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I have no problem with a few minutes of silence before class where kids can silently offer up prayers, or think, or nod off. I would only have a problem with a teacher leading the entire class in the prayer of a specific religion.

Trump Announces New Nationwide Rules for Prayer in Public Schools
(Full article at above link)

President Donald Trump announced on Monday at an event at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C., that the Department of Education will soon be issuing new guidance regarding prayer in public schools. Speaking at the second hearing of the Religious Liberty Commision which he established by executive order in May, Trump said, "For most of our country’s history, the Bible was found in every classroom in the nation. Yet in many schools today, students are instead indoctrinated with anti-religious propaganda. Some are even punished for their religious beliefs -- very, very strongly punished. It’s ridiculous. "I am pleased to announce this morning that the Department of Education will soon issue new guidance protecting the right to prayer in our public schools. It’s total protection," he said.
 
 
 

Separation of Church and State?

That's what Christians came here for in the first place.

Taliban force feeds what they want kids to learn. It sure doesn't seem successful to me. They had an earthquake, the international community gives them a collective "Good Luck, Have a Nice Day
Christianity today has been hijacked by Satan.. Trump is in his majesty's secret service. If Trump is a Christian, then Christianity is dumber than  dirt.
 
 Texassistan and Alabamonation are misguided by the serpent  who got Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden  fruit.  Faith in God will not teach you quantum mechanics. Understanding Quantum  Mechanics may actually  help us get closer to the creator..

 
 

Punch » 09 Sep 2025, 2:17 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 2:17 am

I have no problem with a few minutes of silence before class where kids can silently offer up prayers, or think, or nod off. I would only have a problem with a teacher leading the entire class in the prayer of a specific religion.

Trump Announces New Nationwide Rules for Prayer in Public Schools
(Full article at above link)

President Donald Trump announced on Monday at an event at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C., that the Department of Education will soon be issuing new guidance regarding prayer in public schools. Speaking at the second hearing of the Religious Liberty Commision which he established by executive order in May, Trump said, "For most of our country’s history, the Bible was found in every classroom in the nation. Yet in many schools today, students are instead indoctrinated with anti-religious propaganda. Some are even punished for their religious beliefs -- very, very strongly punished. It’s ridiculous. "I am pleased to announce this morning that the Department of Education will soon issue new guidance protecting the right to prayer in our public schools. It’s total protection," he said.

 Pandering cretin.
 

Punch » 09 Sep 2025, 2:17 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 2:17 am

I have no problem with a few minutes of silence before class where kids can silently offer up prayers, or think, or nod off. I would only have a problem with a teacher leading the entire class in the prayer of a specific religion.

Trump Announces New Nationwide Rules for Prayer in Public Schools
(Full article at above link)

President Donald Trump announced on Monday at an event at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C., that the Department of Education will soon be issuing new guidance regarding prayer in public schools. Speaking at the second hearing of the Religious Liberty Commision which he established by executive order in May, Trump said, "For most of our country’s history, the Bible was found in every classroom in the nation. Yet in many schools today, students are instead indoctrinated with anti-religious propaganda. Some are even punished for their religious beliefs -- very, very strongly punished. It’s ridiculous. "I am pleased to announce this morning that the Department of Education will soon issue new guidance protecting the right to prayer in our public schools. It’s total protection," he said.

It's just a right to pray; it isn't mandatory. Duh. 

Blackvegetable » 09 Sep 2025, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 9:59 am

 Pandering cretin.

The other day it was reported a Trump created think tank developed a cure for cancer.

BV said, “**** big pharma pandering cretin”.

Vegas » 09 Sep 2025, 10:00 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 10:00 am

It's just a right to pray; it isn't mandatory. Duh.

Students have always had the right to pray in school 

Its always been protected 

this is just more pandering from tRump
 

JohnnyYou » 09 Sep 2025, 2:43 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 2:43 am

Separation of Church and State?

That's what Christians came here for in the first place.

Taliban force feeds what they want kids to learn. It sure doesn't seem successful to me. They had an earthquake, the international community gives them a collective "Good Luck, Have a Nice Day
Christianity today has been hijacked by Satan.. Trump is in his majesty's secret service. If Trump is a Christian, then Christianity is dumber than  dirt.
 
 Texassistan and Alabamonation are misguided by the serpent  who got Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden  fruit.  Faith in God will not teach you quantum mechanics. Understanding Quantum  Mechanics may actually  help us get closer to the creator..

*** long as no one is forced to pray or it is led by the school there is nothing to bitch about,

JohnnyYou » 09 Sep 2025, 2:43 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 2:43 am

Separation of Church and State?

That's what Christians came here for in the first place.

Taliban force feeds what they want kids to learn. It sure doesn't seem successful to me. They had an earthquake, the international community gives them a collective "Good Luck, Have a Nice Day
Christianity today has been hijacked by Satan.. Trump is in his majesty's secret service. If Trump is a Christian, then Christianity is dumber than  dirt.
 
 Texassistan and Alabamonation are misguided by the serpent  who got Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden  fruit.  Faith in God will not teach you quantum mechanics. Understanding Quantum  Mechanics may actually  help us get closer to the creator..

**** you ya lying ***.

Mrkelly » 09 Sep 2025, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 10:06 am

Students have always had the right to pray in school 

Its always been protected

Apparently not.  From the OP's article:

""Regarding the need for such guidance, the president offered the example of Texan Hannah Allen, who, in 2018, as an eighth grader, organized a gathering during lunch to pray for a former classmate who had been injured in an accident.

 The school principal stepped in and prevented the students from praying, telling them they could only do so if it was out of sight of others in the school. The school later relented after the religious freedom group First Liberty intervened."
 

JohnnyYou » 09 Sep 2025, 2:43 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 2:43 am

Separation of Church and State?


 

Apparently, the principal of a certain TX school did not think so.  

Again, from the OP:
"Regarding the need for such guidance, the president offered the example of Texan Hannah Allen, who, in 2018, as an eighth grader, organized a gathering during lunch to pray for a former classmate who had been injured in an accident.
 The school principal stepped in and prevented the students from praying, telling them they could only do so if it was out of sight of others in the school. The school later relented after the religious freedom group First Liberty intervened."

Mrkelly » 09 Sep 2025, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 10:06 am

Students have always had the right to pray in school 

Its always been protected 

this is just more pandering from tRump

Then you shouldn't have an issue with it. All is well. 

JohnnyYou » 09 Sep 2025, 2:43 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 2:43 am

Separation of Church and State?

That's what Christians came here for in the first place.

Taliban force feeds what they want kids to learn. It sure doesn't seem successful to me. They had an earthquake, the international community gives them a collective "Good Luck, Have a Nice Day
Christianity today has been hijacked by Satan.. Trump is in his majesty's secret service. If Trump is a Christian, then Christianity is dumber than  dirt.
 
 Texassistan and Alabamonation are misguided by the serpent  who got Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden  fruit.  Faith in God will not teach you quantum mechanics. Understanding Quantum  Mechanics may actually  help us get closer to the creator..

Separation has nothing to do with is as they aren't influencing the state in any way...
 

*Huey » 09 Sep 2025, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 10:03 am

The other day it was reported a Trump created think tank developed a cure for cancer.

BV said, “**** big pharma pandering cretin”.

 

The wife is working at a new Charter School this year. The school is following a program developed by Hillsdale college and not part of the school district. The public school teachers union would be **** bricks , no more grooming!

Vegas » 09 Sep 2025, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 10:24 am

Then you shouldn't have an issue with it. All is well.

who said I did?

it’s the pandering that I was talking about

like when tRump said “now we can say merry Christmas again”

 

Mrkelly » 09 Sep 2025, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 1:08 pm

who said I did?

it’s the pandering that I was talking about

like when tRump said “now we can say merry Christmas again”

Trump is a far better troll than you....  

 

johnedgarslowhorses » 09 Sep 2025, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 10:11 am

Apparently not.  From the OP's article:

""Regarding the need for such guidance, the president offered the example of Texan Hannah Allen, who, in 2018, as an eighth grader, organized a gathering during lunch to pray for a former classmate who had been injured in an accident.

 The school principal stepped in and prevented the students from praying, telling them they could only do so if it was out of sight of others in the school. The school later relented after the religious freedom group First Liberty intervened."

Exactly 

they intervened because it is against the law
 

johnedgarslowhorses » 09 Sep 2025, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 10:11 am

Apparently not.  From the OP's article:

""Regarding the need for such guidance, the president offered the example of Texan Hannah Allen, who, in 2018, as an eighth grader, organized a gathering during lunch to pray for a former classmate who had been injured in an accident.

 The school principal stepped in and prevented the students from praying, telling them they could only do so if it was out of sight of others in the school. The school later relented after the religious freedom group First Liberty intervened."

for that matter 

if it is such a big problem 

why did tRump have to site a case from 7 years ago?

that again … was reversed 

Mrkelly » 09 Sep 2025, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 1:08 pm

who said I did?

it’s the pandering that I was talking about

like when tRump said “now we can say merry Christmas again”

He was obviously being facetious. If you didn't have TDS, then you would know what he meant. 

Vegas » 09 Sep 2025, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2025, 1:22 pm

He was obviously being facetious. If you didn't have TDS, then you would know what he meant.

was he being “facetious” this time too?