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Trump promises Back Off Sanctions and NATO
Trump promises Back Off Sanctions and NATO
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13 Sep 2025 5:00 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
14 Sep 2025 4:12 pm
Welp Russia is very "Resource Rich"..
Sanction just cut access to Western Banking systems and Insurance Underwritting but Russia got plenty Sell their stuff way cheaper unsing backdoor ways of finances doing trade in Domestic Curriencies and Gold Siver at a drastically reduced price comparable the Export Market Value whatever Commodities..
Take like China India buying Russias oil..
Same exact thingy with metals and other minerals thru back channels can offer a substantial discount and they trade straight up dont need the "Big Western Banks" to deal with their "Freinds"...
Lets go back China and India Russia provided "Natural Resources" in very large volumes..
China and India trade Yuan or Ruprees for Soviet Rubles..
Sometimes just straight up goods say Moscow trades a tanker of oil for Tv Sets and Cellphones works like that too no "Western Banks" nor underwriters involved
Sanction just cut access to Western Banking systems and Insurance Underwritting but Russia got plenty Sell their stuff way cheaper unsing backdoor ways of finances doing trade in Domestic Curriencies and Gold Siver at a drastically reduced price comparable the Export Market Value whatever Commodities..
Take like China India buying Russias oil..
Same exact thingy with metals and other minerals thru back channels can offer a substantial discount and they trade straight up dont need the "Big Western Banks" to deal with their "Freinds"...
Lets go back China and India Russia provided "Natural Resources" in very large volumes..
China and India trade Yuan or Ruprees for Soviet Rubles..
Sometimes just straight up goods say Moscow trades a tanker of oil for Tv Sets and Cellphones works like that too no "Western Banks" nor underwriters involved
14 Sep 2025 4:13 pm
Weird you couldn't answer my question.Mrkelly » 14 Sep 2025, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑ ? … I didn’t know that sending troops was a possibility
tRump KNOWS that the NATO nations are NEVER going to do what he is asking
the only “master stroke” is tRumps NEW demands give him and his supporters a weave to avoid the TACO label
he KNOWS that Putin couldn’t care less about what tRump wants
14 Sep 2025 4:37 pm
What’s weird isall you wingnuts ask a BUTWHATABOUT question
that has NOTHING to do with my point
then expect me to answer it
a common thing on this board
My point was, TACO tRump decided that he would only sanction Russia if the NATO nations didn’t do what he KNEW they wouldn’t ever do
after all the bluster of his big beautiful sanctions he was gonna put on Russia
tRump wants to blame THEM for HIM not doing what he said he was gonna do
just to avoid the TACO label
and your all important question that you wanted me to answer was
“Why is NATO buying Russian oil, and financing the Ukraine war, while claiming to be on Ukraine's side?”
true tRumper
14 Sep 2025 4:44 pm
This has to be a record for stupid.MR-7 » 13 Sep 2025, 6:46 pm » wrote: ↑
And when it comes to Russia, Trump isn’t playing games. Sanctions aren’t just symbolic—they’re a signal that the U.S. won’t tolerate aggression or energy blackmail.
The US is sanctioning or threatening to sanction anyone (except europeans) who purchases russian energy.
How the **** is Russia gonna "blackmail" countries that DON'T BUY IT'S **** OIL? And who EXCEPT TRUMP is "blackmailing" the people who do?
Be honest - how long was the bus you rode to school?
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You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
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14 Sep 2025 4:46 pm
He's not willing to do it AT ALL.Mrkelly » 14 Sep 2025, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑ tRump found out
tRump found out that Putin is going to do what he wants
tRump said that he would sanction Russia when all NATO nations do the same
And all NATO nations have to stop buying oil oil from Russia
And tariff the **** out of China
He is not willing to do it on his own
He wants THEM to do it, because he is cucking them.
They will buy energy from one source and one source only - and pay accordingly.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 4:48 pm
You're the idiot. You can't read the moves for ****.MR-7 » 14 Sep 2025, 11:12 am » wrote: ↑ You're an IDIOT. it’s common sense.
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He is chumping the Europeans into being isolated and friendless, so that the US can monopolize their energy market. They're being played, duped, cucked.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 4:52 pm
**** your *** copilot ****. Here's reality, child:MR-7 » 14 Sep 2025, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑ CoPilot says this....
Financial Burden
- The U.S. contributes the lion’s share of NATO’s defense spending—more than all other members combined.
- Critics argue that wealthy European nations should shoulder more of their own defense costs.
100% of the money that the US spends is spent with the US MIC.
Same with the Europeans. Bullying them to spend more is the face of REAL capitalism: purchases made through monopoly and compulsion.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 4:56 pm
Russia does not "Blackmail"..Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 4:44 pm » wrote: ↑ This has to be a record for stupid.
The US is sanctioning or threatening to sanction anyone (except europeans) who purchases russian energy.
How the **** is Russia gonna "blackmail" countries that DON'T BUY IT'S **** OIL? And who EXCEPT TRUMP is "blackmailing" the people who do?
Be honest - how long was the bus you rode to school?
What they do is knock 25/30 percent off large "Discount" comparered to Going Rates on World Markets..
Then trade straight up in Domestic Currencies or Manufactured Goods shipments and thats how Bypass the Banking System and Underwriters.
Now the "Sanctions" be more aimed at China , India the 2 largest buyers of Russian produced commodities.....
Several "Land-Locked" Eastern European Nations like Chezch Republic, Hungary, and Slovakia very heavily "Dependant" on Russian pipeline supplied oil and natural gas currently exempted given geographical circumstances they land locked countries but pipelines running
14 Sep 2025 4:59 pm
NATO is nothing without RUSSIA, stooge. NATO NEEDS Russia.MR-7 » 14 Sep 2025, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑ You will never be as smart as CoPilot. I mean, My GOD, you voted for Jimmy Dore. NATO is NOTHING without America, and they know that. NATA needs America. America does not need NATO. Got it?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 5:00 pm
BRICS will tell Trump to **** off.Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2025, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑ That's far too simplistic an answer for what Trump has done. Is is not just one singular action that will pressure Russia to seek peace. Trump has doubled the tariff on India to 50% in order to pressure them to stop buying Russian oil, and he's also told China that he will lower the tariff on them if they stop buying Russian oil. Currently, the only NATO countries still buying Russian oil are Turkey, Hungary, and Slovakia, and their oil purchases are a drop in the bucket compared to India, which is buying 1.75 million barrels per day, and China's Russian oil consumption has been reduced to 1.96 million barrels per day. When those two countries find the Trump tariffs cost their economies too much, they'll reduce their Russian oil purchases further, to drain Putin of his only significant revenue stream, and when that happens, it won't matter how much the 3 NATO countries are buying.
Once again, your insane Trump hatred has led you to ignore those very pertinent facts.
Putin has already done so.
Coupkraine is lost. Get over it.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 5:03 pm
NATO has bought no Russian oil.golfboy » 14 Sep 2025, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑ "Doing it on our own" does nothing.
Why is NATO buying Russian oil, and financing the Ukraine war, while claiming to be on Ukraine's side?
This is a master stroke by Trump, and is the only path forward in ending this war, without sending in troops to die.
Some countries IN nato - like Germany, back when it had an economy - were buying Russian oil. Now they pay three times as much for energy from the US.
The US played Europe like a fiddle and made it a captive customer at thrice the price. Their economies are ****. Now we're bullying them into buying more toys from the MIC.
The only country in NATO still getting meaningless (to Russia) amount of Russian energy is Hungary.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 5:05 pm
Wait, wait, wait.Zeets2 » 14 Sep 2025, 2:18 pm » wrote: ↑ That's because it doesn't matter any longer how little those 3 NATO countries buy from Russia. Putin knows they can't survive if China and India aren't buying their oil. Do you deny that "story", genius?
Are you saying that in order to sell, someone has to buy?
Wow - you really have a **** handle on this thing, dude. Amazing.
India and China will continue to buy from Russia if it hare-lips the governor and turns Trump a different shade of orange, child.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 5:08 pm
Hey, he made a brilliant observation:
Without customers, Russia cannot sell their oil.
He really understands this stuff. That's legendary analysis, that is.
Thing is, they're gonna keep buying Russian energy.
Sadly, zeke is stupid enough to think there is ****-all Trump can do about it.
There isn't ****-all that Trump can do about it.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 5:12 pm
So who exactly is the "Stooge" thenCannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 4:59 pm » wrote: ↑ NATO is nothing without RUSSIA, stooge. NATO NEEDS Russia.
14 Sep 2025 5:13 pm
What - a 20th sanctions package, ya **** rube?ConservativeWave » 14 Sep 2025, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑ I think Trump is TRYING to make some sort of peace deal.. but, I think Putin is just trying to KICK the can down the road...
That SAID... I also think Trump is VERY close to having his fill of it (and probably already has)... so I would expect things to get even TOUGHER for Putin and Russia VERY SOON !!
If the first 19 didn't work, child... you are one dumb ****, son.
That is TRULY odd, isn't it?ConservativeWave » 14 Sep 2025, 3:42 pm » wrote: ↑ For a country that is SO determined to KEEP FIGHTING.. when they are ACTUALLY getting their BUTTS handed to them in SO MANY ways
Almost makes no sense at all.
Maybe there's a detail that you're getting wrong. Let's examine the points that contradict one another.
Lessee, Russia doesn't want peace is one. Russia is losing catastrophically is another.
Yeah - those DO contradict. Which one do you suppose might be false, you silly **** girl?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 5:15 pm
Sure it is.Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 4:52 pm » wrote: ↑ **** your *** copilot ****. Here's reality, child:
100% of the money that the US spends is spent with the US MIC.
Same with the Europeans. Bullying them to spend more is the face of REAL capitalism: purchases made through monopoly and compulsion.
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
14 Sep 2025 5:16 pm
Mr. 7, in the case at hand.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 5:19 pm
Thank you for that admission.
Just because you're stupid, that doesn't mean you have to be dishonest.
You're one of the good ones.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 5:25 pm
Part of Trumps plan to "Reduce" Trade Defecits is through exports of USA produced Oil and Natural Gas which hold very vast "Reserves" of Both..Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑ NATO has bought to Russian oil.
Some countries IN nato - like Germany, back when it had an economy - were buying Russian oil. Now they pay three times as much for energy from the US.
The US played Europe like a fiddle and made it a captive customer at thrice the price. Their economies are ****. Now we're bullying them into buying more toys from the MIC.
The only country in NATO still getting meaningless (to Russia) amount of Russian energy is Hungary.
Especially with Natural Gas has to be liguified or compressed and shipping costs as well..
Russia just has tons of pipelines running from Production Fields directly to Europe already and been that way going back "Former Soviet Union" and pipe-lines direct distribution way "Cheaper" than USA "LNG"
14 Sep 2025 5:31 pm
not very smart are youMR-7 » 14 Sep 2025, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑ You will never be as smart as CoPilot. I mean, My GOD, you voted for Jimmy Dore. NATO is NOTHING without America, and they know that. NATA needs America. America does not need NATO. Got it?
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