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Trump promises Back Off Sanctions and NATO
By Two If By Tea
13 Sep 2025 5:00 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
14 Sep 2025 5:33 pm
With Donald Trump there is no here nor there exactly.nefarious101 » 13 Sep 2025, 6:34 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump to do this Trump to do that....Trump is chaos until the deal is inked
Hes really an overglorifed $ales-Pitch guy..
Lines here then "Negotiate" keep negotiating.
Now that works with Poor Nations who got nothing and "tow the line" or well shall INVADE and Bomb everything to the stone ages and install Puppet Regime but they got zero resouces and no choices but to "Submit" or be destroyed
Russia is very wealthy in Natural Resources plus vast Grain Production..
Russia knows back channels ways get around sanctions plus probably the 2nd 3rd largest "Standing" Military thy Globe besides USA and maybe China...
14 Sep 2025 6:05 pm
Hungary: 5 million tonnes of Russian crude oil in 2024. TASS+3Interfax+3Interfax+3Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑ NATO has bought no Russian oil.
Some countries IN nato - like Germany, back when it had an economy - were buying Russian oil. Now they pay three times as much for energy from the US.
The US played Europe like a fiddle and made it a captive customer at thrice the price. Their economies are ****. Now we're bullying them into buying more toys from the MIC.
The only country in NATO still getting meaningless (to Russia) amount of Russian energy is Hungary.
In first five months of 2025, ~2.196 million tonnes Russian crude to Hungary vs ~1.703 million in same period 2024. cirec.net
Value of “mineral fuels, oils, distillation products” imports from Russia in 2024: US$5.25 billion.
Turkey has bought ≈ $62 billion of oil from Russia (in addition to other energy) over a recent multi‑year period (from Jan 2023–July 2025). Newsweek
In 2024, Turkey imported 225,000 barrels per day of Russian oil (crude + products) as one estimate. Finway
In April 2025, Russian oil products imports to Turkey dropped ~25% year‑on‑year; first four months of 2025: ~US$3.3 billion worth of Russian oil products.
14 Sep 2025 6:09 pm
Hungary is "Land-Locked" no Coast Line..golfboy » 14 Sep 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Hungary: 5 million tonnes of Russian crude oil in 2024. TASS+3Interfax+3Interfax+3
In first five months of 2025, ~2.196 million tonnes Russian crude to Hungary vs ~1.703 million in same period 2024. cirec.net
Value of “mineral fuels, oils, distillation products” imports from Russia in 2024: US$5.25 billion.
Turkey has bought ≈ $62 billion of oil from Russia (in addition to other energy) over a recent multi‑year period (from Jan 2023–July 2025). Newsweek
In 2024, Turkey imported 225,000 barrels per day of Russian oil (crude + products) as one estimate. Finway
In April 2025, Russian oil products imports to Turkey dropped ~25% year‑on‑year; first four months of 2025: ~US$3.3 billion worth of Russian oil products.
Turkey on Seas has Coast Lines and ship ports easier find new "Suppliers"..
14 Sep 2025 6:51 pm
So in a FREE MARKET, Europewould be buying from Russia. Because it is the cheapest by several times.TwoIfByTea » 14 Sep 2025, 5:25 pm » wrote: ↑ Part of Trumps plan to "Reduce" Trade Defecits is through exports of USA produced Oil and Natural Gas which hold very vast "Reserves" of Both..
Especially with Natural Gas has to be liguified or compressed and shipping costs as well..
Russia just has tons of pipelines running from Production Fields directly to Europe already and been that way going back "Former Soviet Union" and pipe-lines direct distribution way "Cheaper" than USA "LNG"
But Capitalism always comes calling with a gun in its hand.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
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"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 7:01 pm
Less than one percent of production.golfboy » 14 Sep 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Hungary: 5 million tonnes of Russian crude oil in 2024. TASS+3Interfax+3Interfax+3
In first five months of 2025, ~2.196 million tonnes Russian crude to Hungary vs ~1.703 million in same period 2024. cirec.net
Value of “mineral fuels, oils, distillation products” imports from Russia in 2024: US$5.25 billion.
Got it. A relatively meaningless customer to Russia.
Please, continue.
Oh, my bad. I forgot about Turkey. For some reason, I often forget that Turkey is NATO.golfboy » 14 Sep 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Turkey has bought ≈ $62 billion of oil from Russia (in addition to other energy) over a recent multi‑year period (from Jan 2023–July 2025). Newsweek
I think it's being the only NATO country in Asia (nowhere near the North Atlantic), and being the only NATO country whose terrorists America has armed and funded (Kurdish terror groups active in Turkey).
That's 2% - twice the size customer as Hungary.golfboy » 14 Sep 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑In 2024, Turkey imported 225,000 barrels per day of Russian oil (crude + products) as one estimate.
So... Russia lost 25% of 2%.golfboy » 14 Sep 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑ In April 2025, Russian oil products imports to Turkey dropped ~25% year‑on‑year; first four months of 2025: ~US$3.3 billion worth of Russian oil products.
That's gonna leave a mark.
It won't be very easy to see, but still. A mark. My God, I wonder ifthey'll be able to sell that half of a percent elsewhere...
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 7:04 pm
You know how Coupkraine is a sovereign failed state and has a right to join any club that'll have it?golfboy » 14 Sep 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Hungary: 5 million tonnes of Russian crude oil in 2024. TASS+3Interfax+3Interfax+3
In first five months of 2025, ~2.196 million tonnes Russian crude to Hungary vs ~1.703 million in same period 2024. cirec.net
Value of “mineral fuels, oils, distillation products” imports from Russia in 2024: US$5.25 billion.
Turkey has bought ≈ $62 billion of oil from Russia (in addition to other energy) over a recent multi‑year period (from Jan 2023–July 2025). Newsweek
In 2024, Turkey imported 225,000 barrels per day of Russian oil (crude + products) as one estimate. Finway
In April 2025, Russian oil products imports to Turkey dropped ~25% year‑on‑year; first four months of 2025: ~US$3.3 billion worth of Russian oil products.
Yeah, well, India and China have a right to buy their oil where it makes sense to buy their oil
You know - sovereign nations and all that.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 7:05 pm
Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 7:04 pm » wrote: ↑ You know how Coupkraine is a sovereign failed state and has a right to join any club that'll have it?
Yeah, well, India and China have a right to buy their oil where it makes sense to buy their oil
You know - sovereign nations and all that.
I think the opposition believe it's akin to funding the enemy.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
14 Sep 2025 7:21 pm
I'm sorry - I haven't been keeping up.DeezerShoove » 14 Sep 2025, 7:05 pm » wrote: ↑ I think the opposition believe it's akin to funding the enemy.
Are we in a war?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 8:06 pm
Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 7:21 pm » wrote: ↑ I'm sorry - I haven't been keeping up.
Are we in a war?
We must be. This ****'s being taken so seriously.
It's probably the War on Illiteracy. Or maybe Smoking.
War on Poverty.
Too damn many Wars on ****.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
14 Sep 2025 8:18 pm
Oh its deeper than that ..Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 6:51 pm » wrote: ↑ So in a FREE MARKET, Europewould be buying from Russia. Because it is the cheapest by several times.
But Capitalism always comes calling with a gun in its hand.
Take Saudia Arabia and Others like Dubai the "United Emerites" and Quatar..
Back during the 1970s Oil Embargo we negotioated defense and weapons sales to their Kingdoms in return they agreed Sell their oil "exclusively" in USA Dollars and invest their reserves buying up our Bonds/Treasuries hence the "Petro/Dollar" was "Born" half a Century ago..
Since the 1970s we have found vast new "Domestic" Resveres of Oil as well as new extration technology..
We do not really need their oil anymore like back them days.
But still in our National "Interests" to maintain the "Petro Dollar" as well as Allied Military Cooperation and weapons deals to this very day
14 Sep 2025 8:22 pm
Too much propaganda.DeezerShoove » 14 Sep 2025, 8:06 pm » wrote: ↑ We must be. This ****'s being taken so seriously.
It's probably the War on Illiteracy. Or maybe Smoking.
War on Poverty.
Too damn many Wars on ****.
The same coterie of homosexuals who delight in rote-parroting, "Coupkraine is a sovereign nation and no one has a right to tell em what clubs they can join" will cheer like good little diapered apes when someone suggests we have a right to tell Chyna and Inja who they can buy their **** earl from.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 8:24 pm
Except the petro dollar is dead. OPEC will sell you oil in many different currencies.TwoIfByTea » 14 Sep 2025, 8:18 pm » wrote: ↑ Oh its deeper than that ..
Take Saudia Arabia and Others like Dubai the "United Emerites" and Quatar..
Back during the 1970s Oil Embargo we negotioated defense and weapons sales to their Kingdoms in return they agreed Sell their oil "exclusively" in USA Dollars and invest their reserves buying up our Bonds/Treasuries hence the "Petro/Dollar" was "Born" half a Century ago..
Since the 1970s we have found vast new "Domestic" Resveres of Oil as well as new extration technology..
We do not really need their oil anymore like back them days.
But still in our National "Interests" to maintain the "Petro Dollar" as well as Allied Military Cooperation and weapons deals to this very day
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Sep 2025 8:34 pm
tRump means you're a childish little bitch mR queerly.Mrkelly » 14 Sep 2025, 10:23 am » wrote: ↑ tRump found out
tRump found out that Putin is going to do what he wants
tRump said that he would sanction Russia when all NATO nations do the same
And all NATO nations have to stop buying oil oil from Russia
And tariff the **** out of China
He is not willing to do it on his own
14 Sep 2025 9:24 pm
Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 8:22 pm » wrote: ↑ Too much propaganda.
The same coterie of homosexuals who delight in rote-parroting, "Coupkraine is a sovereign nation and no one has a right to tell em what clubs they can join" will cheer like good little diapered apes when someone suggests we have a right to tell Chyna and Inja who they can buy their **** earl from.
Smoking cheap **** makes people stupid.
See how I connected Wars on Poverty, Smoking, Illiteracy . . . ?
This is my War on Humor.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
15 Sep 2025 6:28 am
He says this and says that.nefarious101 » 13 Sep 2025, 6:34 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump to do this Trump to do that....Trump is chaos until the deal is inked
Signifying nothing.
He's an idiot.
15 Sep 2025 6:38 am
Blackvegetable » 15 Sep 2025, 6:28 am » wrote: ↑ He says this and says that.
Signifying nothing.
He's an idiot.
Hey TDS infested Fake News Dickhead...
he's winning
you're losing....who's the idiot
he's president
you're a TDS infested Fake News Posting Dickhead for a over decade...who's the idiot
He has America on his side....winning!!
You got nothing but ***, trannies and the mentally ill on your side....who's the idiot
15 Sep 2025 6:41 am
How is Amerca doing, SoyBoy?nefarious101 » 15 Sep 2025, 6:38 am » wrote: ↑ Hey TDS infested Fake News Dickhead...
he's winning
you're losing....who's the idiot
he's president
you're a TDS infested Fake News Posting Dickhead for a over decade...who's the idiot
He has America on his side....winning!!
You got nothing but ***, trannies and the mentally ill on your side....who's the idiot
With a net approval rating of -7.6, Trump is still more popular than himself at this point during his first term (-15.0) and less popular than Joe Biden in the same period (-1.6).He has America on his side....winning!!
15 Sep 2025 7:37 am
Blackvegetable » 15 Sep 2025, 6:41 am » wrote: ↑ How is Amerca doing, SoyBoy?
With a net approval rating of -7.6, Trump is still more popular than himself at this point during his first term (-15.0) and less popular than Joe Biden in the same period (-1.6).
**** you and your fake ****
15 Sep 2025 10:09 am
You're one funny imbecile!Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 5:05 pm » wrote: ↑ Wait, wait, wait.
Are you saying that in order to sell, someone has to buy?
Wow - you really have a **** handle on this thing, dude. Amazing.
India and China will continue to buy from Russia if it hare-lips the governor and turns Trump a different shade of orange, child.
Yet, you're completely unaware of how Trump's edicts have affected Russian oil sales, so let me educate your stupid self once again:
India's state refiners halt Russian oil purchases:
Hindustan Times By HT News Desk 8/1/25
India's refiners have not purchased Russian oil for the last week, marking a dramatic turn in one of Moscow's strongest energy relationships since the onset war in Ukraine, Reuters reported.
Over the past month, India along with China and Brazil, has been at the centre of criticism from the West, for its purchase of Russian oil. Indian Oil Corp, Hindustan Petroleum Corp, Bharat Petroleum Corp and Mangalore Refinery Petrochemical Ltd are the state refiners in the country that have not acquired Russian crude in the last week or so, four sources, who were aware of the refiners' buying plans, told the news agency. India, the world's third-largest oil importer, is the biggest buyer of seaborne Russian crude, a vital revenue earner for Russia. Russia, is India's leading supplier, with around 35% of India's total supplies.
Why India halted purchases of oil from Russia.
The action follows narrowing price discounts on Russian crude and renewed threats from US President Donald Trump to impose punitive tariffs on countries buying oil from Moscow, the agency reported. With discounts now at their lowest since 2022, India's economic rationale for importing from Moscow has weakened. India is substituting Russia with alternative sources to meet the supply deficit, sources said.
Indian state refiners halt Russian oil imports as US threatens penalty:
State-run refiners in India have halted Russian oil purchases in the past week due to shrinking discounts and mounting pressure from President Donald Trump's threats of tariffs and sanctions.
New Delhi 8/1/25
So genius, are you ready to give it up to Trump for the successful policy to starve Russia's revenue in order to bring them to the negotiating table to end the war? Or can we expect your insane hatred of Trump to continue unabated simply because you're a lying, uneducated moron?Beijing slams Trump's call for NATO countries to stop buying Russian oil, hit China with heavy tariffs
The Associated Press 9/13/25
Britain's taken action on Russian oil trading
The US and its allies are seeking to show a firmer degree of resolve against Russia.
Britain took steps to penalize the trading of Russian oil, including a ban on 70 vessels allegedly used in its transportation. The UK also sanctioned 30 individuals and companies, included businesses based in China and Turkey, that have supplied Russia with electronics, chemicals, explosives and weapons components.
In his Saturday post, Trump said a NATO ban on Russian oil plus tariffs on China would "also be of great help in ENDING this deadly, but RIDICULOUS, WAR."
He said NATO members should put heavy tariffs on China and withdraw them if there's an end to the war.
"China has a strong control, and even grip, over Russia," Trump's post says, and powerful tariffs "will break that grip."
The US has already imposed a 25% import tax on goods from India, specifically for its buying of Russian energy.
So that trade talks could proceed, the US lowered its tariffs against China to a still-high 30%, while China took its rate to 10 per cent.
15 Sep 2025 10:13 am
I couldn't care less whether or not Ukraine survives, but ending the war would be a huge win for Trump, obviously something a vociferous Trump hating blowhard like you can't stand.Cannonpointer » 14 Sep 2025, 5:00 pm » wrote: ↑ BRICS will tell Trump to **** off.
Putin has already done so.
Coupkraine is lost. Get over it.
So YOU "get over it", ******!
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