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Or should we just print more and stokes the fires of inflation just because Trump says so.

Thats probably what pisses me off the most about Die Hard Trumpers 

Either you be a Yes Man to MAGA dont ya dare question anything or I hate your guts.

Welp what does money printing and cheap credit cause Boom and Bust Cycles 

Why do ya think a basic home used cost 50/75 back in the day now goes a quarter million heck half a million in a hot market again nothing fancy just a basic 3 bedroom 2 bath with a yard ..

Cars back in the day ya could buy a Base with a Stick off dealership lot brand new with a 3/5 year factory warranty somewhat reasonable ..

Today they dont even offer base models it got all the extra crap on it whether ya need it or not and try 30/40k a basic car or big pickup truck or suv try 70/80 grand what as recent as afew decades ago bought a simple basic house ..

 
 

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Economic Prism - The Unvirtuous Cycle of Rate Cuts
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The Unvirtuous Cycle of Rate Cuts

Economic Prism

Friday, September 12, 2025

Knoxville, Tennessee

Rate Cuts to the Rescue?
President Trump wants rate cuts. Stock market investors do too. As do home buyers.

Their reasons are slightly different. But they all generally believe rate cuts to be the path to greater riches and glory.

Trump wants cheaper credit for several reasons. First, he wants cheaper credit so the Treasury can better finance the U.S. government’s massive $37.5 trillion pile of debt.

The 2025 fiscal year ends September 30. Through August, the federal government has run a budget deficit of $1.97 trillion. About half of this – $933 billion – was merely to cover the interest on the debt.

If interest rates were to drop by a percentage point or two the annual debt interest could fall by several hundred billion. This may buy a little time for the U.S. government’s fiscal reckoning. But it really wouldn’t change anything.

The U.S. government is on target to run a budget deficit of $2.2 trillion for FY 2025. Lower interest rates, and thus a lower net interest payment, would only reduce the deficit to around $2 trillion – a difference of just over a half percent of the total $37.5 trillion of outstanding debt. In other words, it would do exactly diddly-squat for the nation’s finances.

Trump also wants rate cuts because he thinks it will boost the economy. The big idea is that lower borrowing costs stimulate business activity. For example, a business owner may be enticed by lower interest rates to borrow money to expand operations. This could mean buying new equipment, opening a new location, or investing in new technology.

Lower interest rates can also provide a boost to consumers. Lower borrowing costs for mortgages, car loans, and credit cards mean that monthly payments go down. This leaves consumers with more disposable income to spend on other things, like dining, shopping, or taking vacations."
 

Zero hedge Dave Stockman on Real Interest rates although lately I find Zerohedge be more agenda propoganda but for now they still allow other voices..

The link to the Article and Stockman served under Reagean administrations and Bush Sr too I think.

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/sto ... ng-problem

Two If By Tea » 12 Sep 2025, 7:25 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2025, 7:25 am

Or should we just print more and stokes the fires of inflation just because Trump says so.

Thats probably what pisses me off the most about Die Hard Trumpers 

Either you be a Yes Man to MAGA dont ya dare question anything or I hate your guts.

Welp what does money printing and cheap credit cause Boom and Bust Cycles 

Why do ya think a basic home used cost 50/75 back in the day now goes a quarter million heck half a million in a hot market again nothing fancy just a basic 3 bedroom 2 bath with a yard ..

Cars back in the day ya could buy a Base with a Stick off dealership lot brand new with a 3/5 year factory warranty somewhat reasonable ..

Today they dont even offer base models it got all the extra crap on it whether ya need it or not and try 30/40k a basic car or big pickup truck or suv try 70/80 grand what as recent as afew decades ago bought a simple basic house ..

 
 

Rule of 72. Simple compounding results evolving in plain sight. What separates geological, geometrical, geographically universally here now.

Do you really understand how that affects everything in social engineered outcomes daily alive since birth until dead?

Another Zerohedge the next rate cut cycles wont benefit you.

But one side of Zerohedge supports rate cuts because Trump says so..

Other see the whole picture and gutting interest rates now will just pump more into Stock Market and Gold could be 5 grand an ounce next year..

Those with assets do Great the rest of us pay thru ya guessed it more INFLATION and Higher prices lower our living standards..

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/next- ... ur-benefit

Two If By Tea » 12 Sep 2025, 7:43 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2025, 7:43 am

Another Zerohedge the next rate cut cycles wont benefit you.

But one side of Zerohedge supports rate cuts because Trump says so..

Other see the whole picture and gutting interest rates now will just pump more into Stock Market and Gold could be 5 grand an ounce next year..

Those with assets do Great the rest of us pay thru ya guessed it more INFLATION and Higher prices lower our living standards..

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/next- ... ur-benefit

Avoid the cause, so the effects keep working as intellectually designed. No wonder your brain only minds what people wished true to formed opinions daily here.

Wages have failed to keep up with Inflation ..

Basically ya make more money looks good on paper..

But your Dollars just dont stretch as far as they used too..

This is NOT the time for the Fed to Slash ..

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-fina ... as-elected

Two If By Tea » 12 Sep 2025, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2025, 7:46 am

Wages have failed to keep up with Inflation ..

Basically ya make more money looks good on paper..

But your Dollars just dont stretch as far as they used too..

This is NOT the time for the Fed to Slash ..

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-fina ... as-elected

Economics is a social means to control human behavior within current population daily forward governed by rationed ideas life exceeds time personally adapting since conceived.

Does your social mind only obey life exists cradle to grave as you only honor your date of birth, not date conceived into a specific position of current global population still living so far?

this has everything to do with interest rates to economic value of your contextual soul taking precedence over your sole time adapting in plain sight.
Leaderships install interest rates fellowships honor every generation forward daily here same as tax rates on incomes and expenditures.

*31stArrival » 12 Sep 2025, 7:59 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2025, 7:59 am

Economics is a social means to control human behavior within current population daily forward governed by rationed ideas life exceeds time personally adapting since conceived.

Does your social mind only obey life exists cradle to grave as you only honor your date of birth, not date conceived into a specific position of current global population still living so far?

this has everything to do with interest rates to economic value of your contextual soul taking precedence over your sole time adapting in plain sight.

Scratching my head here   

Are ya speaking of the "After Life"

Two If By Tea » 12 Sep 2025, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2025, 8:02 am

Scratching my head here  :roll:  

Are ya speaking of the "After Life"

Process of living in plain sight each rotation alive. Time alive is left individually adapting in space equally here since conception. Genetic outcomes are only present womb to tomb as a sole position of current population each rotation intellectual time logistics separates 7 calendar days in 24 hours a rotation.

Again midnight to noon where your are geographical located happens as the planet rotates from 180 degrees longitude to Greenwich Prime Meridian with the climate change local to your grid of latitude between equator and polar axis between solstices and equinoxes twice a year.

8 seasonal shifts of 4 seasons native to this atmosphere.

factual 24 hours a day is 3 minutes and 56 seconds longer than actual dawn to dawn on the equator which is the widest diameter of the rotating planet even current global population has 88% of the population in the norther hemisphere and 82% live between International dateline and Greenwich prime meridian.

that leaves 18% Greenwich Prime Meridian to international dateline referred to as western hemisphere each rotation of the planet.

midnight to noon is tomorrow factually. noon to midnight is end of the day here now dawn to dusk every rotation forward living is limited to every personal lifetime adapting since conceived, never same form twice since inception of ancestral lineages of characteristic black, brown, yellow, red, white ancestral lineages here today.

Account ability by chromosomes to streaming DNA numbers that are considered 8.2 billion humans here this rotation. Naturally limited to ancestral time adapting specifically alive so far.

So you rather die saving anything else is [possible philosophies than correct human corruption misleading every generation gap added socially last 7,000 years?

This is why Charlie Kirk was shot. This is why Trump was shot at. This is why Jesus got nailed to a cross. Everything humanity does socially prevent ancestors from being honest about why they exist now.

TwoIfByTea » 12 Sep 2025, 7:43 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2025, 7:43 am

Another Zerohedge the next rate cut cycles wont benefit you.

But one side of Zerohedge supports rate cuts because Trump says so..

Other see the whole picture and gutting interest rates now will just pump more into Stock Market and Gold could be 5 grand an ounce next year..

Those with assets do Great the rest of us pay thru ya guessed it more INFLATION and Higher prices lower our living standards..

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/next- ... ur-benefit

Everything has checks and balances...

gen pop are pisspoor consumers and their own worst enemy...

they  see lower interest rates as more buying power vs more saving power 

inflation sucks as joe proved that recently...
 

ROG62 » 12 Sep 2025, 8:16 am » wrote: ↑

12 Sep 2025, 8:16 am

Everything has checks and balances...

gen pop are pisspoor consumers and their own worst enemy...

they  see lower interest rates as more buying power vs more saving power 

inflation sucks as joe proved that recently...

I like how we conviently forget that Trump and Congress approved printed the First 5 trillion of Covid Simulus in 2020.

Same with illegal immigrant truckers heck they been on the road as long as I can remeber even as far back the late 90s early 2000s.

But the naritive and talking points its all the last 4 years under Joe Biden and his fault