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including 40% of dems…..even a **** up 19th Century Russian Studies Dweeb should understand this when he isn’t stoned.

Sixty-five percent of Americans — including nearly 40% of Democrats — believe Democrats should accept a continuing resolution at current spending levels, even without an extension for Obamacare subsidies, according to a Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released Monday. 



Only 35% felt Democrats should hold out for additional funding.“Democrats own this,” Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) said from Senate floor Monday. “They own any lapse in funding for critical food aid programs, just as they own every other negative effect of this shutdown. Because let’s remember, the only reason the government is shut down is because Democrats refused to accept a clean, nonpartisan funding extension.”

Huey » 06 Oct 2025, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2025, 7:19 pm

including 40% of dems…..even a **** up 19th Century Russian Studies Dweeb should understand this when he isn’t stoned.

Sixty-five percent of Americans — including nearly 40% of Democrats — believe Democrats should accept a continuing resolution at current spending levels, even without an extension for Obamacare subsidies, according to a Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released Monday. 

Only 35% felt Democrats should hold out for additional funding.“Democrats own this,” Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) said from Senate floor Monday. “They own any lapse in funding for critical food aid programs, just as they own every other negative effect of this shutdown. Because let’s remember, the only reason the government is shut down is because Democrats refused to accept a clean, nonpartisan funding extension.”

it just shows **** schumer is bowing to aoc and her posse...
 

Dems want tax dollars for illegals to get votes. It's disgusting.

Huey » 06 Oct 2025, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2025, 7:19 pm

including 40% of dems…..even a **** up 19th Century Russian Studies Dweeb should understand this when he isn’t stoned.

Sixty-five percent of Americans — including nearly 40% of Democrats — believe Democrats should accept a continuing resolution at current spending levels, even without an extension for Obamacare subsidies, according to a  no spam released Monday. 

Only 35% felt Democrats should hold out for additional funding.“Democrats own this,” Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) said from Senate floor Monday. “They own any lapse in funding for critical food aid programs, just as they own every other negative effect of this shutdown. Because let’s remember, the only reason the government is shut down is because Democrats refused to accept a clean, nonpartisan funding extension.”

I don't want my health care costs to sky rocket.  
 

PhiloBeddo » 06 Oct 2025, 10:35 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2025, 10:35 pm

Dems want tax dollars for illegals to get votes. It's disgusting.

Your beddo is philo'd with bullshyt.  

Can you prove your claim?  Can you prove any significant number of illegal undocumented immigrants voted?

Although instances are rare, some illegal undocumented immigrants have voted in U.S. elections. There is no evidence, however, of widespread non-citizen voting that has affected the outcome of an election. 
Factors and contributing issues

• Severe penalties: Federal law has prohibited non-citizens from voting in federal elections since 1996, with penalties that include fines, imprisonment, and deportation. This serves as a strong deterrent for those who may risk future citizenship or their legal status by voting.
• Errors in voter registration: Some non-citizens have been added to voter rolls by mistake. These errors can happen through automatic voter registration systems, such as when obtaining a driver's license, especially when state databases are not up-to-date.
• Mistaken information: Some non-citizens who have legally been in the country for years have cast ballots after being misinformed that they were eligible to vote.
• Non-federal elections: In some municipalities, non-citizens are legally permitted to vote in certain local elections, such as for school boards or city council. Processes are in place to ensure these non-citizens do not receive ballots for federal or state races. 

Documented examples

• A 2017 analysis by the Brennan Center for Justice of 42 jurisdictions found 30 suspected cases of non-citizen voting out of 23.5 million votes in the 2016 election.
• A federal grand jury in North Carolina indicted 19 foreign nationals for unlawfully voting in the 2016 election.
• A 2024 review of a conservative database found 85 cases related to non-citizen voting allegations over a 21-year period, with one analysis finding that just 10 of those cases involved undocumented immigrants.
• In October 2024, Georgia's Secretary of State referred 20 suspected non-citizens on voter rolls (out of 8.2 million registered voters) to law enforcement after an audit found they had a history of voting. 

Misleading claims

• False claims of widespread non-citizen voting often resurface during election seasons.
• A widely disputed 2014 study that claimed high rates of non-citizen voting has been discredited by other political scientists and the original survey's creators.
• Misleading videos and reports designed to inflate the perception of non-citizen voting have been debunked by fact-checkers. 

 

JohnnyYou » 07 Oct 2025, 3:50 am » wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2025, 3:50 am

I don't want my health care costs to sky rocket.

Do you live under a **** rock?  Your HC costs have gone up almost every year.

From WAPO:

Yet Democrats have demanded that Republicans agree to extend the covid-era insurance subsidies without proposing any way to pay for it. The Congressional Budget Office estimates this will cost $350 billion over the next decade. These temporary benefits were included in the American Rescue Plan of March 2021 and extended the next year in the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act until the end of 2025.

 The real problem is that the Affordable Care Act was never actually affordable. President Barack Obama’s signature achievement allowed people to buy insurance on marketplaces with subsidies based on their income. The architects of the program assumed that risk pools would be bigger than they turned out to be. As a result, policies cost more than expected.

To salvage the program, Democrats expanded subsidies to entice more people to buy plans. Many poor families wound up getting insurance for free, and the rolls grew: 24 million people now have coverage through the ACA exchanges. People earning more than 400 percent of the poverty line — about $129,000 for a family of four — would see their subsidies go away.Democrats picked this fight because they see health care as a winning issue. A Post poll, conducted on the first day of the shutdown, found that 71 percent of Americans say federal insurance subsidies should be extended while 29 percent say they should end as scheduled. Just as significantly, the question divides Republicans: 38 percent support extending the subsidies, and 62 percent want them to end.

 This is how entitlement programs work. Once you habituate people to some generous government handout, they grow dependent on it. And it becomes politically perilous, if not impossible, to fully claw it back. Conservatives fought so hard to stop Obamacare 15 years ago because they anticipated fights like this one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... dies-debt/
 
 

Huey » 07 Oct 2025, 4:53 am » wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2025, 4:53 am

Do you live under a **** rock?  Your HC costs have gone up almost every year.

From WAPO:

Yet Democrats have demanded that Republicans agree to extend the covid-era insurance subsidies without proposing any way to pay for it. The  no spam  this will cost $350 billion over the next decade. These temporary benefits were included in the American Rescue Plan of March 2021 and extended the next year in the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act until the end of 2025.

 The real problem is that the Affordable Care Act was never actually affordable. President Barack Obama’s signature achievement allowed people to buy insurance on marketplaces with subsidies based on their income. The architects of the program assumed that risk pools would be bigger than they turned out to be. As a result, policies cost more than expected.

To salvage the program, Democrats expanded subsidies to entice more people to buy plans. Many poor families wound up getting insurance for free, and the rolls grew:  no spam  now have coverage through the ACA exchanges. People earning more than 400 percent of the poverty line — about  no spam  — would see their subsidies go away.Democrats picked this fight because they see health care as a winning issue. A Post poll,  no spam , found that 71 percent of Americans say federal insurance subsidies should be extended while 29 percent say they should end as scheduled. Just as significantly, the question divides Republicans: 38 percent support extending the subsidies, and 62 percent want them to end.

 This is how entitlement programs work. Once you habituate people to some generous government handout, they grow dependent on it. And it becomes politically perilous, if not impossible, to fully claw it back. Conservatives fought so hard to stop Obamacare 15 years ago because they anticipated fights like this one.

washingtonpost /opinions/2025/10/05/government-shutdown-aca-subsidies-debt/

We'll see Trump's HC plan in two weeks?  Somehow I sense it'll be a ripoff of the poor guy like everything else has. Not that HC hasn't been forever.

Huey » 07 Oct 2025, 4:53 am » wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2025, 4:53 am

Do you live under a **** rock?  Your HC costs have gone up almost every year.

From WAPO:

Yet Democrats have demanded that Republicans agree to extend the covid-era insurance subsidies without proposing any way to pay for it. The Congressional Budget Office estimates this will cost $350 billion over the next decade. These temporary benefits were included in the American Rescue Plan of March 2021 and extended the next year in the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act until the end of 2025.

 The real problem is that the Affordable Care Act was never actually affordable. President Barack Obama’s signature achievement allowed people to buy insurance on marketplaces with subsidies based on their income. The architects of the program assumed that risk pools would be bigger than they turned out to be. As a result, policies cost more than expected.

To salvage the program, Democrats expanded subsidies to entice more people to buy plans. Many poor families wound up getting insurance for free, and the rolls grew: 24 million people now have coverage through the ACA exchanges. People earning more than 400 percent of the poverty line — about $129,000 for a family of four — would see their subsidies go away.Democrats picked this fight because they see health care as a winning issue. A Post poll, conducted on the first day of the shutdown, found that 71 percent of Americans say federal insurance subsidies should be extended while 29 percent say they should end as scheduled. Just as significantly, the question divides Republicans: 38 percent support extending the subsidies, and 62 percent want them to end.

 This is how entitlement programs work. Once you habituate people to some generous government handout, they grow dependent on it. And it becomes politically perilous, if not impossible, to fully claw it back. Conservatives fought so hard to stop Obamacare 15 years ago because they anticipated fights like this one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... dies-debt/

YOU mean one of @Blackvegetable  's sources actually tells the TRUTH and now what will our forum IDIOT have to say about it??

Any wagers he RUNS?? OR tries to change the subject in short order.

JohnnyYou » 07 Oct 2025, 3:50 am » wrote: ↑

07 Oct 2025, 3:50 am

I don't want my health care costs to sky rocket.

Smoke another cigarette, you'll get over it.

Huey » 06 Oct 2025, 7:19 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Oct 2025, 7:19 pm

including 40% of dems…..even a **** up 19th Century Russian Studies Dweeb should understand this when he isn’t stoned.

Sixty-five percent of Americans — including nearly 40% of Democrats — believe Democrats should accept a continuing resolution at current spending levels, even without an extension for Obamacare subsidies, according to a Harvard CAPS/Harris poll released Monday. 

Only 35% felt Democrats should hold out for additional funding.“Democrats own this,” Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) said from Senate floor Monday. “They own any lapse in funding for critical food aid programs, just as they own every other negative effect of this shutdown. Because let’s remember, the only reason the government is shut down is because Democrats refused to accept a clean, nonpartisan funding extension.”

Yea... because THAT is the Common Sense thing to do !

Hope you owned some Healthcare stocks!

Following the implementation of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), the health insurance industry saw a surge in revenues and profits, primarily driven by new government subsidies and the expansion of Medicaid. While the ACA's individual market posed initial challenges for insurers, the industry as a whole—particularly the largest companies—has thrived financially.

Overview of profit growth
Since the ACA was enacted in 2010, the largest health insurers have experienced significant increases in revenue and profits.

Total profits: A December 2024 analysis found that the largest health insurers collectively profited over $371 billion since the ACA's passage.

Increased revenue: The combined revenue for the six largest for-profit insurers more than quadrupled from $245.2 billion in 2010 to over $1.1 trillion by 2021.

Skyrocketing stock prices: In the first few years after the ACA's key provisions took effect in 2014, health insurance stock prices outpaced the S&P 500 index by more than 100 percentage points, according to a 2018 White House report.

Key drivers of insurer profitability
Several provisions and market dynamics created by the ACA have contributed to insurers' increased profitability:
Government subsidies: Insurers have benefited from a massive influx of taxpayer money through federal premium tax credits, which help millions of Americans afford coverage on the ACA exchanges. Since the subsidies are designed to cap what individuals pay, insurers have less incentive for price competition and can charge higher premiums, with taxpayers covering the majority of the cost.

Medicaid expansion: The ACA's expansion of Medicaid to low-income adults has been a significant driver of profits, particularly for large insurers that manage Medicaid plans. Insurers are paid high, federally subsidized rates to cover new enrollees through private managed care organizations.

Industry consolidation: Since the ACA was enacted, major insurers have consolidated by acquiring competitors, pharmacies, and pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs). This vertical integration allows them to inflate medical spending within their own corporate structure while shifting profits to less-regulated parts of their business.