 

I made a perfectly falsifiable statement: That Putin never said what you claimed he said. That NO ONE in the Russian government EVER said anything about a six day war.

And you went - we all know that you went, - and you tried to find it so that you could rub it in my face. 

And you discovered that you had been lied to. Because the sources that YOU are accessing would very EAGERLY provide you with that video if it existed.

And did the sure and certain knowledge that you had been lied to slow you down? No.

You came right back with more stupid. And this is what defines you, ya **** old broad.

**** you. You are ineducable. You deserve the life that you are living.

YOU proved NOTHING...

SUFFICE to say Putin did not want to call it a "War", THAT he only expected to last a few days (maybe not "6 days" exactly, but it was EXPECTED to be very short)... so he called it a Special Military Operation !!  BUT, it has turned into a quagmire that may well DESTROY him... AND Russia !

OH, and the SOURCES I'm using?  ...are Putin's own words, and the FACT that this war is now going on 4 years, has ALREADY cost Russia a VERY HIGH PRICE... in Men, Equipment, and Prestige... AND, there is STILL no end in sight !

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 022-02-24/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 022-02-24/