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It's an old documentary for sure but the history lesson is still there.

It's a three-part series hour and a half or two hours depending which part being watched.
I'm through 1 & 2.

One of the very piquant details was how drunk as a nation we were such that women really drove the change. There were several "causes" wrapped up in a weird symbiosis, too. Sufferage, schooling and child labor, immigration, etc. It took many years and lots of pissed off people to get to the point of a constitutional amendment. False starts and more time passing and one eerie detail:
Groups forced into schools scary stories and propaganda about alcohol. Misleading and downright lies to very young children.

Those people grew up with this stuff swimming in their heads a couple decades before prohibition got legs.
It took that kind of long-range effort to reach the goal.

I instantly thought of our wonderful *** in Schools these days. Propaganda/indoctrination.
Prohibition brought so many unforeseen terrible consequences it was repealed. The only amendment ever repealed.
At least 20 years in the making partially through children in school.

btw
Streaming it free on  "hoopla" app. Just need a library card to access hoopla.

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Edit update Oct 17:
Finished Pt3 a couple days ago.
Overall review is that it is "Ken Burns long" but I found it very interesting throughout. I'm no history buff but picking up the thinking of the day and resulting clamor for change is instructive. Groupthink and damn-the-torpedoes set in motion elements we face even today.
I'm glad I watched it.

DeezerShoove » 14 Oct 2025, 8:10 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Oct 2025, 8:10 pm

It's an old documentary for sure but the history lesson is still there.

It's a three-part series hour and a half or two hours depending which part being watched.
I'm through 1 & 2.

One of the very piquant details was how drunk as a nation we were such that women really drove the change. There were several "causes" wrapped up in a weird symbiosis, too. Sufferage, schooling and child labor, immigration, etc. It took many years and lots of pissed off people to get to the point of a constitutional amendment. False starts and more time passing and one eerie detail:
Groups forced into schools scary stories and propaganda about alcohol. Misleading and downright lies to very young children.

Those people grew up with this stuff swimming in their heads a couple decades before prohibition got legs.
It took that kind of long-range effort to reach the goal.

I instantly thought of our wonderful *** in Schools these days. Propaganda/indoctrination.
Prohibition brought so many unforeseen terrible consequences it was repealed. The only amendment ever repealed.
At least 20 years in the making partially through children in school.

btw
Streaming it free on  "hoopla" app. Just need a library card to access hoopla.

Reefer Madness and Joe McCarthy comes to mind...
 
 

DeezerShoove » 14 Oct 2025, 8:10 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Oct 2025, 8:10 pm

It's an old documentary for sure but the history lesson is still there.

It's a three-part series hour and a half or two hours depending which part being watched.
I'm through 1 & 2.

One of the very piquant details was how drunk as a nation we were such that women really drove the change. There were several "causes" wrapped up in a weird symbiosis, too. Sufferage, schooling and child labor, immigration, etc. It took many years and lots of pissed off people to get to the point of a constitutional amendment. False starts and more time passing and one eerie detail:
Groups forced into schools scary stories and propaganda about alcohol. Misleading and downright lies to very young children.

Those people grew up with this stuff swimming in their heads a couple decades before prohibition got legs.
It took that kind of long-range effort to reach the goal.

I instantly thought of our wonderful *** in Schools these days. Propaganda/indoctrination.
Prohibition brought so many unforeseen terrible consequences it was repealed. The only amendment ever repealed.
At least 20 years in the making partially through children in school.

btw
Streaming it free on  "hoopla" app. Just need a library card to access hoopla.

Buffallo Trace Distillery was one of two allowed to stay open during prohibition for medical alcohol. If your ever in Kentucky, the tours are fantastic and a lot of fun.

Evidently, Momma need a quart a week to rub on the babies gums for teething.  It also helped keep hubby drunk and not beating her up.
 

DeezerShoove » 14 Oct 2025, 8:10 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Oct 2025, 8:10 pm

It's an old documentary for sure but the history lesson is still there.

It's a three-part series hour and a half or two hours depending which part being watched.
I'm through 1 & 2.

One of the very piquant details was how drunk as a nation we were such that women really drove the change. There were several "causes" wrapped up in a weird symbiosis, too. Sufferage, schooling and child labor, immigration, etc. It took many years and lots of pissed off people to get to the point of a constitutional amendment. False starts and more time passing and one eerie detail:
Groups forced into schools scary stories and propaganda about alcohol. Misleading and downright lies to very young children.

Those people grew up with this stuff swimming in their heads a couple decades before prohibition got legs.
It took that kind of long-range effort to reach the goal.

I instantly thought of our wonderful *** in Schools these days. Propaganda/indoctrination.
Prohibition brought so many unforeseen terrible consequences it was repealed. The only amendment ever repealed.
At least 20 years in the making partially through children in school.

btw
Streaming it free on  "hoopla" app. Just need a library card to access hoopla.

I love watching documentaries. I'll have to check this out. 

Alcohol is an interesting drug. America seems like it could live without harder drugs. But when it comes to the idea of removing alcohol, we go ape ****. I drink occasionally. It's enjoyable. However, I am unclear as to why alcohol is so much closer to our lives than the other drugs. It's just as dangerous as anything else. 
 

Vegas » 15 Oct 2025, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Oct 2025, 12:59 pm

I love watching documentaries. I'll have to check this out. 

Alcohol is an interesting drug. America seems like it could live without harder drugs. But when it comes to the idea of removing alcohol, we go ape ****. I drink occasionally. It's enjoyable. However, I am unclear as to why alcohol is so much closer to our lives than the other drugs. It's just as dangerous as anything else.

I was intrigued by how interconnected the various "causes" were back in the day.
They sort of fed off of each other until a sort of "perfect storm" brought a constitutional amendment (18th) that helped create organized crime, fellow citizens squealing on each other, wire tapping, poisoning customers for profit with bad product, affected elections including even FDR's campaign, and much more.
 

DeezerShoove » 15 Oct 2025, 1:23 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Oct 2025, 1:23 pm

I was intrigued by how interconnected the various "causes" were back in the day.
They sort of fed off of each other until a sort of "perfect storm" brought a constitutional amendment (18th) that helped create organized crime, fellow citizens squealing on each other, wire tapping, poisoning customers for profit with bad product, affected elections including even FDR's campaign, and much more.

I often wonder what American society would be like if we legalized all drugs. Organized crime would be down. 

Vegas » 15 Oct 2025, 1:28 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Oct 2025, 1:28 pm

I often wonder what American society would be like if we legalized all drugs. Organized crime would be down.

As would the population. People would eventually stop caring about much else.

Vegas » Today, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 12:59 pm

I love watching documentaries. I'll have to check this out. 

Alcohol is an interesting drug. America seems like it could live without harder drugs. But when it comes to the idea of removing alcohol, we go ape ****. I drink occasionally. It's enjoyable. However, I am unclear as to why alcohol is so much closer to our lives than the other drugs. It's just as dangerous as anything else.

Even the animal kingdom loves fermented stuff.

Coffee is a drug technically..  

Alcohol is far more dangerous  than Cannabis. I could smoke an ounce of a Sativa and drive.. with sufficient  caffeine supplements .  I am so grateful we finally have almost won Nancy Reagans war on Pot.. Had it not been a cock blocker to employment to use the substance I could have had more opportunities  and paid more tax revenue in my lifetime.. I hope we get it off Schedule with Heroine.

RFK reportedly said his heroine addiction improved his grades in college..






 

I've been a poster here in NHB for years. It's interesting how so many people can call other people stupid.
That's not necessarily such a bad thing...

But a thread called "Duh" becomes active.   

Seems like stupid is all we gots. People won't read more than three lines. Stupid or too busy?
King Duh or PortaJohnny . . .  I kind of doubt they're too busy.  


This was just a bump, by the way.  

DeezerShoove » 16 Oct 2025, 7:09 am » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2025, 7:09 am

I've been a poster here in NHB for years. It's interesting how so many people can call other people stupid.
That's not necessarily such a bad thing...

But a thread called "Duh" becomes active.   

Seems like stupid is all we gots. People won't read more than three lines. Stupid or too busy?
King Duh or PortaJohnny . . .  I kind of doubt they're too busy.  

This was just a bump, by the way.

I thought it was his best thread title to date.....an admission of his cognizant abilities and a heart felt plea for help.

RebelGator » 16 Oct 2025, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2025, 7:18 am

I thought it was his best thread title to date.....an admission of his cognizant abilities and a heart felt plea for help.

I didn't bother. Seeing who owns the thread and the title says it all.

bump

Just because I learned a little from the documentary.
Also people here need to try to be teachable once in a while.

Anybody else get tired of You nazi, You retard, page after page?

Jus' sayin', ***...

DeezerShoove » 14 Oct 2025, 8:10 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Oct 2025, 8:10 pm

It's an old documentary for sure but the history lesson is still there.

It's a three-part series hour and a half or two hours depending which part being watched.
I'm through 1 & 2.

One of the very piquant details was how drunk as a nation we were such that women really drove the change. There were several "causes" wrapped up in a weird symbiosis, too. Sufferage, schooling and child labor, immigration, etc. It took many years and lots of pissed off people to get to the point of a constitutional amendment. False starts and more time passing and one eerie detail:
Groups forced into schools scary stories and propaganda about alcohol. Misleading and downright lies to very young children.

Those people grew up with this stuff swimming in their heads a couple decades before prohibition got legs.
It took that kind of long-range effort to reach the goal.

I instantly thought of our wonderful *** in Schools these days. Propaganda/indoctrination.
Prohibition brought so many unforeseen terrible consequences it was repealed. The only amendment ever repealed.
At least 20 years in the making partially through children in school.

btw
Streaming it free on  "hoopla" app. Just need a library card to access hoopla.

-- 

Edit update Oct 17:
Finished Pt3 a couple days ago.
Overall review is that it is "Ken Burns long" but I found it very interesting throughout. I'm no history buff but picking up the thinking of the day and resulting clamor for change is instructive. Groupthink and damn-the-torpedoes set in motion elements we face even today.
I'm glad I watched it.

This is much, much shorter but a wonderful and fact-filled history lesson. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8&t=51s
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Oct 2025, 11:30 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Oct 2025, 11:30 pm

This is much, much shorter but a wonderful and fact-filled history lesson. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6xJzAYYrX8&t=51s

The Space Race had nothing to do with the Russians.

I heard Sputnik was the size of a basketball for very obvious reasons.
Typical of white people, the Russians took credit for it and ****** marginalized.