Liberal Forum

A few posts back, I proved that in New York state it could cost someone up to $74 to get a state issued photo ID.Now I know to a moneybags like you that's chump change.But to many people that is a lot of money.It took me five seconds to show that you're full of **** Get an ID Card?What if you need to show an ID, but you don't drive and don't need a license (or your license has been revoked)? Fortunately, you don't need to jump through the hoops of getting a driver license just to prove your age or identity.You can get a New York non-driver photo ID card for between $9 and $14 without taking any tests, and you don't need an appointment. Use the ID to cash checks, open accounts, get on an airplane, buy alcohol, use your credit card, and so forth―everything but drive.http://www.dmv.org/n...rk/id-cards.phpWhat we are actually doing is taking the non-existent problem of voter fraud and disenfranchising possibly millions of people from voting.Bush's Justice Dep't tried for 5 years to prove that in person voter fraud (voter impersonation) was rampant, and they came up empty.Last year the Republican National Lawyers Association viewed data going back ten years to prove rampant voter fraud, and didn't do much better.Again, not true. There were plenty of prosecutions for voter fraud. 120 people were prosecuted and 86 convicted as of a 2007, 5 years into the probe. ...Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party election victories, about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year.Most of those charged have been Democrats, voting records show. Many of those charged by the Justice Department appear to have mistakenly filled out registration forms or misunderstood eligibility rules, a review of court records and interviews with prosecutors and defense lawyers show. http://www.nytimes.c...?pagewanted=allYes, Virginia, There Really Is Voter FraudBy Hans A. von SpakovskyDecember 22, 2011 1:18 P.M. The latest voter-fraud convictions in Troy, N.Y., must be very inconvenient to the public-affairs propagandists over at the DNC and the NAACP, as well as liberal media outlets like the New York Times. It just ruins their constant refrain that there is no voter fraud in the United States. Eric Shawn at FOX News reports that two Troy city officials, the city clerk and a councilman, along with two Democratic political operatives, have pled guilty to forging absentee-ballot signatures and casting fraudulent ballots in the 2009 Working Families Party primary. The WFP is the political party associated with ACORN.One of the citizens whose votes were stolen was stunned at what happened. She said that she was “sure this goes on a lot in politics, but it’s very rare that they do get caught.” This voter was right on the money with that observation — fraud is so easy to commit in our election system that it is rare that fraudsters get caught and even rarer that they get prosecuted.As for the constant liberal claims that voter fraud does not occur, one of the Democratic operatives who pled guilty, Anthony DeFiglio, told New York State police investigators “that faking absentee ballots was a commonplace and accepted practice in political circles, all intended to swing an election.” And whose votes do they steal? DeFiglio was very plain about that: “The people who are targeted live in low-income housing, and there is a sense that they are a lot less likely to ask any questions.”http://www.nationalr...s-von-spakovskyThose are Republicans, not Libs.They haven't been able to prove that a bunch of dead people are voting, try as they might, but that doesn't stop them from saying it anyway.This is about voter supression and voter disenfranchisement. Plain and simple.**** above reference continued...That is exactly what former Alabama congressman Artur Davis said recently when he admitted that he was wrong to oppose voter-ID requirements. Davis says the “most aggressive” voter suppression “is the wholesale manufacture of ballots, at the polls and absentee, in parts of the Black Belt” of Alabama, which is an area of very poor black communities. These are the very areas where the NAACP claims voter fraud does not happen. The NAACP opposes all reasonable measures to safeguard the voting process for its own constituents, even going to the extent of defending vote stealers, as the NAACP did in Greene County, Ala., in the mid-1990s. Small wonder one of its local officials was recently sentenced to five years in prison for voter fraud in Tunica County, Mississippi.In the Troy case, the ease with which voter signatures were forged without detection shows that signature comparison by election officials does not work and poses no deterrent to this type of voter fraud. That is why Kansas combined a voter-ID requirement in its new election law with a change to its absentee-ballot procedures. If you want to vote in person in Kansas, you now have to show a photo ID, and if you request an absentee ballot, you have to provide either a copy of your photo ID or the driver’s license number from the ID. That helps confirm that the registered voter — not some political operative like Anthony DeFiglio — actually requested the absentee ballot.