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Trump wants to give the money used for ACA funding DIRECTLY to the PEOPLE... who HE feels can use the money MORE EFFICIENTLY by directing the money to WHICH companies they WANT to, for the purposes THEY SEE FIT... So, NOW DEMOCRATS are going BAT-**** CRAZY, and trying to KEEP the subsidies going "DIRECTLY to the Healthcare companies"... DID you ever wonder WHY?

Some of the "Top Providers" of Obamacare are: United Healthcare, Kaiser Permanente, Cigna, Blue Cross Blue Shield, Molina Healthcare, and Health Sherpa... WELL, when you look a little CLOSER agt them over the last 15 years,,, something AMAZING  comes OUT !!

United Healthcare (UNH) - $35/share (2010) ... $325/share today ( 928% appreciation )
Kaiser Permanente - ...Not Publicly Traded
Cigna - $33/share (2010) ... $271/share today (636% appreciation )
Blue Cross Blue Shield ...Not Publicly Traded
Molina Healthcare - $15/share (2010) ...$162/share today
Health Sherpa ...Not Publicly Traded (1006% appreciation )

SO, MOST (if not all) of the healthcare providers who are PART of Obamacare... have shown (on average) a $857% appreciation since Obamacare took effect (that's almost a 60%/year INCREASE in value)... while American citizens have ALREADY paid a number of times to "BAIL OUT" andf "SHORE UP" the FAILING ACA (black hole) FARCE... and NOW, will have to pay AGAIN in January 2026 unless Donald Trump is successful in MODIFYING the ACA, and GIVING the money DIRECTLY to the PEOPLE !!   THIS is what Barack Obama gave us... a BLACK HOLE orchestrated to make democrats RICH... and NOT WHAT HE SAID at the time... WOULD be "Cheaper, Better, and MORE Efficient"... it has been NONE of THAT...

THESE Healthcare companies, and CERTAINLY INCLUDING the ones that are NOT publicly traded, are MAKING CRAZY PROFITS BECAUSE of the ACA connection... AND, who UNDOUBTEDLY have been PAYING OFF their political debts, with HUGE donations to Marxist Socialist Democrats... BUT ALSO, the Political insiders (UNDOUBTEDLY ALL DEMOCRATS) who INVESTED in these companies when NO ONE ELSE KNEW what they had done... have ALREADY made BILLIONS of $$$ ...AND who are STILL FIGHTING to continue this ABOMINATION !

EVER WONDER how Diane Fienstien made all of her MONEY ??  Well... WONDER NO MORE !!
 

Bring back old style health insurance the way it was before the government dove in to "HELP!"

750 deductible with 80/20 to 5000...1500 total out of pocket

and it was affordable....very affordable

ConservativeWave » 18 Dec 2025, 5:17 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2025, 5:17 pm

Trump wants to give the money used for ACA funding DIRECTLY to the PEOPLE... who HE feels can use the money MORE EFFICIENTLY by directing the money to WHICH companies they WANT to, for the purposes THEY SEE FIT... So, NOW DEMOCRATS are going BAT-**** CRAZY, and trying to KEEP the subsidies going "DIRECTLY to the Healthcare companies"... DID you ever wonder WHY?

Some of the "Top Providers" of Obamacare are: United Healthcare, Kaiser Permanente, Cigna, Blue Cross Blue Shield, Molina Healthcare, and Health Sherpa... WELL, when you look a little CLOSER agt them over the last 15 years,,, something AMAZING  comes OUT !!

United Healthcare (UNH) - $35/share (2010) ... $325/share today ( 928% appreciation )
Kaiser Permanente - ...Not Publicly Traded
Cigna - $33/share (2010) ... $271/share today (636% appreciation )
Blue Cross Blue Shield ...Not Publicly Traded
Molina Healthcare - $15/share (2010) ...$162/share today
Health Sherpa ...Not Publicly Traded (1006% appreciation )

SO, MOST (if not all) of the healthcare providers who are PART of Obamacare... have shown (on average) a $857% appreciation since Obamacare took effect (that's almost a 60%/year INCREASE in value)... while American citizens have ALREADY paid a number of times to "BAIL OUT" andf "SHORE UP" the FAILING ACA (black hole) FARCE... and NOW, will have to pay AGAIN in January 2026 unless Donald Trump is successful in MODIFYING the ACA, and GIVING the money DIRECTLY to the PEOPLE !!   THIS is what Barack Obama gave us... a BLACK HOLE orchestrated to make democrats RICH... and NOT WHAT HE SAID at the time... WOULD be "Cheaper, Better, and MORE Efficient"... it has been NONE of THAT...

THESE Healthcare companies, and CERTAINLY INCLUDING the ones that are NOT publicly traded, are MAKING CRAZY PROFITS BECAUSE of the ACA connection... AND, who UNDOUBTEDLY have been PAYING OFF their political debts, with HUGE donations to Marxist Socialist Democrats... BUT ALSO, the Political insiders (UNDOUBTEDLY ALL DEMOCRATS) who INVESTED in these companies when NO ONE ELSE KNEW what they had done... have ALREADY made BILLIONS of $$$ ...AND who are STILL FIGHTING to continue this ABOMINATION !

EVER WONDER how Diane Fienstien made all of her MONEY ??  Well... WONDER NO MORE !!

Why does this ******* **** keep posting?

Get busy dying, lump of ****!
 

Blackvegetable » 18 Dec 2025, 7:15 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2025, 7:15 pm

Why does this ******* **** keep posting?

Get busy dying, lump of ****!

Does it feel like Ben Gay on your hemorrhoids, Denier?

Blackvegetable » 18 Dec 2025, 7:15 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2025, 7:15 pm

Why does this ******* **** keep posting?

Get busy dying, lump of ****!

DON'T LIKE the TRUTH you POS?   Well, Get used to it **** !!

YOU and your Marxist, Socialist, Communist friends are ON THE WAY OUT... in the U.S.A !!  SO, Maybe YOU should book a flight to Russia, China, or Cuba... You might like it there a LOT MORE than here...

With all the Marxist, Socialist, Communist CORRUPTION & FRAUD being exposed all across the COUNTY... It won't be long before INTELLIGENT and HONEST Americans will AGAIN be the UNCHALLENGED Majority here, and YOU?  btw... ARE YOU one of those CORRUPT SOB's who are STEALING OFF the American taxpayer?.. Well, If YOU ARE, you might be be asked to TAKE that trip... or spend to time in JAIL, HERE !
 
 

Yup ACA sucks

And the republicans are gonna make sure that people have to pay double for it

Have fun in 26

Mrkelly » 20 Dec 2025, 3:08 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2025, 3:08 pm

Yup ACA sucks

And the republicans are gonna make sure that people have to pay double for it

Have fun in 26

HEY ****... from what they have found out already, is that BILLIONS and BILLIONS of $$$ have been JUST PISSED AWAY...  HALF the people on the ACA are FRAUDS, and the U.S. Government (i.e. the Democrats) just ALLOWED the abuses to happen... and STILL PAYS the Healthcare companies as IF they were REAL patients, and THEY ALL are getting RICH because of it... on the BACKS of the American taxpayers !!

If you look at the Healthcare companies who were TAKING money from the American Taxpayers, between 2010 (when Obamacare was created) and NOW... about 15 years... those companies have gone up something like 1000% in value... or about 66% per year on average... AND, that's not even to mention the BILLIONS that Democrats who were in on the scam made who INVESTED in those companies..

AND YOU SAY:  "Republicans are gonna make sure that people have to pay double for it"?  SCREW YOU... JUST DO what Trump said we should do... GIVE the money to the PEOPLE, and let THEM pay the companies... It's OBVIOUS that the CORRUPT Democrat controlled U.S. Government CAN'T !!

And NO, Nancy Pelosi was NOT smart enough to make all her $100's of millions all by herself !!
 

ConservativeWave » 20 Dec 2025, 4:27 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2025, 4:27 pm

HEY ****... from what they have found out already, is that BILLIONS and BILLIONS of $$$ have been JUST PISSED AWAY...  HALF the people on the ACA are FRAUDS, and the U.S. Government (i.e. the Democrats) just ALLOWED the abuses to happen... and STILL PAYS the Healthcare companies as IF they were REAL patients, and THEY ALL are getting RICH because of it... on the BACKS of the American taxpayers !!

If you look at the Healthcare companies who were TAKING money from the American Taxpayers, between 2010 (when Obamacare was created) and NOW... about 15 years... those companies have gone up something like 1000% in value... or about 66% per year on average... AND, that's not even to mention the BILLIONS that Democrats who were in on the scam made who INVESTED in those companies..

AND YOU SAY:  "Republicans are gonna make sure that people have to pay double for it"?  SCREW YOU... JUST DO what Trump said we should do... GIVE the money to the PEOPLE, and let THEM pay the companies... It's OBVIOUS that the CORRUPT Democrat controlled U.S. Government CAN'T !!

And NO, Nancy Pelosi was NOT smart enough to make all her $100's of millions all by herself !!

Make no mistake 

obombacare was a boondoggle for the insurance and pharmaceutical companies 

but by the republicans making people pay twice as much, is gonna put the dems back in control of the house

and they are going to dodge getting anything done by impeaching tRump and friends for the next 3 years 

continuing the age old tradition of not getting a damn thing done 

And for you still think that tRump gives a damn about average Americans is **** unbelievable to me

you think that by tRump promising to send 2 thousand dollars is gonna help ANYONE?

again … “have fun in 26”

AND … who said anything about Pelosi ?   

 
 

Mrkelly » 20 Dec 2025, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2025, 5:03 pm

Make no mistake 

obombacare was a boondoggle for the insurance and pharmaceutical companies 

but by the republicans making people pay twice as much, is gonna put the dems back in control of the house

and they are going to dodge getting anything done by impeaching tRump and friends for the next 3 years 

continuing the age old tradition of not getting a damn thing done 

And for you still think that tRump gives a damn about average Americans is **** unbelievable to me

you think that by tRump promising to send 2 thousand dollars is gonna help ANYONE?

again … “have fun in 26”

AND … who said anything about Pelosi ? 

I don't see your logic...

1)  It was the Democrats who created the ACA FRAUD, and If TRUMP gives the people a lump sum payment and let THEM choose the plan they want... hold the corporations partially responsible for the boondoggle, and MANDATE that they be involved to some sort of monetary re-payment OR commit to FIXING the broken process...  the BIGGEST LOSER is the Democrat Party!  THEY were RESPONSIBLE for CREATING the boondoggle,and TRUMP WILL NOT let them forget it !!

2)  The Democrats tried to involve Trump Jeffery Epstein MESS... BUT, NOW that as more & more information is being released... it's NOT TRUMP that's being implicated in anything....It's Bill Clinton and OTHER Democrats... AND, ONCE AGAIN, the Democrat plan BLOWS UP in their faces !

3)  DOZENS of FRAUD cases are being uncovered ALL across the NATION... the Minnesota, Florida and Maine FRAUD & CORRUPTION FIASCO's... the Russian Collusion FIASCO... the Desert Frost FIASCO... the Weaponization of the Federal Bureaucracy, the Intelligence Services, the the DOJ, the Judicial System, and the Military... and it was ALL a BOONDOGGLE of the Democrat party and the Democrat politicians !!

AND MORE...

and TRUMP... Democrats accused him of STOKING inflation because of the Tariffs, and the FAKE News media CONFIRMED the LIE... HOWEVER, inflation is now LOWER than it have been since Trump was President the LAST time... The other day Inflation was reported as 2.7%, and Wages are increasing... THEY LIED...   The Democrats just LIE, and LIE, and LIE and LIE... and America is NOT that stupid...

Pelosi?  Ner net worth is something north of $400 million... do you REALLY think she has the smarts to do it on her own...

ConservativeWave » 20 Dec 2025, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2025, 5:38 pm

I don't see your logic...

1)  It was the Democrats who created the ACA FRAUD, and If TRUMP gives the people a lump sum payment and let THEM choose the plan they want... hold the corporations partially responsible for the boondoggle, and MANDATE that they be involved to some sort of monetary re-payment OR commit to FIXING the broken process...  the BIGGEST LOSER is the Democrat Party!  THEY were RESPONSIBLE for CREATING the boondoggle,and TRUMP WILL NOT let them forget it !!

2)  The Democrats tried to involve Trump Jeffery Epstein MESS... BUT, NOW that as more & more information is being released... it's NOT TRUMP that's being implicated in anything....It's Bill Clinton and OTHER Democrats... AND, ONCE AGAIN, the Democrat plan BLOWS UP in their faces !

3)  DOZENS of FRAUD cases are being uncovered ALL across the NATION... the Minnesota, Florida and Maine FRAUD & CORRUPTION FIASCO's... the Russian Collusion FIASCO... the Desert Frost FIASCO... the Weaponization of the Federal Bureaucracy, the Intelligence Services, the the DOJ, the Judicial System, and the Military... and it was ALL a BOONDOGGLE of the Democrat party and the Democrat politicians !!

AND MORE...

and TRUMP... Democrats accused him of STOKING inflation because of the Tariffs, and the FAKE News media CONFIRMED the LIE... HOWEVER, inflation is now LOWER than it have been since Trump was President the LAST time... The other day Inflation was reported as 2.7%, and Wages are increasing... THEY LIED...   The Democrats just LIE, and LIE, and LIE and LIE... and America is NOT that stupid...

Pelosi?  Ner net worth is something north of $400 million... do you REALLY think she has the smarts to do it on her own...

you will understand my logic in 26

Blackvegetable » 18 Dec 2025, 7:15 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Dec 2025, 7:15 pm

Why does this ******* **** keep posting?

Get busy dying, lump of ****!

Aren't you in your 60s yourself? Lol Hopefully some common cancer like prostate cancer sneaks up on your worthless liberal self and sends your sorry *** to hell. If we're lucky, it happens before the 28 election. 

SouthernFried » 20 Dec 2025, 9:15 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2025, 9:15 pm

Aren't you in your 60s yourself? Lol Hopefully some common cancer like prostate cancer sneaks up on your worthless liberal self and sends your sorry *** to hell. If we're lucky, it happens before the 28 election.

Merry Shazbat you rat bass turd..

Bro is alive and kickin' thanks to yo tax donatshuns..


Giving it Up for Your Trump Somehow.   Delbert McClinton

youtu.be/ztciNl2bGag?si=uMCc8DRrE1mZhybI

JohnnyYou » 20 Dec 2025, 9:55 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2025, 9:55 pm

Merry Shazbat you rat bass turd..

Bro is alive and kickin' thanks to yo tax donatshuns..

Giving it Up for Your Trump Somehow.   Delbert McClinton

youtu.be/ztciNl2bGag?si=uMCc8DRrE1mZhybI

Nice and triggered. Wasn't even engaging with you, ***.

Mrkelly » 20 Dec 2025, 5:47 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Dec 2025, 5:47 pm

you will understand my logic in 26

NOT LIKELY...

Because we have seen NO LOGIC to this point,

...and it's not likely that it will JUST MANIFEST itself from the ETHER !!