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30 Nov 2022 1:30 pm
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FOS » 30 Nov 2022, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑ dude...people have to like....eat. there's quote a bit of difference between say...a street gang and the roman empire. 

the capacity for violence may be a necessary part of nation building...but it doesn't mean every murderer is building a nation, and it isn't all there is to it.
Violence is a key element in making and sustaining a nation.  I know of no nation that ever existed without violence and bloodshed. Or, if one did exist, it was probably for a very short time and lost to history. 

I would agree that violence and war machines are not the only thing that sustains a nation.  Far from it, I'm sure.  Also, if such were the case, I doubt I'd want to reside in that nation.
 
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