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"Free market capitalism" is so successful we need bailouts every 5-10 years...      

FYI if you don't have dementia and aren't retarded, you know the last major bailout was back in 2023 with Silicon Valley Bank (which happened to include many DEMOCRAP Party donors whose FDIC insured accounts contained more than the $250K threshold), and prior to that event Boeing got a massive bailout during Covid (2020) after its stock price dropped from almost 450 all the way down to 90~.


So do Coreweave, Oracle, and Scam Altman need a bailout next???

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LowIQTrash » 26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am

"Free market capitalism" is so successful we need bailouts every 5-10 years...      

FYI if you don't have dementia and aren't retarded, you know the last major bailout was back in 2023 with Silicon Valley Bank (which happened to include many DEMOCRAP Party donors whose FDIC insured accounts contained more than the $250K threshold), and prior to that event Boeing got a massive bailout during Covid (2020) after its stock price dropped from almost 450 all the way down to 90~.

So do Coreweave, Oracle, and Scam Altman need a bailout next???

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So do you think Obama should have let the "too big to fail" crash in 2008? 

It seems to me we are just postponeing the inevitable.

I realy don'y understand the term "shorts" very well, but America's dick looks like it will be in the nanometer range by this time next year.

The AI Bubble is a big one..    We received training on which AI we could use at work..   They asked "Is it Ok to put company data in GROK?" on the quiz.   In  rating the training I commented on survey there should have been a "Oh Hell No!" response offerred.

I will likely pay for AI if I have to.   Altman seems like a pretty sharp guy. I certainly don't have a great grasp of the underlying details in the business to make financial choices.



 

JohnnyYou » 26 Nov 2025, 2:06 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:06 am

So do you think Obama should have let the "too big to fail" crash in 2008? 

It seems to me we are just postponeing the inevitable.

I realy don'y understand the term "shorts" very well, but America's dick looks like it will be in the nanometer range by this time next year.

The AI Bubble is a big one..    We received training on which AI we could use at work..   They asked "Is it Ok to put company data in GROK?" on the quiz.   In  rating the training I commented on survey there should have been a "Oh Hell No!" response offerred.

I will likely pay for AI if I have to.   Altman seems like a pretty sharp guy. I certainly don't have a great grasp of the underlying details in the business to make financial choices.

I would have been OK with "bailouts" if they actually redistributed the wealth to people in need, which didn't happen. The Wall St execs just pocketed the money and paid themselves bonuses.

"Obama" has no say in the matter, as our presidents are always (s)elected.

Then on the other side of the equation we have "Austrians" who want the market to cleanse itself...which is usually very painful but clears the way for other enterprises to take over / start fresh. And this also allows short sellers / people who love shorting Ponzi schemes (like myself) to profit    

Instead we got the worst of both worlds - a bailout and more handouts to the wealthy parasites.
 

LowIQTrash » 26 Nov 2025, 2:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:15 am

I would have been OK with "bailouts" if they actually redistributed the wealth to people in need, which didn't happen. The Wall St execs just pocketed the money and paid themselves bonuses.

"Obama" has no say in the matter, as our presidents are always (s)elected.

Then on the other side of the equation we have "Austrians" who want the market to cleanse itself...which is usually very painful but clears the way for other enterprises to take over / start fresh. And this also allows short sellers / people who love shorting Ponzi schemes (like myself) to profit    

Instead we got the worst of both worlds - a bailout and more handouts to the wealthy parasites.

I will never forget Nancy Pelosi saying during COVID..  "It's ok to bailout Wall Street"..

Aye, we do have a wealth distribution planet on Earth..  Maybe someday we will get the greed out of our blood, but humanity has had a wealth distribution problem probably since the Ape beat the shyt out another poor sap on 2001 A Space Odyssey with a bone.

96: of all mammalian bio mass is human or livestock on the planet.  If ET likes well done steak with ketchup, we are on the galactic menu. The meat locker is full to the brim.  We would probably have better outcomes if we call became Soylent Green.

 
 

LowIQTrash » 26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am

"Free market capitalism" is so successful we need bailouts every 5-10 years...      

FYI if you don't have dementia and aren't retarded, you know the last major bailout was back in 2023 with Silicon Valley Bank (which happened to include many DEMOCRAP Party donors whose FDIC insured accounts contained more than the $250K threshold), and prior to that event Boeing got a massive bailout during Covid (2020) after its stock price dropped from almost 450 all the way down to 90~.

So do Coreweave, Oracle, and Scam Altman need a bailout next???

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I have to disagree with you, sir. Capitalismworks just fine. 

Look at all the homeless people in America. Capitalism is the bestest, most blessed by God, most Jesusy system ever invented. 
 

LowIQTrash » 26 Nov 2025, 2:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:15 am

I would have been OK with "bailouts" if they actually redistributed the wealth to people in need, which didn't happen. 

What POSSIBLE need could homeless people have for money? Just give em a soup line and some clean hypos. 
 

JohnnyYou » 26 Nov 2025, 2:06 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:06 am

So do you think Obama should have let the "too big to fail" crash in 2008? 

Obama had no other option in 2008. It wasn'this decision to make.

JohnnyYou » 26 Nov 2025, 2:06 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:06 am

I realy don'y understand the term "shorts" very well,

Shorts is where the conjobs on the board live. Jew shorts.

Cannonpointer » 26 Nov 2025, 2:41 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:41 am

Obama had no other option in 2008. It wasn'this decision to make.

Shorts is where the conjobs on the board live. Jew shorts.

Are you jerking off to Thomas Crook's social media posts?

Ghutto Blastoff must be in orgasmic ecstacy.
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 26 Nov 2025, 2:36 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:36 am

I have to disagree with you, sir. Capitalismworks just fine. 

Look at all the homeless people in America. Capitalism is the bestest, most blessed by God, most Jesusy system ever invented.

The conjobs will say it's the Soshalizt, Marxist Democrats responsible for homelessness 

LowIQTrash » 26 Nov 2025, 3:25 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 3:25 am

The conjobs will say it's the Soshalizt, Marxist Democrats responsible for homelessness

I saw we are diverting $3.9 Billion of housing aid to internment camps of no hope for the Amy Wine O's  rehab operation.  Another fine Gnome/Blondi shift of money to help people into corrupt contractors pockets. I heard up to 170K people who have up to 8 years of paid occupancy could be crawling the streets. What a genius way to slow down crime.

Cannonpointer » 26 Nov 2025, 2:36 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:36 am

I have to disagree with you, sir. Capitalismworks just fine. 

Look at all the homeless people in America. Capitalism is the bestest, most blessed by God, most Jesusy system ever invented.

Something to consider:

groundbreaking study by Just Facts has discovered that – after accounting for all income, charity, and non-cash welfare benefits like subsidized housing and food stamps – the poorest 20 percent of Americans consume more goods and services than the national averages for all people in most affluent countries. This includes the majority of countries in the prestigious Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), including its European members

America’s poorest are richer than most average Europeans: Study | Acton Institute https://share.google/qdosxGkiaWpxe6nvB

 

LowIQTrash » 26 Nov 2025, 2:15 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:15 am

I would have been OK with "bailouts" if they actually redistributed the wealth to people in need, which didn't happen. The Wall St execs just pocketed the money and paid themselves bonuses.


 

People in need have nothing to offer....a simple fact you and your kind can't grasp.

Fuelman » 26 Nov 2025, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 9:53 am

Something to consider:

groundbreaking study by Just Facts has discovered that – after accounting for all income, charity, and non-cash welfare benefits like subsidized housing and food stamps – the poorest 20 percent of Americans consume more goods and services than the national averages for all people in most affluent countries. This includes the majority of countries in the prestigious Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), including its European members

America’s poorest are richer than most average Europeans: Study | Acton Institute https://share.google/qdosxGkiaWpxe6nvB

China with its "state sponsored" enterprise system seems to be beating the snot out of US AI companies. DeepSeek and Qwen deliver results on par with US LLMs while hogging far less computing resources. They don't need to waste 100 billion every year on Nvidia chips

It's almost like having a bunch of Tiny Hats (Scam Altman, Larry Ellison) try to grift and steal taxpayer money (and then quietly demand a govt bailout) like a child breaking a parent's safelock combo isn't great for either innovation or a nation's prosperity.

(And before you even think of challenging this excerpt with mentions of stock prices...my response is Ponzi bubbles return a lot of money when they are making final gasps)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

JohnnyYou » 26 Nov 2025, 2:53 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 2:53 am

Are you jerking off to Thomas Crook's social media posts?

Ghutto Blastoff must be in orgasmic ecstacy.

DK the guy. won't google it.

I assume he speaks truth since you disparage himby implication.
 

LowIQTrash » 26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am

"Free market capitalism" is so successful we need bailouts every 5-10 years...      

FYI if you don't have dementia and aren't retarded, you know the last major bailout was back in 2023 with Silicon Valley Bank (which happened to include many DEMOCRAP Party donors whose FDIC insured accounts contained more than the $250K threshold), and prior to that event Boeing got a massive bailout during Covid (2020) after its stock price dropped from almost 450 all the way down to 90~.


So do Coreweave, Oracle, and Scam Altman need a bailout next???

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Every human reality is based off one philosophy that hasn't changed historically since dawn of civilization was built within this species change ancestrally continued every generation into current events.

What if living personally here isn't eternally separated by each beating heart and brain adapting in plain sight daily here now? How do people disprove now is eternity? Relative time theory and economical theories doesn't change between academics, arts, economies, political minds, spiritual souls, social consensus of which side is exempt from natural time living so far chosen by a higher plain of life people believe there is supernatural intelligence beyond the total sum universal balancing happening now evolution doesn't examine self evident time each universal position gets each cycle of life lived to this rotation forward.

Nobody in 19 years is willing to discuss how humanity dissected eternal separation of being alive now into segments of space time continuum being everything else possible than simple adapting to space since arrived a specific set of chromosomes in streaming DNA results inhabiting space as the current population left alive so far.

I explain the natural evolving process patterns by species, ancestral lineage, generation gaps alive accounting for any type of ancestral position daily here and in return for my honesty I get ridiculed, shunned, exiled from typecast social order by stereotypical people debating life by artificial facts suggesting nobody knows why they exist uniquely alive by heart beats and personal brain inhabiting space now as naturally positioned in generation gaps separating 8.2 billion humans occupying space here in this specific universal location, now.

You defend who you rather be than all you were since a fertilized cell started adapting proportionately alive so far. I stopped denying all I was since conceived into a specific generation gap, ancestral lineage within homo sapiens' DNA streaming current population living one heartbeat at a time combined and compounded into everything I become living here now.

I know why I became absolutely corrupted so I changed my mind and navigate space with my brain.

LowIQTrash » 26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am

"Free market capitalism" is so successful we need bailouts every 5-10 years...      

FYI if you don't have dementia and aren't retarded, you know the last major bailout was back in 2023 with Silicon Valley Bank (which happened to include many DEMOCRAP Party donors whose FDIC insured accounts contained more than the $250K threshold), and prior to that event Boeing got a massive bailout during Covid (2020) after its stock price dropped from almost 450 all the way down to 90~.

So do Coreweave, Oracle, and Scam Altman need a bailout next???

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Most people have negative thoughts thinking about bail outs. Most don't realize they are getting a taxpayer bailout every time they fill up the car or truck with gasoline.

Despite claims of free-market competition, the U.S. fossil fuel industry benefits from an estimated $760 billion annually through subsidies, tax breaks, and unpriced externalities, with direct government subsidies alone accounting for $10 to $52 billion per year. These policies distort energy markets, hinder renewable energy growth, and cost taxpayers billions

Fossil Fuel Subsidies: The $760 Billion Lie About 'Free Market' Energy | FracTracker Alliance https://share.google/0bY4mCy41GxxjcJhX

It's been estimated that fuel would cost $15/ gallon if this were a true free market and the fossil fuel industry took care of all costs associated with the use of fossil fuels.

Careful what you wish for.
 

LowIQTrash » 26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 1:45 am

"Free market capitalism" is so successful we need bailouts every 5-10 years...      

FYI if you don't have dementia and aren't retarded, you know the last major bailout was back in 2023 with Silicon Valley Bank (which happened to include many DEMOCRAP Party donors whose FDIC insured accounts contained more than the $250K threshold), and prior to that event Boeing got a massive bailout during Covid (2020) after its stock price dropped from almost 450 all the way down to 90~.

So do Coreweave, Oracle, and Scam Altman need a bailout next???

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For starters in Todays $$$ the FDIC Insurance set rather low but prices and Inflation comes first..

IF ya actually got some $$$ split it up into separate banks less than 250k and your accounts be fully "FDIC" covered and in "Todays Dollars" they can make that Half A Million but dont expect Congress 2 Act on that they live inside their own little bubble and better make Trump and "MAGA" proud or be called out and "Primary" Challengers "Funded" by seceret donor class
 

Fuelman » 27 Nov 2025, 8:31 am » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2025, 8:31 am

Most people have negative thoughts thinking about bail outs. Most don't realize they are getting a taxpayer bailout every time they fill up the car or truck with gasoline.

Despite claims of free-market competition, the U.S. fossil fuel industry benefits from an estimated $760 billion annually through subsidies, tax breaks, and unpriced externalities, with direct government subsidies alone accounting for $10 to $52 billion per year. These policies distort energy markets, hinder renewable energy growth, and cost taxpayers billions

Fossil Fuel Subsidies: The $760 Billion Lie About 'Free Market' Energy | FracTracker Alliance https://share.google/0bY4mCy41GxxjcJhX

It's been estimated that fuel would cost $15/ gallon if this were a true free market and the fossil fuel industry took care of all costs associated with the use of fossil fuels.

Careful what you wish for.
 

All hypothetical truths can be manifested into factual outcomes .

Fuelman » 26 Nov 2025, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

26 Nov 2025, 9:53 am

Something to consider:

groundbreaking study by Just Facts has discovered that – after accounting for all income, charity, and non-cash welfare benefits like subsidized housing and food stamps – the poorest 20 percent of Americans consume more goods and services than the national averages for all people in most affluent countries. This includes the majority of countries in the prestigious Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), including its European members

America’s poorest are richer than most average Europeans: Study | Acton Institute https://share.google/qdosxGkiaWpxe6nvB

You MUST, at some level, understand that you have the skepticism of a small female child - yes?

Just sit with it, please, before you respond. 

Here, let me help you see the various obvious errors you make in that post. I won't go into the ones that might require any googling. 

The first error is to respond to a post about homelessness in Murka with an observation that AT BEST subsumes the homeless into a much larger group, and at worst simply does not account for them at all. We cannot know which without some googling, but it is one or the other. 

The second is to make a weak defense of capitalism by comparing it to capitalism. That is just retarded, if you are honest about it. 

The third is to pretend that "goods and services" is an honest measure, when on one side the "fortunate" are forced to purchase and maintain personal automobiles, and on the other side, the "less fortunate" have easy access to public transport at a very cheap cost. We do not have any idea without a deep dive whether that public transport is counted as a "good or service," and what value is assigned to it. 


 

Cannonpointer » 27 Nov 2025, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

27 Nov 2025, 11:26 am

You MUST, at some level, understand that you have the skepticism of a small female child - yes?

Just sit with it, please, before you respond. 

Here, let me help you see the various obvious errors you make in that post. I won't go into the ones that might require any googling. 

The first error is to respond to a post about homelessness in Murka with an observation that AT BEST subsumes the homeless into a much larger group, and at worst simply does not account for them at all. We cannot know which without some googling, but it is one or the other. 

The second is to make a weak defense of capitalism by comparing it to capitalism. That is just retarded, if you are honest about it. 

The third is to pretend that "goods and services" is an honest measure, when on one side the "fortunate" are forced to purchase and maintain personal automobiles, and on the other side, the "less fortunate" have easy access to public transport at a very cheap cost. We do not have any idea without a deep dive whether that public transport is counted as a "good or service," and what value is assigned to it.

  I know getting you to consider information outside your bubble is a lost cause but I'm always willing to try.

Read the article and get a little smarter. You can take up the errors in the study with these guys:

Notably, this study was reviewed by Dr. Henrique Schneider, professor of economics at Nordakademie University in Germany and the chief economist of the Swiss Federation of Small and Medium-Sized Enterprises. After examining the source data and Just Facts’ methodology, he concluded: “This study is sound and conforms with academic standards. I personally think it provides valuable insight into poverty measures and adds considerably to this field of research.”