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Democrats ORGANIZED their ENTIRE Party (except for 3 Senators)... to SHUT DOWN the Government, ending paychecks for millions of people, stopping food programs and support for the poor, and ALL the other ramifications of SHUTTING DOWN the Government... THEN, kept it going for 40 days, UNTIL another EIGHT (8) Senators decided enough was enough (NONE of who are running for RE-Election)... and then the rest of the party CHASTISED them to NO END... for voting to END the 40 day shut down (the LONGEST EVER) !!

WHAT does that TELL YOU?  It tells ME:

1)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted to KEEP the "shut down" going LONGER !

2)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted possibly/probably, to keep the government shut down for as LONG as POSSIBLE/Necessary !

3)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted PROBABLY to KEEP the government shut down until it began to Negatively (and Seriously) affect the U.S. Economy, Military, and Government agencies !

Why would they do something like that unless they wanted to DESTROY the economy, so they could try to BLAME Donald Trump, and somehow USE it to BENEFIT THEMSELVES POLITICALLY, going forward !

ALL THAT tells me that THIS Democrat Party is TERRIFIED of:

4)  Being COMPLETELY EXPOSED and IMPLICATED for being involved in 15 YEARS of Weaponizing the U.S. Government, CORRUPTING the political Infrastructure... The American Intelligence Agencies, the Legal System, the Justice System, and the Military to THEIR benefit, and

5)  Being COMPLETELY EXPOSED and IMPLICATED for being involved in the process of DESTROYING American cities by encouraging and enabling CRIME, Drug Trafficking, and Corruption THRU OUT America...   and SUBVERTING the Rule of LAW in MOST of the major cities in America.. thru Corrupt DA's, Corrupt Judges, WEAK on CRIME laws, and WEAK on Criminal policies... policies... and

6)  THEY KNEW, that if things continued as they were, and Donald Trump continued to be successful in DRAINING the SWAMP and Making America GREAT Again... THAT THEY (the Democrats) would be DESTROYED in the Nation Wide 2026 mid term elections !!

AND they NEED to be !!

ConservativeWave » 17 Nov 2025, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 8:24 am

Democrats ORGANIZED their ENTIRE Party (except for 3 Senators)... to SHUT DOWN the Government, ending paychecks for millions of people, stopping food programs and support for the poor, and ALL the other ramifications of SHUTTING DOWN the Government... THEN, kept it going for 40 days, UNTIL another EIGHT (8) Senators decided enough was enough (NONE of who are running for RE-Election)... and then the rest of the party CHASTISED them to NO END... for voting to END the 40 day shut down (the LONGEST EVER) !!

WHAT does that TELL YOU?  It tells ME:

1)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted to KEEP the "shut down" going LONGER !

2)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted possibly/probably, to keep the government shut down for as LONG as POSSIBLE/Necessary !

3)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted PROBABLY to KEEP the government shut down until it began to Negatively (and Seriously) affect the U.S. Economy, Military, and Government agencies !

Why would they do something like that unless they wanted to DESTROY the economy, so they could try to BLAME Donald Trump, and somehow USE it to BENEFIT THEMSELVES POLITICALLY, going forward !

ALL THAT tells me that THIS Democrat Party is TERRIFIED of:

4)  Being COMPLETELY EXPOSED and IMPLICATED for being involved in 15 YEARS of Weaponizing the U.S. Government, CORRUPTING the political Infrastructure... The American Intelligence Agencies, the Legal System, the Justice System, and the Military to THEIR benefit, and

5)  Being COMPLETELY EXPOSED and IMPLICATED for being involved in the process of DESTROYING American cities by encouraging and enabling CRIME, Drug Trafficking, and Corruption THRU OUT America...   and SUBVERTING the Rule of LAW in MOST of the major cities in America.. thru Corrupt DA's, Corrupt Judges, WEAK on CRIME laws, and WEAK on Criminal policies... policies... and

6)  THEY KNEW, that if things continued as they were, and Donald Trump continued to be successful in DRAINING the SWAMP and Making America GREAT Again... THAT THEY (the Democrats) would be DESTROYED in the Nation Wide 2026 mid term elections !!

AND they NEED to be !!

The most significant historical shutdown occurred when Trump was President in 2025.

Retrospective voting. If you are not familiar with the term, do your own research.
 
 

Roshambo » 17 Nov 2025, 8:30 am » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 8:30 am

The most significant historical shutdown occurred when Trump was President in 2025.

Retrospective voting. If you are not familiar with the term, do your own research.

Personally, a Democrat Party attempt to SABOTAGE the Economy (by shutting down the government for WHO KNOWS how long they had in mind), to then BLAME it on the sitting President (Trump), BECAUSE they had NOTHING ELSE, and NEEDED SOMETHING to get TRUMP OUT of office, before he FINISHED DRAINING the SWAMP, DE-Militarizing the government, AND prosecuting ALL the corrupt Bureaucrats who TRIED to GET TRUMP OUT of the 2024 election using LAW-FARE... 

AND NOW, because he was elected in 2024 with a MASSIVE win... it MIGHT be their LAST CHANCE to do ANYTHING !!

I THINK a JUDGE could call that TREASON... but, one way or another, I think the American People WILL call it TREASON !!

ConservativeWave » 17 Nov 2025, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 2:21 pm

Personally, a Democrat Party attempt to SABOTAGE the Economy (by shutting down the government for WHO KNOWS how long they had in mind), to then BLAME it on the sitting President (Trump), BECAUSE they had NOTHING ELSE, and NEEDED SOMETHING to get TRUMP OUT of office, before he FINISHED DRAINING the SWAMP, DE-Militarizing the government, AND prosecuting ALL the corrupt Bureaucrats who TRIED to GET TRUMP OUT of the 2024 election using LAW-FARE... 

AND NOW, because he was elected in 2024 with a MASSIVE win... it MIGHT be their LAST CHANCE to do ANYTHING !!

I THINK a JUDGE could call that TREASON... but, one way or another, I think the American People WILL call it TREASON !!

I think you are one of the dumbest Rubes on this platform and I truly believe you are abusing bath salts.

The most significant historical shutdown occurred when Trump was President in 2025.

Retrospective voting. If you are not familiar with the term, do your own research.
 

Roshambo » 17 Nov 2025, 2:39 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 2:39 pm

I think you are one of the dumbest Rubes on this platform and I truly believe you are abusing bath salts.

The most significant historical shutdown occurred when Trump was President in 2025.

Retrospective voting. If you are not familiar with the term, do your own research.

moshem, you expecting him to run again?

ROG62 » 17 Nov 2025, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 2:52 pm

moshem, you expecting him to run again?

I am unable to read your thoughts, JuCo. Could you please be more specific with your question?

ConservativeWave » 17 Nov 2025, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 2:21 pm

Personally, a Democrat Party attempt to SABOTAGE the Economy (by shutting down the government for WHO KNOWS how long they had in mind), to then BLAME it on the sitting President (Trump), BECAUSE they had NOTHING ELSE, and NEEDED SOMETHING to get TRUMP OUT of office, before he FINISHED DRAINING the SWAMP, DE-Militarizing the government, AND prosecuting ALL the corrupt Bureaucrats who TRIED to GET TRUMP OUT of the 2024 election using LAW-FARE... 

AND NOW, because he was elected in 2024 with a MASSIVE win... it MIGHT be their LAST CHANCE to do ANYTHING !!

I THINK a JUDGE could call that TREASON... but, one way or another, I think the American People WILL call it TREASON !!

 

Your present day Democrat is treasonous, furthermore, has demonstrated that they are un-fit to lead.
 

ConservativeWave » 17 Nov 2025, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 2:21 pm

Personally, a Democrat Party attempt to SABOTAGE the Economy (by shutting down the government for WHO KNOWS how long they had in mind), to then BLAME it on the sitting President (Trump), BECAUSE they had NOTHING ELSE, and NEEDED SOMETHING to get TRUMP OUT of office, before he FINISHED DRAINING the SWAMP, DE-Militarizing the government, AND prosecuting ALL the corrupt Bureaucrats who TRIED to GET TRUMP OUT of the 2024 election using LAW-FARE... 

AND NOW, because he was elected in 2024 with a MASSIVE win... it MIGHT be their LAST CHANCE to do ANYTHING !!

I THINK a JUDGE could call that TREASON... but, one way or another, I think the American People WILL call it TREASON !!

trump stopped the food program.

jerrab » 17 Nov 2025, 3:49 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 3:49 pm

trump stopped the food program.

Trump floated the idea of a 50 year mortgage        
 

ConservativeWave » 17 Nov 2025, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 2:21 pm

Personally, a Democrat Party attempt to SABOTAGE the Economy (by shutting down the government for WHO KNOWS how long they had in mind), to then BLAME it on the sitting President (Trump), BECAUSE they had NOTHING ELSE, and NEEDED SOMETHING to get TRUMP OUT of office, before he FINISHED DRAINING the SWAMP, DE-Militarizing the government, AND prosecuting ALL the corrupt Bureaucrats who TRIED to GET TRUMP OUT of the 2024 election using LAW-FARE... 

AND NOW, because he was elected in 2024 with a MASSIVE win... it MIGHT be their LAST CHANCE to do ANYTHING !!

I THINK a JUDGE could call that TREASON... but, one way or another, I think the American People WILL call it TREASON !!

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The loss of SNAP “was really stark during the shutdown,” said Dottie Rosenbaum, director of federal SNAP policy at the left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. “But [the One Big Beautiful Bill Act] is the largest cut in the program’s history. That is also going to be really deeply felt.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/1 ... t-00653447
 

ConservativeWave » 17 Nov 2025, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 8:24 am

Democrats ORGANIZED their ENTIRE Party (except for 3 Senators)... to SHUT DOWN the Government, ending paychecks for millions of people, stopping food programs and support for the poor, and ALL the other ramifications of SHUTTING DOWN the Government... THEN, kept it going for 40 days, UNTIL another EIGHT (8) Senators decided enough was enough (NONE of who are running for RE-Election)... and then the rest of the party CHASTISED them to NO END... for voting to END the 40 day shut down (the LONGEST EVER) !!

WHAT does that TELL YOU?  It tells ME:

1)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted to KEEP the "shut down" going LONGER !

2)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted possibly/probably, to keep the government shut down for as LONG as POSSIBLE/Necessary !

3)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted PROBABLY to KEEP the government shut down until it began to Negatively (and Seriously) affect the U.S. Economy, Military, and Government agencies !

Why would they do something like that unless they wanted to DESTROY the economy, so they could try to BLAME Donald Trump, and somehow USE it to BENEFIT THEMSELVES POLITICALLY, going forward !

ALL THAT tells me that THIS Democrat Party is TERRIFIED of:

4)  Being COMPLETELY EXPOSED and IMPLICATED for being involved in 15 YEARS of Weaponizing the U.S. Government, CORRUPTING the political Infrastructure... The American Intelligence Agencies, the Legal System, the Justice System, and the Military to THEIR benefit, and

5)  Being COMPLETELY EXPOSED and IMPLICATED for being involved in the process of DESTROYING American cities by encouraging and enabling CRIME, Drug Trafficking, and Corruption THRU OUT America...   and SUBVERTING the Rule of LAW in MOST of the major cities in America.. thru Corrupt DA's, Corrupt Judges, WEAK on CRIME laws, and WEAK on Criminal policies... policies... and

6)  THEY KNEW, that if things continued as they were, and Donald Trump continued to be successful in DRAINING the SWAMP and Making America GREAT Again... THAT THEY (the Democrats) would be DESTROYED in the Nation Wide 2026 mid term elections !!

AND they NEED to be !!

trump only cares about israel and that does not include gaza

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Israel can rest easy: The spending cuts axe being wielded by US President Donald Trump has so far spared military aid to Israel. Israel is due to receive $3.3 billion under the 2020 budget proposal that the White House sent to Congress yesterday.The aid to Israel is set out in a memorandum of understanding signed by President Obama in his last year in office.The relevant clause in the section “Department of State and Other International Programs” of the budget document states: “The Budget fully supports the U.S.-Israel Memorandum of Understanding and includes $3.3 billion in Foreign Military Financing grant assistance to bolster Israel’s capacity to defend itself against threats in the region and maintain its qualitative military edge.”​​​​​​​

ConservativeWave » 17 Nov 2025, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 8:24 am

Democrats ORGANIZED their ENTIRE Party (except for 3 Senators)... to SHUT DOWN the Government, ending paychecks for millions of people, stopping food programs and support for the poor, and ALL the other ramifications of SHUTTING DOWN the Government... THEN, kept it going for 40 days, UNTIL another EIGHT (8) Senators decided enough was enough (NONE of who are running for RE-Election)... and then the rest of the party CHASTISED them to NO END... for voting to END the 40 day shut down (the LONGEST EVER) !!

WHAT does that TELL YOU?  It tells ME:

1)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted to KEEP the "shut down" going LONGER !

2)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted possibly/probably, to keep the government shut down for as LONG as POSSIBLE/Necessary !

3)  The VAST majority of the Democrat Party wanted PROBABLY to KEEP the government shut down until it began to Negatively (and Seriously) affect the U.S. Economy, Military, and Government agencies !

Why would they do something like that unless they wanted to DESTROY the economy, so they could try to BLAME Donald Trump, and somehow USE it to BENEFIT THEMSELVES POLITICALLY, going forward !

ALL THAT tells me that THIS Democrat Party is TERRIFIED of:

4)  Being COMPLETELY EXPOSED and IMPLICATED for being involved in 15 YEARS of Weaponizing the U.S. Government, CORRUPTING the political Infrastructure... The American Intelligence Agencies, the Legal System, the Justice System, and the Military to THEIR benefit, and

5)  Being COMPLETELY EXPOSED and IMPLICATED for being involved in the process of DESTROYING American cities by encouraging and enabling CRIME, Drug Trafficking, and Corruption THRU OUT America...   and SUBVERTING the Rule of LAW in MOST of the major cities in America.. thru Corrupt DA's, Corrupt Judges, WEAK on CRIME laws, and WEAK on Criminal policies... policies... and

6)  THEY KNEW, that if things continued as they were, and Donald Trump continued to be successful in DRAINING the SWAMP and Making America GREAT Again... THAT THEY (the Democrats) would be DESTROYED in the Nation Wide 2026 mid term elections !!

AND they NEED to be !!

"Never was so much owed to so many by so few for leverage"

Roshambo » 17 Nov 2025, 3:33 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 3:33 pm

I am unable to read your thoughts, JuCo. Could you please be more specific with your question?

for prez...

jerrab » 17 Nov 2025, 3:49 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Nov 2025, 3:49 pm

trump stopped the food program.

I would too, permanently.