13 Apr 2013 2:30 pm
Misty, on 13 Apr 2013 - 00:06, said:I don't know how you classify David Gregory or Mark Kelly as straw purchasers.Playing stupid now or did you really forget?David Gregory had an illegal magazine that he was waving around on TVHe was breaking the law doing so, and had asked for special permission to do so which was denied. He knew what he was doing was illegal and did it anyway.You said there was no "benefit to society" in prosecuting himMark Kelly lied on his 4473 when he said he was buying the gun for himself, and once the news got out that he was trying to buy it he said he was buying it to give to the police department. This is not only a crime, but a possible felony which he was allowed to walk away from.This is what makes him a straw purchaserI know all that. A straw purchaser is someone who buys guns and sells them to people who are unable to pass a background check.I still don't understand how you classify David Gregory and Mark Kelly as straw purchasers.Recently the head of prisons in Colorado was shot and killed. Evan Ebel, the accused killer used a straw purchaser to acquire the 9mm semiautomatic handgun used in that shooting.Ebel, a white supremacist gang member, was a felon and thereby was barred under federal law from possessing a gun. Had he tried to go into a gun store a buy a gun, he would have failed the background check. So instead Ebel used the most common method criminals use to acquire firearms: a straw purchaser. In this case it is alleged that Stevie Marie Vigil, a 22-year-old woman, went in to High Plains Arms to buy a gun on Ebels behalf.http://thinkprogress...rder/?mobile=ncChuck: Two directions I could go with this and I can't decide which way to go so I'll hit them bothFirst, you sound just like one of us, who want the existing laws enforced before new ones are passed, but then again, you don't know what the penalties are already, but you want them to become more severe.Doesn't that sound dumb?I never claimed to be smart.Chuck: Most of the illegal guns in Chicago are STOLEN, not "trafficked"I suppose you want to make stealing guns against the law too?I read an article recently where it said that most of the illegal guns used in Chicago come from Cook County Illinois, and many of them from one gun shop named, believe it or not, Chuck's Gun Store, most likely bought by straw purchasers.You might think the Deep South is the biggest source of the firearms in the hands of Chicagos criminals.Maybe you heard about the less-restrictive gun laws in the South or the high-profile cases the feds have brought against gun traffickers moving weapons from Mississippi and other states to Chicago the Dixie pipeline.But the truth is most guns recovered in crimes here were originally bought in Illinois.More specifically, in Cook County.And the No. 1 supplier of those weapons is just a short drive from Chicago, Chucks Gun Store in south suburban Riverdale.From 2008 to March 2012, the police successfully traced the ownership of 1,375 guns recovered in crimes in Chicago within a year of their purchase.Of those guns, 268 were bought at Chucks nearly one in five.http://www.suntimes....o-buy-guns.htmlChuck: And even more killed by autos.Where's the outrage?I don't really get that whole car/gun analogy.When people are killed by autos, it's usually accidental.How many mass killings are committed by people using their car to mow down a bunch of people?