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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FqiwH7eMQ
 

roadkill » 19 Dec 2025, 12:44 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 12:44 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FqiwH7eMQ

good 'ol' guvna hair gel...2 things need to happen...Sacramento needs to burn then San Andreas fault needs to be blown...

roadkill » 19 Dec 2025, 12:44 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 12:44 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FqiwH7eMQ

The wife and I were spending $800/month on fuel in the 2000's in SoCal. I can't even imagine being there now and paying those prices!

I filled up for 2.70$ a Gallon yesterday. It felt like a Christmas Bonus.

Road rash is plugging Kremlin Media Again.  Newsome didn't close them,  the refineries closed themselves.

Did Governor Newsome terminate refineries in California?
No, Governor Gavin Newsom has not terminated refineries in California
. On the contrary, as of late 2025, his administration is actively working to keep existing refineries operational and even searching for private buyers for facilities slated to close. 
While Newsom has not ordered any closures, several major refineries have independently announced plans to shut down, citing a challenging regulatory environment and a long-term decline in gasoline demand. 

The Newsom Administration’s Response
Faced with the potential loss of roughly 20% of the state's refining capacity, which experts warn could lead to dramatic gas price spikes, the Governor has shifted his stance in 2025: 

• Permitting Support: Newsom has drafted legislation to speed up permits for new oil wells in Kern County to ensure a domestic supply for remaining refineries.
• Regulatory Delays: He delayed a controversial refinery profit cap to avoid further destabilizing the market.
• Active Negotiation: He tasked the  no spam  with finding ways to support refiners and keep plants like Valero's Benicia facility solvent.
• Legislative Packages: In September 2025, Newsom signed a major climate and energy overhaul that included compromises to increase domestic oil production and rehabilitate offshore pipelines. 

 
 

JohnnyYou » 19 Dec 2025, 7:32 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 7:32 am

I filled up for 2.70$ a Gallon yesterday. It felt like a Christmas Bonus.

Road rash is plugging Kremlin Media Again.  Newsome didn't close them,  the refineries closed themselves.

Did Governor Newsome terminate refineries in California?
No, Governor Gavin Newsom has not terminated refineries in California
. On the contrary, as of late 2025, his administration is actively working to keep existing refineries operational and even searching for private buyers for facilities slated to close. 
While Newsom has not ordered any closures, several major refineries have independently announced plans to shut down, citing a challenging regulatory environment and a long-term decline in gasoline demand. 

The Newsom Administration’s Response
Faced with the potential loss of roughly 20% of the state's refining capacity, which experts warn could lead to dramatic gas price spikes, the Governor has shifted his stance in 2025: 

• Permitting Support: Newsom has drafted legislation to speed up permits for new oil wells in Kern County to ensure a domestic supply for remaining refineries.
• Regulatory Delays: He delayed a controversial refinery profit cap to avoid further destabilizing the market.
• Active Negotiation: He tasked the  no spam  with finding ways to support refiners and keep plants like Valero's Benicia facility solvent.
• Legislative Packages: In September 2025, Newsom signed a major climate and energy overhaul that included compromises to increase domestic oil production and rehabilitate offshore pipelines. 

Your choice for 2028 Democrat president?
 

Fuelman » 19 Dec 2025, 7:38 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 7:38 am

Your choice for 2028 Democrat president?

Hmmm..  

A white male. 

Mark Kelly looks like got about 50 years older in the last few weeks.
Some one like an Andy Beshear maybe?

Newsome is going to run I am betting.  Kamala better Wala along.

I am sure the demcrats will **** it up it again.


 

JohnnyYou » 19 Dec 2025, 7:32 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 7:32 am

I filled up for 2.70$ a Gallon yesterday. It felt like a Christmas Bonus.

Road rash is plugging Kremlin Media Again.  Newsome didn't close them,  the refineries closed themselves.

Did Governor Newsome terminate refineries in California?
No, Governor Gavin Newsom has not terminated refineries in California
. On the contrary, as of late 2025, his administration is actively working to keep existing refineries operational and even searching for private buyers for facilities slated to close. 
While Newsom has not ordered any closures, several major refineries have independently announced plans to shut down, citing a challenging regulatory environment and a long-term decline in gasoline demand. 

The Newsom Administration’s Response
Faced with the potential loss of roughly 20% of the state's refining capacity, which experts warn could lead to dramatic gas price spikes, the Governor has shifted his stance in 2025: 

• Permitting Support: Newsom has drafted legislation to speed up permits for new oil wells in Kern County to ensure a domestic supply for remaining refineries.
• Regulatory Delays: He delayed a controversial refinery profit cap to avoid further destabilizing the market.
• Active Negotiation: He tasked the  no spam  with finding ways to support refiners and keep plants like Valero's Benicia facility solvent.
• Legislative Packages: In September 2025, Newsom signed a major climate and energy overhaul that included compromises to increase domestic oil production and rehabilitate offshore pipelines. 

A buddy of paid $2.19 here...
 

JohnnyYou » 19 Dec 2025, 7:32 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 7:32 am

I filled up for 2.70$ a Gallon yesterday. It felt like a Christmas Bonus.

Road rash is plugging Kremlin Media Again.  Newsome didn't close them,  the refineries closed themselves.

Did Governor Newsome terminate refineries in California?
No, Governor Gavin Newsom has not terminated refineries in California
. On the contrary, as of late 2025, his administration is actively working to keep existing refineries operational and even searching for private buyers for facilities slated to close. 
While Newsom has not ordered any closures, several major refineries have independently announced plans to shut down, citing a challenging regulatory environment and a long-term decline in gasoline demand. 

The Newsom Administration’s Response
Faced with the potential loss of roughly 20% of the state's refining capacity, which experts warn could lead to dramatic gas price spikes, the Governor has shifted his stance in 2025: 

• Permitting Support: Newsom has drafted legislation to speed up permits for new oil wells in Kern County to ensure a domestic supply for remaining refineries.
• Regulatory Delays: He delayed a controversial refinery profit cap to avoid further destabilizing the market.
• Active Negotiation: He tasked the  no spam  with finding ways to support refiners and keep plants like Valero's Benicia facility solvent.
• Legislative Packages: In September 2025, Newsom signed a major climate and energy overhaul that included compromises to increase domestic oil production and rehabilitate offshore pipelines. 

Nice AI spin...it's California's policies, regulations, etc that are driving businesses out...

Fuelman » 19 Dec 2025, 7:38 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 7:38 am

Your choice for 2028 Democrat president?

Coming soon, to a carnival near you...

ROG62 » 19 Dec 2025, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 9:09 am

A buddy of paid $2.19 here...

My gut says part of it is a slower economy. People can't afford to travel, less product being shipped around (at higher prices creating a mirage of a positive economy). Road Rash is skewing the truth.  People are buying electrics in CA so petrol demand goes down.   EV's are a good choiice for urban CA for short commutes. The weather is superb.  You really only need a house a few days a year.

Trumo says there is 1.99$ gas somewhere.  Do you believe him?

As of December 2025, gas prices in the United States have dropped to their lowest levels in more than four years, with the national average falling below $3.00 per gallon for the first time since May 2021. By mid-December 2025, the national average reached approximately $2.85 to $2.90 per gallon. 
Why Gas Prices are Dropping
The decline is driven by a combination of global market dynamics and seasonal domestic factors: 

• Oversupply of Crude Oil: Global oil production is currently outstripping demand. Key factors include:
  • Record U.S. Production: Domestic crude oil output reached all-time highs of nearly 14 million barrels per day in late 2025.
  • OPEC+ Increases: The OPEC+ alliance has systematically unwound previous production cuts, adding millions of barrels back into the global market throughout 2025.
• Weakening Global Demand: Demand for oil has softened, particularly due to a slowing economy in China and that country’s rapid transition toward electric vehicles (EVs).
• Seasonal Factors:
  • Winter-Blend Gasoline: Refineries have switched to winter-grade fuel, which is cheaper to produce than summer blends because it requires fewer additives.
  • Lower Winter Demand: Historically, gasoline demand is lower in the winter months compared to the summer travel season.
• Operational Stability: The 2025 hurricane season lacked major tropical storms that typically disrupt Gulf Coast refinery operations, allowing for steady fuel production. 

Regional Pricing Variance (December 2025)
While the national average is low, prices vary significantly by region: 

• Least Expensive: States like Oklahoma ($2.37), Colorado ($2.48), and Texas ($2.50) have some of the lowest prices in the country.
• Most Expensive: California ($4.45), Hawaii ($4.44), and Washington ($4.08) remain the highest. 

Analysts from AAA and GasBuddy expect these low prices to persist through the end of 2025, potentially saving Americans over $500 million during the Christmas holiday week compared to the previous year

JohnnyYou » 19 Dec 2025, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 9:02 am

Hmmm..  

A white male. 

Mark Kelly looks like got about 50 years older in the last few weeks.
Some one like an Andy Beshear maybe?

Newsome is going to run I am betting.  Kamala better Wala along.

I am sure the demcrats will **** it up it again.

Even Obama is telling the Democrats to tamp down the crazy. I don't know if that is possible.
 

**** queerlafornia. Let it burn.

Fuelman » 19 Dec 2025, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 9:30 am

Even Obama is telling the Democrats to tamp down the crazy. I don't know if that is possible.

They are grooming my Governr here in Marryland, Wes Moore, to be Obama 2.0.
His entire tenure has been focused on campaigning. There is dissapointment even amoong blue voters here.

I am actually considering voting AGAINST Moore in the Democratic Primary.  I am currently registered in the Republican Primary and I have shared why in the past.

My party ends at the primary.  I am not a just vote blue guy.

It is hard to fathom Trump running for a third term. But it was hard to fathom he would be in the oval cockpit today.  I don't think going in with one of the lowest approval ratings in unpresidenteed history would be prudent if it reached that juncture.

So..  Who are the alternates? MAGAc Mike Johnson has commented political suicide.  I still respect Scalise.  My last governor, Larry Hogan is the  reason I am registered Republican. He is a very good politician with admiable conservative approaches (He left Moore with a 4$ Billion Surplus that has been squandered and  $1.6 Billion  in Moore new taxes). Hogan refused to lick Trump's scrotum. I like the guy.

Fuelman » 19 Dec 2025, 7:23 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 7:23 am

The wife and I were spending $800/month on fuel in the 2000's in SoCal. I can't even imagine being there now and paying those prices!

And it sounds like Newsom's frivolous attitude means it's not going to change anytime soon.

roadkill » 19 Dec 2025, 12:44 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 12:44 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3FqiwH7eMQ

Californians who put an idiot like Newsome in charge DESERVE to get gas prices at $10 a gallon!
No sympathy for them here!
 

Zeets2 » 19 Dec 2025, 11:45 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 11:45 am

Californians who put an idiot like Newsome in charge DESERVE to get gas prices at $10 a gallon!
No sympathy for them here!

I agree.

JohnnyYou » 19 Dec 2025, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 9:16 am

My gut says part of it is a slower economy. People can't afford to travel, less product being shipped around (at higher prices creating a mirage of a positive economy). Road Rash is skewing the truth.  People are buying electrics in CA so petrol demand goes down.   EV's are a good choiice for urban CA for short commutes. The weather is superb.  You really only need a house a few days a year.

Trumo says there is 1.99$ gas somewhere.  Do you believe him?

As of December 2025, gas prices in the United States have dropped to their lowest levels in more than four years, with the national average falling below $3.00 per gallon for the first time since May 2021. By mid-December 2025, the national average reached approximately $2.85 to $2.90 per gallon. 
Why Gas Prices are Dropping
The decline is driven by a combination of global market dynamics and seasonal domestic factors: 

• Oversupply of Crude Oil: Global oil production is currently outstripping demand. Key factors include:
  • Record U.S. Production: Domestic crude oil output reached all-time highs of nearly 14 million barrels per day in late 2025.
  • OPEC+ Increases: The OPEC+ alliance has systematically unwound previous production cuts, adding millions of barrels back into the global market throughout 2025.
• Weakening Global Demand: Demand for oil has softened, particularly due to a slowing economy in China and that country’s rapid transition toward electric vehicles (EVs).
• Seasonal Factors:
  • Winter-Blend Gasoline: Refineries have switched to winter-grade fuel, which is cheaper to produce than summer blends because it requires fewer additives.
  • Lower Winter Demand: Historically, gasoline demand is lower in the winter months compared to the summer travel season.
• Operational Stability: The 2025 hurricane season lacked major tropical storms that typically disrupt Gulf Coast refinery operations, allowing for steady fuel production. 

Regional Pricing Variance (December 2025)
While the national average is low, prices vary significantly by region: 

• Least Expensive: States like Oklahoma ($2.37), Colorado ($2.48), and Texas ($2.50) have some of the lowest prices in the country.
• Most Expensive: California ($4.45), Hawaii ($4.44), and Washington ($4.08) remain the highest. 

Analysts from AAA and GasBuddy expect these low prices to persist through the end of 2025, potentially saving Americans over $500 million during the Christmas holiday week compared to the previous year

$1.89 OK and TX...

https://www.gasbuddy.com/home

JohnnyYou » 19 Dec 2025, 10:12 am » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 10:12 am

  I am not a just vote blue guy.

No, you're a purple lipped **** eating bastard that doesn't dare stick his face out of a moving car window or his huge *** lips will beat him to death.
 

murdock » 19 Dec 2025, 6:17 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Dec 2025, 6:17 pm

No, you're a purple lipped **** eating bastard that doesn't dare stick his face out of a moving car window or his huge *** lips will beat him to death.

Burp..


 

Standby as @murdock   shyts two refieneries out his azz.

Drink your Big Black Cow


So Outrageous.