MistyBlue, on 02 November 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:I'm amazed that he still thinks that he can just pull stuff out of his ***, and no one will call him on it.Speaking of making things up and pulling them out of their a**:[Another quote about Clem's favorite subject, rape.]Could an honest, sane person really believe that?It's ironic that you are always whining about how you want 'honest debate'.Yet everytime you are presented with an opportunity to engage in one, you engage in diversion, distraction, or projection.Sure, but I won't vote for the incompetent lying leftist who brought the real unemployment rate to 12% and still rising.No. You'll vote for Grover Norquist's puppet instead.We are not auditioning for fearless leader, Grover Norquist told conservatives at the CPAC convention in February. We dont need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. We just need a president to sign this stuff. We dont need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.Norquist went on: Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.