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Dantev2 » 13 Aug 2018 7:52 pm » wrote: They were not "proven" correct because the logic is wrong.

IIRC there is no law in Western countries that de-criminalizes pedophilia/bestiality/etc.

Yet.

The same could have been said, and truthfully, for decriminalizing homosexuality, before we decriminalized homosexuality. Acknowledging an agenda - and opposing it - is not the same as saying the agenda is already accomplished. It is arguing that it ought not to be accomplished.

And by the way, the age of consent is at 14 in more European countries than it is at 17, which is the oldest age of consent in any European country, including Turkey (which is Asian, dammit). And whereas sex with pubescent children is not the strict definition of pedophilia, letting 40 year olds sexually prey on 14 year olds is an agenda that I consider necessary to oppose - and an agenda worming its way inexorably into the LMNOP movement.

Dantev2 » 13 Aug 2018 7:52 pm » wrote: I am no more concerned about this "push" you speak of any more than I am of FEMA camps, deep ecology, and phlogiston theory.

But you DO recall that there once were laws against homosexuality, do you not?

And that those laws were removed from the books?

What makes you believe that other laws - say, Idunno, laws against sex with minors? - could not likewise be struck from the books?

Surely you and I CAN agree on these two facts:

1. That IS the agenda of the "M.A.P." crowd, and
2. They ARE being embraced by the LMNOP movement.

Dantev2 » 13 Aug 2018 7:52 pm » wrote: I would hope you need not be reminded that in today's day and age, media is inundated with the same boring messages (and messengers), and people exploit opportunities for grandeur by making preposterous arguments for the only purpose of standing out from the crowd.

20 years ago, Ann Coulter was a firebrand and incendiary; today, she is a washed up harpy vying with hundreds of others for any slice of attention.

Obama issued a title nine decree requiring schools to allow boys into the girls' showers. This isn't some paranoid response to a fringe movement - this is a reaction to reality, on the ground. At this very moment, thousands of prepubescent boys are being fed a chemical castration regime to block their normal sexual development on the preposterous argument that they are actually girls trapped in boys' bodies, and that they are sufficiently mature to make sexual decisions. Under what set of conflicting principles are children old enough to take medicines for sex change, yet too young to consent to sexual activity?

This isn't a "slippery slope" argument by any stretch of the imagination. The one idea - already implemented on the ground - leads inexorably to the other. Old enough to go in for a sex change, old enough to go in for sex. It's happening now - right now. And Cali in 2018 = Texas in 2028.