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Mrkelly » 07 Nov 2025, 4:02 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Nov 2025, 4:02 pm

Why not go with this and open the government back up ?

Does the right really need to cut off medical coverage without warning?

I know that killing obomba care is their wet dream… does it have to be now?

is the only way to get it done is by holding the countrys well being hostage?

are they not capable of killing the program by its lack of merit?

Are they afraid that their own constituents that are on assistance would put pressure on them to keep it after a year?

Not good optics

I think those "optics" are great!
If YOU want to continue to pay illegals for free healthcare, you're certainly free to do so with YOUR money!
Just keep your greedy liberal paws out of the wallets of the rest of us who understand that giving it away for free to millions of people raises the cost of healthcare for the rest of the country!

Now tell me, genius.  How many more years of providing hundreds of billions of subsidies to prop up Obamacare will it take before you admit what a massive failure it is and always has been, and how dumb you were to support it and been gullible enough to believe Obama's lies about it after EVERY REPUBLICAN TOLD YOU how badly it would fail?

And to answer your stupid question, if Republicans were to cave in, it would result in having them employ the same threat of a government shutdown EVERY TIME THEY OPPOSE A REPUBLICAN BUDGET to get their way.

But liberals like you always see appeasement as your only solution.  And it's obvious that cutting off Obamacare may be the only way to get the far better healthcare plan that Trump has offered!

Trump proposes radical healthcare shake-up that would bypass insurers and hand cash directly to millions of Americans
Daily Mail By ALYSSA GUZMAN, US NEWS REPORTER 8 November 2025 

President Donald Trump has proposed a radical new healthcare plan that would hand money directly to Americans instead of to insurers.The president said he was recommending the proposals for Senate Republicans to consider as the longest government shutdown in history entered day 39 on Saturday. In a post on Truth Social, Trump, 79, said the government should stop sending federal funds to 'money-sucking insurance companies in order to save the bad healthcare provided by Obamacare.' Instead, it should go 'directly to the people so that they can purchase their own, much better healthcare, and have money left over,' he said. 'In other words, take from the BIG, BAD insurance companies, give it to the people, and terminate per dollar spent.' He added that he believes Obamacare is the 'worst healthcare anywhere in the world.'

But we know Democrats would NEVER go along with it because then they wouldn't get their huge kickbacks from the insurance companies who make BILLIONS from including the free abortion coverage in every Obamacare policy!

And killing babies is the number one priority for Democrats, isn't it?

Now, do you WANT the real solution to ending the shutdown?
Because it's quite simple!
Just REQUIRE as the pure filibuster rule demands that any opposition take the podium and actually speak for the 30 hours it would take to run out the clock on cloture.  THAT was the original intent of the filibuster rule!  Let's see a fossil like Bernie Sanders or a babbling buffoon like Schumer stand up WITHOUT ANY BREAKS for the entire time it would take for a genuine filibuster.  And of course, just the threat alone of doing so would force enough Democrats to vote to reopen the government and end their shutdown! 
 

Zeets2 » 08 Nov 2025, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 12:29 pm

I think those "optics" are great!
If YOU want to continue to pay illegals for free healthcare, you're certainly free to do so with YOUR money!
Just keep your greedy liberal paws out of the wallets of the rest of us who understand that giving it away for free to millions of people raises the cost of healthcare for the rest of the country!

Now tell me, genius.  How many more years of providing hundreds of billions of subsidies to prop up Obamacare will it take before you admit what a massive failure it is and always has been, and how dumb you were to support it and been gullible enough to believe Obama's lies about it after EVERY REPUBLICAN TOLD YOU how badly it would fail?

And to answer your stupid question, if Republicans were to cave in, it would result in having them employ the same threat of a government shutdown EVERY TIME THEY OPPOSE A REPUBLICAN BUDGET to get their way.

But liberals like you always see appeasement as your only solution.  And it's obvious that cutting off Obamacare may be the only way to get the far better healthcare plan that Trump has offered!

But we know Democrats would NEVER go along with it because then they wouldn't get their huge kickbacks from the insurance companies who make BILLIONS from including the free abortion coverage in every Obamacare policy!

And killing babies is the number one priority for Democrats, isn't it?

Now, do you WANT the real solution to ending the shutdown?
Because it's quite simple!
Just REQUIRE as the pure filibuster rule demands that any opposition take the podium and actually speak for the 30 hours it would take to run out the clock on cloture.  THAT was the original intent of the filibuster rule!  Let's see a fossil like Bernie Sanders or a babbling buffoon like Schumer stand up WITHOUT ANY BREAKS for the entire time it would take for a genuine filibuster.  And of course, just the threat alone of doing so would force enough Democrats to vote to reopen the government and end their shutdown!

 

Fuelman » 07 Nov 2025, 3:34 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Nov 2025, 3:34 pm

  Talk about a cave in. Went from asking for $1.4 trillion to $35 billion for one year subsidy extension.

**** off Chuck!

I thought it was $1.9 trillion...zillion.

roadkill » 08 Nov 2025, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 1:00 pm

I thought it was $1.9 trillion...zillion.

At this point it probably doesn't really matter, it's all getting added to the government charge card!
 

Fuelman » 08 Nov 2025, 1:02 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 1:02 pm

At this point it probably doesn't really matter, it's all getting added to the government charge card!

Yep...that's what I meant with "zillion".    

Zeets2 » 08 Nov 2025, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 12:29 pm

I think those "optics" are great!
If YOU want to continue to pay illegals for free healthcare, you're certainly free to do so with YOUR money!
Just keep your greedy liberal paws out of the wallets of the rest of us who understand that giving it away for free to millions of people raises the cost of healthcare for the rest of the country!

Now tell me, genius.  How many more years of providing hundreds of billions of subsidies to prop up Obamacare will it take before you admit what a massive failure it is and always has been, and how dumb you were to support it and been gullible enough to believe Obama's lies about it after EVERY REPUBLICAN TOLD YOU how badly it would fail?

And to answer your stupid question, if Republicans were to cave in, it would result in having them employ the same threat of a government shutdown EVERY TIME THEY OPPOSE A REPUBLICAN BUDGET to get their way.

But liberals like you always see appeasement as your only solution.  And it's obvious that cutting off Obamacare may be the only way to get the far better healthcare plan that Trump has offered!

But we know Democrats would NEVER go along with it because then they wouldn't get their huge kickbacks from the insurance companies who make BILLIONS from including the free abortion coverage in every Obamacare policy!

And killing babies is the number one priority for Democrats, isn't it?

Now, do you WANT the real solution to ending the shutdown?
Because it's quite simple!
Just REQUIRE as the pure filibuster rule demands that any opposition take the podium and actually speak for the 30 hours it would take to run out the clock on cloture.  THAT was the original intent of the filibuster rule!  Let's see a fossil like Bernie Sanders or a babbling buffoon like Schumer stand up WITHOUT ANY BREAKS for the entire time it would take for a genuine filibuster.  And of course, just the threat alone of doing so would force enough Democrats to vote to reopen the government and end their shutdown!

and that would start on day one?

this government takes 6 months to change a light bulb.

jerrab » 08 Nov 2025, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 1:08 pm

and that would start on day one?

this government takes 6 months to change a light bulb.

Why did Democrats decide back then when the extra subsidies were authorized to sunset them in the future?


 

Zeets2 » 08 Nov 2025, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 12:29 pm

I think those "optics" are great!
If YOU want to continue to pay illegals for free healthcare, you're certainly free to do so with YOUR money!
Just keep your greedy liberal paws out of the wallets of the rest of us who understand that giving it away for free to millions of people raises the cost of healthcare for the rest of the country!

Now tell me, genius.  How many more years of providing hundreds of billions of subsidies to prop up Obamacare will it take before you admit what a massive failure it is and always has been, and how dumb you were to support it and been gullible enough to believe Obama's lies about it after EVERY REPUBLICAN TOLD YOU how badly it would fail?

And to answer your stupid question, if Republicans were to cave in, it would result in having them employ the same threat of a government shutdown EVERY TIME THEY OPPOSE A REPUBLICAN BUDGET to get their way.

But liberals like you always see appeasement as your only solution.  And it's obvious that cutting off Obamacare may be the only way to get the far better healthcare plan that Trump has offered!

But we know Democrats would NEVER go along with it because then they wouldn't get their huge kickbacks from the insurance companies who make BILLIONS from including the free abortion coverage in every Obamacare policy!

And killing babies is the number one priority for Democrats, isn't it?

Now, do you WANT the real solution to ending the shutdown?
Because it's quite simple!
Just REQUIRE as the pure filibuster rule demands that any opposition take the podium and actually speak for the 30 hours it would take to run out the clock on cloture.  THAT was the original intent of the filibuster rule!  Let's see a fossil like Bernie Sanders or a babbling buffoon like Schumer stand up WITHOUT ANY BREAKS for the entire time it would take for a genuine filibuster.  And of course, just the threat alone of doing so would force enough Democrats to vote to reopen the government and end their shutdown!

rand pauls idea ---------------------------
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Yesterday, U.S. Senator and physician Rand Paul introduced S. 222, the Obamacare Replacement Act, to provide Congress with a health care plan grounded in broadly supported conservative reforms that is ready for an immediate vote after Obamacare is repealed. Dr. Paul’s proposal would expand access to higher-quality, lower-cost health care for more Americans, regardless of medical history.   “Getting government out of the American people’s way and putting them back in charge of their own health care decisions will deliver a strong, efficient system that doesn’t force them to empty out their pockets to cover their medical bills,” said Dr. Paul. “There is no excuse for waiting to craft an alternative until after we repeal Obamacare, and the Obamacare Replacement Act charts a new path forward that will insure the most people possible at the lowest price.”  The Obamacare Replacement Act empowers the American people to: 1.) Choose inexpensive insurance free of government dictates; 2.) Save unlimited amounts in a health savings account (HSA) and have wider options for using those funds; 3.) Buy insurance across state lines; and 4.) Join together in voluntary associations to gain the leverage of being part of a large insurance pool. Dr. Paul has led the charge to replace Obamacare at the same time it is repealed, and he has been joined in calling for simultaneous action by fellow Republicans including President Trump and Speaker of the House Paul Ryan. You can see Dr. Paul’s entire plan laid out section by section HERE, and you can find summary information below. Dr. Rand Paul’s Obamacare Replacement Act, S. 222:

Zeets2 » 08 Nov 2025, 12:29 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 12:29 pm

I think those "optics" are great!
If YOU want to continue to pay illegals for free healthcare, you're certainly free to do so with YOUR money!
Just keep your greedy liberal paws out of the wallets of the rest of us who understand that giving it away for free to millions of people raises the cost of healthcare for the rest of the country!

Now tell me, genius.  How many more years of providing hundreds of billions of subsidies to prop up Obamacare will it take before you admit what a massive failure it is and always has been, and how dumb you were to support it and been gullible enough to believe Obama's lies about it after EVERY REPUBLICAN TOLD YOU how badly it would fail?

And to answer your stupid question, if Republicans were to cave in, it would result in having them employ the same threat of a government shutdown EVERY TIME THEY OPPOSE A REPUBLICAN BUDGET to get their way.

But liberals like you always see appeasement as your only solution.  And it's obvious that cutting off Obamacare may be the only way to get the far better healthcare plan that Trump has offered!

But we know Democrats would NEVER go along with it because then they wouldn't get their huge kickbacks from the insurance companies who make BILLIONS from including the free abortion coverage in every Obamacare policy!

And killing babies is the number one priority for Democrats, isn't it?

Now, do you WANT the real solution to ending the shutdown?
Because it's quite simple!
Just REQUIRE as the pure filibuster rule demands that any opposition take the podium and actually speak for the 30 hours it would take to run out the clock on cloture.  THAT was the original intent of the filibuster rule!  Let's see a fossil like Bernie Sanders or a babbling buffoon like Schumer stand up WITHOUT ANY BREAKS for the entire time it would take for a genuine filibuster.  And of course, just the threat alone of doing so would force enough Democrats to vote to reopen the government and end their shutdown!

cool stories all

alls I asked for was …. Proof that the 2025 shutdown is because “the democrats are fighting to give ILLEGALS obomba care …  in THESE debates that they are having over and over ”

The point is IMO

republicans want kill obomba care … they have since day one

they have controlled all branches of government at the same time .. a few times 

but they didn’t do it

know why?

because enough of their constituents have told them … YOU BETTER NOT 

THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN 

If you have to ramrod your way … to nibble away at said obomba care

you are showing your lack of support from your voters 

If I were the dems … I would request A floor vote with the question being … SHOULD WE ABOLISH OBOMA CARE 

I would love to see that vote 

 
 

Mrkelly » 08 Nov 2025, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 2:06 pm

cool stories all

alls I asked for was …. Proof that the 2025 shutdown is because “the democrats are fighting to give ILLEGALS obomba care …  in THESE debates that they are having over and over ”

The point is IMO

republicans want kill obomba care … they have since day one

they have controlled all branches of government at the same time .. a few times 

but they didn’t do it

know why?

because enough of their constituents have told them … YOU BETTER NOT 

THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN 

If you have to ramrod your way … to nibble away at said obomba care

you are showing your lack of support from your voters 

If I were the dems … I would request A floor vote with the question being … SHOULD WE ABOLISH OBOMA CARE 

I would love to see that vote

Did you EVER stop to think how those "people who have spoken" would vote if the expiration of the subsidies would have ended as Obama originally had promised it would?  Or how much would they have approved of it if Trump hadn't removed the Obamacare mandate as he did in his first term?  

Just let the subsidies expire and see how people react to the TRUE cost they're paying for Obamacare!  They'll drop that failed **** legislation in a heartbeat and agree to the Trump plan to take those funds and buy their own health insurance, which would be MUCH cheaper if we weren't forced to pay for coverages WE DON'T WANT, CAN'T USE, AND NEVER NEEDED!

How many millions of Americans over the age of 50 want or need a policy to pay for abortion?  How many "Right to Lifers" would want that coverage?  How many "all male" businesses like mine was would need coverage for women's health issues like mammograms and free birth control?  How many single woman would want or need coverage for prostate exams, surgeries pr Viagra?
Oh, but not having the ability to FORCE people to pay for stupid **** they don't want would outrage the abortion lobby for Democrats, wouldn't it?  So just like YOU make the claim that Republicans want to kill Obamacare, I could make the same claim for the Democrats who know they must continue to force the entire country to pay for abortions or lose the feminist voters they rely on!

Health insurance should be sold just like car insurance and homeowners insurance is!  You WANT collision coverage?  Here's the cost!  You also want more than the minimum requirements for property damage, liability, or vandalism?  Here's the cost for that too!  Are you forced to buy flood insurance for your home if you live in the desert like men are forced to buy abortion coverage they can never need?  Why are most insurance companies prohibited from selling outside their state, something the government SHOULD NOT interfere with, which would ALSO force insurance companies to face far more competition to keep premium costs low?

There are PLENTY of ways to get the cost of health insurance down if only you blind liberals would stop being such gullible morons to believe in the lies of scumbag politicians who care only about protecting their donors who pay for their campaigns!
You'd think you would have learned something after you were so happy to swallow the lies of corrupt scumbags like Obama when he promised you that you could keep your doctor, keep your healthcare insurance, and save $2500 a year, but apparently, you can't teach a liberal ****!!! 
 

I would not be opposed to short term funding for Obamacare from Trump's Tariffs stash!

   

Zeets2 » 08 Nov 2025, 2:53 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 2:53 pm

Did you EVER stop to think how those "people who have spoken" would vote if the expiration of the subsidies would have ended as Obama originally had promised it would?  Or how much would they have approved of it if Trump hadn't removed the Obamacare mandate as he did in his first term?  

Just let the subsidies expire and see how people react to the TRUE cost they're paying for Obamacare!  They'll drop that failed **** legislation in a heartbeat and agree to the Trump plan to take those funds and buy their own health insurance, which would be MUCH cheaper if we weren't forced to pay for coverages WE DON'T WANT, CAN'T USE, AND NEVER NEEDED!

How many millions of Americans over the age of 50 want or need a policy to pay for abortion?  How many "Right to Lifers" would want that coverage?  How many "all male" businesses like mine was would need coverage for women's health issues like mammograms and free birth control?  How many single woman would want or need coverage for prostate exams, surgeries pr Viagra?
Oh, but not having the ability to FORCE people to pay for stupid **** they don't want would outrage the abortion lobby for Democrats, wouldn't it?  So just like YOU make the claim that Republicans want to kill Obamacare, I could make the same claim for the Democrats who know they must continue to force the entire country to pay for abortions or lose the feminist voters they rely on!

Health insurance should be sold just like car insurance and homeowners insurance is!  You WANT collision coverage?  Here's the cost!  You also want more than the minimum requirements for property damage, liability, or vandalism?  Here's the cost for that too!  Are you forced to buy flood insurance for your home if you live in the desert like men are forced to buy abortion coverage they can never need?  Why are most insurance companies prohibited from selling outside their state, something the government SHOULD NOT interfere with, which would ALSO force insurance companies to face far more competition to keep premium costs low?

There are PLENTY of ways to get the cost of health insurance down if only you blind liberals would stop being such gullible morons to believe in the lies of scumbag politicians who care only about protecting their donors who pay for their campaigns!
You'd think you would have learned something after you were so happy to swallow the lies of corrupt scumbags like Obama when he promised you that you could keep your doctor, keep your healthcare insurance, and save $2500 a year, but apparently, you can't teach a liberal ****!!!

Another cool story

still no answer


 

Mrkelly » 08 Nov 2025, 4:29 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 4:29 pm

Another cool story

still no answer

I'm starting to think you are way too dense to grasp why the Democrats wanted the Medicaid money reinstated.

Read the bolded section slower, it might sink in.

The primary parts of Medicaid affected by cuts and changes in the bill include:

Work Requirements:
The bill imposes new "community engagement" requirements, mandating certain adults (ages 18-64, with some exemptions) to work, volunteer, or attend school for at least 80 hours per month to maintain eligibility for Medicaid expansion coverage. This is the single largest source of projected savings and coverage loss.

Eligibility Redeterminations:
States are required to conduct eligibility checks for Medicaid expansion enrollees every six months, rather than annually, which increases the likelihood of eligible people losing coverage due to paperwork burdens.

Restrictions on State Financing:
The Act limits the ability of states to use provider taxes and state-directed payments to fund their share of Medicaid costs and draw down federal matching funds.

Ending Incentives for Expansion:
The law eliminates the enhanced federal matching funds (FMAP) that were offered to states as an incentive to newly expand their Medicaid programs under the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

Cost-Sharing Requirements:
States are required to impose new out-of-pocket costs (premiums/copays) on expansion enrollees with incomes slightly above the federal poverty level

.Eligibility for Immigrants:
The bill ends federal Medicaid eligibility for certain lawfully present immigrants, such as refugees and asylees, and reduces federal funding for emergency Medicaid for undocumented individuals.

Defunding Certain Providers:
The Act blocks federal Medicaid funding for one year from certain non-profit entities, such as Planned Parenthood, that provide abortions beyond specific exceptions.

Shortened Retroactive Coverage:
The period of retroactive Medicaid coverage (for expenses incurred before the application date) is reduced from three months to one or two months depending on the enrollee category. 
 
 

Fuelman » 08 Nov 2025, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 5:09 pm

I'm starting to think you are way too dense to grasp why the Democrats wanted the Medicaid money reinstated.

Read the bolded section slower, it might sink in.

The primary parts of Medicaid affected by cuts and changes in the bill include:

Work Requirements:
The bill imposes new "community engagement" requirements, mandating certain adults (ages 18-64, with some exemptions) to work, volunteer, or attend school for at least 80 hours per month to maintain eligibility for Medicaid expansion coverage. This is the single largest source of projected savings and coverage loss.

Eligibility Redeterminations:
States are required to conduct eligibility checks for Medicaid expansion enrollees every six months, rather than annually, which increases the likelihood of eligible people losing coverage due to paperwork burdens.

Restrictions on State Financing:
The Act limits the ability of states to use provider taxes and state-directed payments to fund their share of Medicaid costs and draw down federal matching funds.

Ending Incentives for Expansion:
The law eliminates the enhanced federal matching funds (FMAP) that were offered to states as an incentive to newly expand their Medicaid programs under the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

Cost-Sharing Requirements:
States are required to impose new out-of-pocket costs (premiums/copays) on expansion enrollees with incomes slightly above the federal poverty level

.Eligibility for Immigrants:
The bill ends federal Medicaid eligibility for certain lawfully present immigrants, such as refugees and asylees, and reduces federal funding for emergency Medicaid for undocumented individuals.

Defunding Certain Providers:
The Act blocks federal Medicaid funding for one year from certain non-profit entities, such as Planned Parenthood, that provide abortions beyond specific exceptions.

Shortened Retroactive Coverage:
The period of retroactive Medicaid coverage (for expenses incurred before the application date) is reduced from three months to one or two months depending on the enrollee category.

You are too dense to realize that I don’t need an education or another cool story

you replied to me asking for proof of something 

and you wasted a lot of time saying “I got nuthin”

tRump and most rightwing commentators have said that the main fight is because the dems want to give illegals free healthcare with obomba care 

I want to see where this was said OR proposed by the dems 
 

Mrkelly » 08 Nov 2025, 5:53 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 5:53 pm

You are too dense to realize that I don’t need an education or another cool story

you replied to me asking for proof of something 

and you wasted a lot of time saying “I got nuthin”

tRump and most rightwing commentators have said that the main fight is because the dems want to give illegals free healthcare with obomba care 

I want to see where this was said OR proposed by the dems

So, it's your contention the Democrats have no reason to shut down the government, but are doing it for spite?

RebelGator » 08 Nov 2025, 6:12 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 6:12 pm

So, it's your contention the Democrats have no reason to shut down the government, but are doing it for spite?

 

Mrkelly » 08 Nov 2025, 4:29 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 4:29 pm

Another cool story

still no answer

What's the question?
Do you mean to claim that you don't know that the Democrat demand is for $1.5 trillion in new spending to restore the pork that was eliminated in the last budget, including $200 billion to give illegals access to free healthcare through Medicaid once again?
Do you really need proof of that because you haven't been paying attention?
Well, here it is!:

Fact check: Are Democrats fighting for healthcare for illegal immigrants during this government shutdown?
Factually, November 4, 2025

Republicans and some White House communications framed the dispute as Democrats insisting on taxpayer-funded health care for “illegal immigrants,” asserting Democrats’ proposal would restore roughly $200 billion in subsidies and allow undocumented people access to Medicaid and marketplace benefits. 

Washington, D.C. – Democrats are gambling with a shutdown and misleading the public by calling their $1.5 trillion spending spree a “clean” counter proposal. It is nothing more than a dirty, Counterfeit Resolution that crams in partisan policy and extraneous provisions, while pushing the nation closer to crisis and risking FY26 appropriations progress. The American people deserve to know what is in this partisan grab bag.

• Restores taxpayer-funded free healthcare for illegal aliens.
• Props up liberal news programs.
• Prioritizes electric vehicle access to HOV lanes, regardless of vehicle occupancy.
• Removes work requirements for able-bodied, non-working adults on taxpayer-funded health programs.
• Resumes DEI projects in foreign countries.
• Hands criminals over $1 billion more for taxpayer-funded defense.
• Repeals $50 billion in rural health care funding, hurting hospitals and clinics in vulnerable communities.
• Reverses lawful executive actions made by the President.
• Rescinds border security measures passed through the Working Families Tax Cuts.
• Usurps the President’s authority over emergency funds.
• Locks in Biden Administration grant policies in direct contrast to President Trump’s executive orders.
• Handcuffs the Trump Administration’s ability to make agile decisions.
• Burdens Trump Administration officials with added bureaucracy meant to slow down progress.
• Includes $1.5 trillion in new spending for just a month of keeping government funding extended.

Get it through your thick liberal head that Trump WILL NEVER agree to sign on to such ridiculous spending, AND SCHUMER AND HIS PARTY KNOW IT!
 
 

jerrab » 08 Nov 2025, 12:51 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 12:51 pm

 

Speechless?
 

jerrab » 08 Nov 2025, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 1:08 pm

and that would start on day one?

this government takes 6 months to change a light bulb.

 
 

Mrkelly » 08 Nov 2025, 5:53 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Nov 2025, 5:53 pm

You are too dense to realize that I don’t need an education or another cool story

you replied to me asking for proof of something 

and you wasted a lot of time saying “I got nuthin”

tRump and most rightwing commentators have said that the main fight is because the dems want to give illegals free healthcare with obomba care 

I want to see where this was said OR proposed by the dems

**** yer stupid...

they want business as usual...grift to buy votes...