Cannonpointer » 30 Jan 2017 10:44 am » wrote:
When a grown **** man is making up torture scenarios to sell the idea of a government big enough to torture his neighbors, that's pining.
There's the psychotic version of things.
And there's the fantasy. In the fantasy, we only torture bad guys and they always have the information we're looking for, and it's fresh and hot and actionable.

I didn't see Larry claim or imply "always," psycho.
But in fact, the top three terrorists who were waterboarded gave us absolutely vital information including intell that led to Bin Laden.
Hundreds if not thousands of lives were saved, because thanks to Clinton's incompetence and neglect, we had almost no intelligence about Al Qaeda.