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Uh Oh. SCOTUS Looking at Trump Tariffs
Uh Oh. SCOTUS Looking at Trump Tariffs
By Cannonpointer
10 Nov 2025 7:43 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
10 Nov 2025 7:43 am
Turns out raising taxes without Congress might be an overstep in Presidential authority - some very joey biden-like ****.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1t-fFUz4tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1t-fFUz4tg
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
10 Nov 2025 7:59 am
it'll depend on how it comes across...Cannonpointer » 10 Nov 2025, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑ Turns out raising taxes without Congress might be an overstep in Presidential authority - some very joey biden-like ****.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1t-fFUz4tg
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom 
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
10 Nov 2025 8:02 am
Deep.
Doo Doo.
Americans pay the tax. There isn'tany question. The word salad is for tards - the taxes are for consumers.
The solicitor's cheap and dishonest pretense that Americans can simply choose to buy all of that American coffee that isn't being grown and can never be grown on our soil is purely for consumption by the homosexual community.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
10 Nov 2025 8:06 am
:rofl:
**** idiot.
10 Nov 2025 8:12 am
We all know.
10 Nov 2025 9:53 am
America has been hobbled for decades trying to expand our exports.
Before 1991, India had extremely high tariffs, with rates reaching 123% for intermediate goods, 115% for capital goods, and 129% for consumer goods. This made India a highly protected and closed economy.
Some people like being bent over and dry ****!
Before 1991, India had extremely high tariffs, with rates reaching 123% for intermediate goods, 115% for capital goods, and 129% for consumer goods. This made India a highly protected and closed economy.
Some people like being bent over and dry ****!
10 Nov 2025 10:53 am
It boils down to who makes the better argument...also, there's this...Cannonpointer » 10 Nov 2025, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑ Deep.
Doo Doo.
Americans pay the tax. There isn'tany question. The word salad is for tards - the taxes are for consumers.
The solicitor's cheap and dishonest pretense that Americans can simply choose to buy all of that American coffee that isn't being grown and can never be grown on our soil is purely for consumption by the homosexual community.
Yes, previous presidents have imposed tariffs without congressional approval, often citing national security or economic emergencies as justification. Notably, President Trump used the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to implement tariffs, a practice that has faced legal challenges regarding its constitutionality.Presidential Authority on TariffsHistorical Context
- Constitutional Basis: The U.S. Constitution grants Congress the exclusive power to impose tariffs, as stated in Article I, Section 8. This means that any tariff must originate from legislative action.
- Delegation of Power: Over time, Congress has delegated some tariff authority to the executive branch, particularly during national emergencies. This delegation allows presidents to impose tariffs under specific circumstances without direct congressional approval.
Donald Trump-2018-2025 Tariffs on steel (25%) and aluminum (10%): Used Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act
Joe Biden-2021-2025 Expanded tariffs on various goods: Continued Trump-era tariffs without new legislation
Legal Challenges
- Supreme Court Review: The legality of presidential tariffs has faced scrutiny. The Supreme Court is currently reviewing whether the president can impose tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) without congressional approval.
- Criticism of Overreach: Many argue that presidents have overstepped their authority by using emergency powers to impose tariffs, which traditionally require congressional consent.
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
10 Nov 2025 10:55 am
Do you have verifiable proof 100% of tariff fees are passed on and directly paid for by the end consumer?Cannonpointer » 10 Nov 2025, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑ Deep.
Doo Doo.
Americans pay the tax. There isn'tany question. The word salad is for tards - the taxes are for consumers.
The solicitor's cheap and dishonest pretense that Americans can simply choose to buy all of that American coffee that isn't being grown and can never be grown on our soil is purely for consumption by the homosexual community.
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
10 Nov 2025 10:57 am
wow brown, you're quite the inbred...
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..." 
10 Nov 2025 11:28 am
Tariffs may be effective in the beginning, but in the long term the American taxpayers are the ones that get hit. Consumers pay higher prices -> leads to reduced economic growth and lowers wages --> leads to Export retaliation. It's the oldest pattern in the book when it comes to tariffs. Short term gain. Long term loss.Cannonpointer » 10 Nov 2025, 8:43 am » wrote: ↑ Turns out raising taxes without Congress might be an overstep in Presidential authority - some very joey biden-like ****.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1t-fFUz4tg
History is usually shunned. This is what happens because of the ignorance to it.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
10 Nov 2025 7:49 pm
No.ROG62 » 10 Nov 2025, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑ It boils down to who makes the better argument...also, there's this...
It boils down to how tariffs work. One does not get one's own facts.
ROG62 » 10 Nov 2025, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑ Yes, previous presidents have imposed tariffs without congressional approval, often citing national security or economic emergencies as justification. Notably, President Trump used the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to implement tariffs, a practice that has faced legal challenges regarding its constitutionality.Presidential Authority on TariffsHistorical ContextThe matter is before the SCOTUS - so it's not the settled issue that you present it as.
- Constitutional Basis: The U.S. Constitution grants Congress the exclusive power to impose tariffs, as stated in Article I, Section 8. This means that any tariff must originate from legislative action.
- Delegation of Power: Over time, Congress has delegated some tariff authority to the executive branch, particularly during national emergencies. This delegation allows presidents to impose tariffs under specific circumstances without direct congressional approval.
Yes, trumpis finding out now... We shall see.ROG62 » 10 Nov 2025, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑ Richard Nixon1971-10% tax on foreign goods: Declared a national emergency without Congress
Donald Trump-2018-2025 Tariffs on steel (25%) and aluminum (10%): Used Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act
Joe Biden-2021-2025 Expanded tariffs on various goods: Continued Trump-era tariffs without new legislation
Legal ChallengesPresidents have indeed instituted tariffs without congressional approval, but these actions have often sparked legal debates and challenges regarding their constitutionality.
- Supreme Court Review: The legality of presidential tariffs has faced scrutiny. The Supreme Court is currently reviewing whether the president can impose tariffs under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) without congressional approval.
- Criticism of Overreach: Many argue that presidents have overstepped their authority by using emergency powers to impose tariffs, which traditionally require congressional consent.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
10 Nov 2025 7:53 pm
I do not have to entertain rare, far-fetched, gay homosexual exceptions, as I am not a democrat. If you find one unicorn, you don't get to pretend that is how horses are built.ROG62 » 10 Nov 2025, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑ Do you have verifiable proof 100% of tariff fees are passed on and directly paid for by the end consumer?
I need merely send you to a dictionary. Look up Tariff. See who is being taxed.
If you had ever read the Federalist Papers, you would understand how tariffs work. I would not have to explain, defend, demistify, or heterosexualize your comprehension of tariffs.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
10 Nov 2025 11:11 pm
I know how tariffs work...now show me the proof...Cannonpointer » 10 Nov 2025, 8:53 pm » wrote: ↑ I do not have to entertain rare, far-fetched, gay homosexual exceptions, as I am not a democrat. If you find one unicorn, you don't get to pretend that is how horses are built.
I need merely send you to a dictionary. Look up Tariff. See who is being taxed.
If you had ever read the Federalist Papers, you would understand how tariffs work. I would not have to explain, defend, demistify, or heterosexualize your comprehension of tariffs.
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
11 Nov 2025 1:01 am
If you knew how tariffs worked, that would BE the proof. So you're lying when you say that you know how tariffs work.
You are doing precisely what leftists do. You are making vague reference to some THEORETICAL unicorn situation that couldconceivably exist according to some ***'s talking points and pretending that the iffy existence of some unicorn situation would magically obviate how tariffs work. Tariffs are paid by the purchaser of the tariffed goods. Look it up.
The mere demand for "proof" that never once in the history of tariffs has someone other than the purchaser of the tariffed goods born the cost proves BOTH a democ rat mentality AND iognorance of how tariffs work. That ignorance in turn betrays that you have never read the most basic founding documents - specifically, the Federalist Papers.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
11 Nov 2025 5:28 am
Yes, it does...it always does...Cannonpointer » 10 Nov 2025, 8:49 pm » wrote: ↑ No.
It boils down to how tariffs work. One does not get one's own facts.
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
11 Nov 2025 5:52 am
you're doing the same thing...one tariff gets passed on 100%, therefore ALL tariffs must get passed on by reason of example...Cannonpointer » 11 Nov 2025, 2:01 am » wrote: ↑ If you knew how tariffs worked, that would BE the proof. So you're lying when you say that you know how tariffs work.
You are doing precisely what leftists do. You are making vague reference to some THEORETICAL unicorn situation that couldconceivably exist according to some ***'s talking points and pretending that the iffy existence of some unicorn situation would magically obviate how tariffs work. Tariffs are paid by the purchaser of the tariffed goods. Look it up.
The mere demand for "proof" that never once in the history of tariffs has someone other than the purchaser of the tariffed goods born the cost proves BOTH a democ rat mentality AND iognorance of how tariffs work. That ignorance in turn betrays that you have never read the most basic founding documents - specifically, the Federalist Papers.
I'm not denying that tariffs affect end pricing, it's a given, just not to your levels...
https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/sta ... ust-1-2025
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
11 Nov 2025 7:42 pm
It DOES get its own facts? It ALWAYS doesw?
It's nice to see you come clean.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
11 Nov 2025 7:44 pm
Your link has a list of 8 observations.ROG62 » 11 Nov 2025, 6:52 am » wrote: ↑ you're doing the same thing...one tariff gets passed on 100%, therefore ALL tariffs must get passed on by reason of example...
I'm not denying that tariffs affect end pricing, it's a given, just not to your levels...
https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/sta ... ust-1-2025
Each agree with me. None agrees with you.
Change my mind.
Or your diaper - whichever you feel is more pressing.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
12 Nov 2025 12:26 am
ROG62 » 10 Nov 2025, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑ Do you have verifiable proof 100% of tariff fees are passed on and directly paid for by the end consumer?
how would you say they get paid?
13 Nov 2025 6:58 pm
who?
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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