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We are on the ground.
 

Punch » 20 Oct 2025, 8:32 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 8:32 pm

We are on the ground.

Where we are not invited and not at war - which makes it unConstitutional. 

This violates the princples of those who have them. 
 

Cannonpointer » 20 Oct 2025, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 8:57 pm

Where we are not invited and not at war - which makes it unConstitutional. 

This violates the princples of those who have them.

They said the same thing about Bush Sr. when he invaded Panama and arrested Noriega for EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.  I knew someone who was involved. He told me they used bulldozers to bury about 3,000 people in mass graves on the beach following the invasion. Good for Trump. Those **** are killing almost 80,000 Americans every single year. That is more that the total amount lost in the Viet Nam war.

Punch » 20 Oct 2025, 8:32 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 8:32 pm

We are on the ground.

And closed damn it..  What a **** up.   One more perversion of diversion from the Epstien Files.

This one could kill American soldiers.

Military is gonna quit.
 

Punch » 21 Oct 2025, 3:53 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 3:53 am

They said the same thing about Bush Sr. when he invaded Panama and arrested Noriega for EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.  I knew someone who was involved. He told me they used bulldozers to bury about 3,000 people in mass graves on the beach following the invasion. Good for Trump. Those **** are killing almost 80,000 Americans every single year. That is more that the total amount lost in the Viet Nam war.

Fentanyl is made from precursors made in China. No proof there were drugs on the boats or even who  was on them.  It's state sponsored mass murder without evidence. We are accessories to the crime.

6000 Vets are killing themselves every year, and MAGA focuses and holds onto one rejecteed LGBTQ shooter at  a school, ignoring the other shootings.

7 Million protestors. Negligible trouble.

Gaza flaring back up, and now a new war for Mr No War. All to distract from the Epstien Files.

 
 

Punch » 21 Oct 2025, 3:53 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 3:53 am

They said the same thing about Bush Sr. when he invaded Panama and arrested Noriega for EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.  I knew someone who was involved. He told me they used bulldozers to bury about 3,000 people in mass graves on the beach following the invasion. Good for Trump. Those **** are killing almost 80,000 Americans every single year. That is more that the total amount lost in the Viet Nam war.

Punch  it in Punch.. We got Sole's girl on the case now. She sleeps with everybody..


How many drug overdoses in the US per year can be attributed to Venezuela?
It is impossible to state how many drug overdoses in the U.S. can be attributed to Venezuela
. Official data on overdose deaths is not categorized by the country of origin of the drugs involved. 
However, drug enforcement experts and official reports indicate that Venezuela is not a significant source of the drugs primarily responsible for the U.S. overdose epidemic. 
Key facts about drug overdoses and Venezuela's role:

• Leading cause of death: The overwhelming majority of U.S. drug overdose deaths are caused by fentanyl, a synthetic opioid. The U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) confirms that most of this fentanyl is manufactured in Mexico and smuggled across the U.S. land border.
• Venezuela's trafficking role: Venezuela is not a major producer of illicit drugs like fentanyl. Its primary role in the drug trade has been as a transit country for cocaine produced in Colombia.
• Minor transshipment point: While U.S. monitoring data confirms cocaine flows through Venezuela, the amount is a fraction of the cocaine that passes through other countries. For example, in 2018, six times more cocaine passed through Guatemala than Venezuela. Most cocaine destined for the U.S. passes through Mexico.
• Caribbean route for cocaine: A relatively small amount of U.S.-bound cocaine is shipped from Venezuela through the Caribbean islands. This route is not typically used for smuggling synthetic opioids like fentanyl.
• Attribution challenges: Experts state that it is nearly impossible to trace a specific drug overdose death back to its source country. Even when drugs are seized, the supply chain partially replaces the lost product, so confiscations do not equate to a specific number of lives saved. 

 

Punch » 21 Oct 2025, 3:53 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 3:53 am

They said the same thing about Bush Sr. when he invaded Panama and arrested Noriega for EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.  I knew someone who was involved. He told me they used bulldozers to bury about 3,000 people in mass graves on the beach following the invasion. Good for Trump. Those **** are killing almost 80,000 Americans every single year. That is more that the total amount lost in the Viet Nam war.

You really need to fact check your accusation Venezuela kills 80K Americans a year. You should fact check the fishing boat assaults.. oh sorry, there are none other than that two survived one attack and our in our custody. 

War. What  is it good for?  It will distract from the Epstien Files for a few days.

How many drug overdoses a year are attributable to cocaine abuse in the US per year?
According to provisional data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there were an estimated 
30,833 drug overdose deaths involving cocaine in 2023, with that number dropping to 22,174 in 2024. 
However, it is important to note two major complexities in these figures:

• Polysubstance use is the norm: The vast majority of cocaine-involved deaths are not caused by cocaine alone. In 2023, nearly 70% of stimulant-involved overdose deaths also involved a synthetic opioid, most often fentanyl.
• Fentanyl contamination is a driving force: Much of the dramatic increase in cocaine-involved overdose deaths since 2015 has been driven by the illicit manufacturing and distribution of fentanyl and its analogs. A person using cocaine may be unaware that it is contaminated with potent opioids, making the overdose much more likely. For instance, in 2021, nearly 79% of overdose deaths involving cocaine also involved an opioid. 

For these reasons, while cocaine is a factor in tens of thousands of overdose deaths each year, it is not the sole cause for most of them. The co-involvement of other drugs, particularly fentanyl, is a critical element in understanding the mortality risk.

 
 

JohnnyYou » 21 Oct 2025, 5:11 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 5:11 am

Fentanyl is made from precursors made in China. No proof there were drugs on the boats or even who  was on them.  It's state sponsored mass murder without evidence. We are accessories to the crime.

6000 Vets are killing themselves every year, and MAGA focuses and holds onto one rejecteed LGBTQ shooter at  a school, ignoring the other shootings.

7 Million protestors. Negligible trouble.

Gaza flaring back up, and now a new war for Mr No War. All to distract from the Epstien Files.

so, you think the gubment is forthright and tells you everything?


 

Peruvian Pink was the best back in the day..

ROG62 » 21 Oct 2025, 5:29 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 5:29 am

so, you think the gubment is forthright and tells you everything?

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So you are losing faith in Trump?  You finally figured out he has spewed tens of thousands of lies and falsehoods?
 

Punch » 20 Oct 2025, 8:32 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 8:32 pm

We are on the ground.

Nothing in the news...You have a link? Do you know what kind of undertaking this is? It takes months.. :ninja:  

ROG62 » 21 Oct 2025, 5:33 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 5:33 am

Nothing in the news...You have a link? Do you know what kind of undertaking this is? It takes months.. 

What do you think the beach invasion demo in California was for last week?  Training to invade Chicago from Lake Michigan?

I have seen reports we were headed for boots on the ground a week ago.  I have as much as commented about it.

"Pete, I need a diversion from the Epstien Files... Invade Venezuala"

I don't know if you heard. But Generals and Admirals are quitting like an alcoholic forced to drink a keg of beer..

An Admiral has quit over the attack on the boats in VZ and said it was straight up  murder.  

 
 

Great training scenario

Punch » 21 Oct 2025, 3:53 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 3:53 am

They said the same thing about Bush Sr. when he invaded Panama and arrested Noriega for EXACTLY THE SAME REASON.  I knew someone who was involved. He told me they used bulldozers to bury about 3,000 people in mass graves on the beach following the invasion. Good for Trump. Those **** are killing almost 80,000 Americans every single year. That is more that the total amount lost in the Viet Nam war.

I'm curious..

Where do they breed imbeciles like you?
 

The overall death toll: Legal drugs

The primary cause of death from legal drugs is not typically an acute overdose but long-term health complications.

 Tobacco: Kills over 480,000 Americans annually, which is more than AIDS, alcohol, illegal drugs, car accidents, suicides, and murders combined. As the leading cause of preventable death in the U.S., it primarily causes deaths through cancer, heart disease, and chronic respiratory diseases.

 Alcohol: Causes over 88,000 deaths in the U.S. each year. Many of these fatalities are the result of chronic health issues like liver and heart disease, but alcohol can also cause death from acute alcohol poisoning and impaired driving. 
 

Blackvegetable » 21 Oct 2025, 6:39 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 6:39 am

The overall death toll: Legal drugs

The primary cause of death from legal drugs is not typically an acute overdose but long-term health complications.

 Tobacco: Kills over 480,000 Americans annually, which is more than AIDS, alcohol, illegal drugs, car accidents, suicides, and murders combined. As the leading cause of preventable death in the U.S., it primarily causes deaths through cancer, heart disease, and chronic respiratory diseases.

 Alcohol: Causes over 88,000 deaths in the U.S. each year. Many of these fatalities are the result of chronic health issues like liver and heart disease, but alcohol can also cause death from acute alcohol poisoning and impaired driving.

And the baby elephant in the room.. (Gosh.. now there is a childhood memory I can't share due to The Shunning)


In 2023, there were 46,728 gun-related deaths in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). This figure represents the third-highest annual total ever recorded, following the two previous years. 
The deaths are categorized by intent: 

• Suicides: The majority of gun-related deaths are suicides, with 27,300 fatalities in 2023. This was a record high for the third consecutive year.
• Homicides: Gun homicides resulted in 17,927 deaths in 2023.
• Other incidents: A smaller number of deaths were the result of unintentional shootings, defensive gun use, or were not determined. 

Trends in gun deaths

• Homicides down, suicides up: While the number of gun murders saw a significant decrease from a 2021 peak, gun suicides have been on a mostly upward trajectory for the last two decades.
• Leading cause of death for youth: Firearms have been the leading cause of death for young people ages 1–17 for four consecutive years, accounting for more fatalities than car crashes, overdoses, or cancers.
• Disproportionate impact: Research shows significant disparities in who is most affected by gun violence. Black and Hispanic/Latino youth have seen a rapid increase in suicide by firearm since 2014, and Black youth face disproportionately high rates of gun homicides. 

 

We got problems here in the US.. But Argentina and Venezuela come first on the Hocus Pocus don't look at the Epstien Files MAGAcal Mystery Tour..

This really **** sucks. How much corrupt money is Hegseth's rip off getting on this War in Venezuela?  Farmers here could use the bail out. We are wasting valuable dollars, and now possibly American  Blood on a useless military engagement waged under false pretexts.

They are going to run out of money. Unless Trump conitnues to bypass Mike Johnson and keeps Congress's permanent vacation from responsibility going.

 The number of violations against the Constitution grow daily.. exponentially.
 

JohnnyYou » 21 Oct 2025, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 6:44 am

And the baby elephant in the room.. (Gosh.. now there is a childhood memory I can't share due to The Shunning)

In 2023, there were 46,728 gun-related deaths in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). This figure represents the third-highest annual total ever recorded, following the two previous years. 
The deaths are categorized by intent: 

• Suicides: The majority of gun-related deaths are suicides, with 27,300 fatalities in 2023. This was a record high for the third consecutive year.
• Homicides: Gun homicides resulted in 17,927 deaths in 2023.
• Other incidents: A smaller number of deaths were the result of unintentional shootings, defensive gun use, or were not determined. 

Trends in gun deaths

• Homicides down, suicides up: While the number of gun murders saw a significant decrease from a 2021 peak, gun suicides have been on a mostly upward trajectory for the last two decades.
• Leading cause of death for youth: Firearms have been the leading cause of death for young people ages 1–17 for four consecutive years, accounting for more fatalities than car crashes, overdoses, or cancers.
• Disproportionate impact: Research shows significant disparities in who is most affected by gun violence. Black and Hispanic/Latino youth have seen a rapid increase in suicide by firearm since 2014, and Black youth face disproportionately high rates of gun homicides. 

These people are such **** slack jawed imbeciles.

 

JohnnyYou » 21 Oct 2025, 6:47 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 6:47 am

We got problems here in the US.. But Argentina and Venezuela come first on the Hocus Pocus don't look at the Epstien Files MAGAcal Mystery Tour..

This really **** sucks. How much corrupt money is Hegseth's rip off getting on this War in Venezuela?  Farmers here could use the bail out. We are wasting valuable dollars, and now possibly American  Blood on a useless military engagement waged under false pretexts.

They are going to run out of money. Unless Trump conitnues to bypass Mike Johnson and keeps Congress's permanent vacation from responsibility going.

 The number of violations against the Constitution grow daily.. exponentially.

And MAGAts sit around waiting for their $5000 check.


So **** g'ddammned stupid 
 

JohnnyYou » 21 Oct 2025, 5:06 am » wrote: ↑

21 Oct 2025, 5:06 am

And closed damn it..  What a **** up.   One more perversion of diversion from the Epstien Files.

This one could kill American soldiers.

Military is gonna quit.

Epstein files? You mean the ones the Dems sat on for the last 4 years?