23 Dec 2012 6:05 pm
teacher
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Oh look, all of a sudden I get to be the liberal. I can do thatPreviously violent. Nothing indicates they are violent after they've "paid their debt to society". You know, prison terms and not being on paper. Talk to a probation agent, their position is that you're dangerous until you're off paper. Then your magically not dangerous. If rights are granted by a creator, how is it possible man is capable of denying those rights? Every person possesses an inherent right of self-defense, even felons."Paid their debt to society" is not interchangeable with slate wiped clean. If their slate was wiped clean then in the event they committed another violent crime, or any crime for that matter, their criminal record would not come into play. If they were suspected of a crime and sought by the police when the police are closing in on them the police would not be advising each other suspect has been shown to have a propensity to violence and they would not pursue this person with that mindset. Given your stance on this I suppose that felons should also be able to vote?So, simple questionIf a man has done a decade in jail for robbing someone with a weapon and he gets out of prison then he should then be able to legally obtain a weapon?You get to have a weapon until you prove that such weapons do not belong in your hands. Also consider recidivism rates.If he's so dangerous why issue him a student Visa in the first place?I never said he was dangerous. I said he wasnt an American citizen. The 2nd amendment does not apply to non-citizens. You did not answer the question.Would this occur without government intervention, i.e., War on Drugs?Again, you are avoiding the question.Do you find it acceptable for the US government to run guns around the world to prop up revolutionaries and governments?Yes.If we're gonna support freedom and liberty, we have to support it across the board.You gonna tell me the Iraqi people; the Libyan people; the Afghani people had freedom and liberty before The Mighty US of A helped overthrow those dictators? The invaded Kuwaitis? By our actions we did support freedom and liberty.If he has proven himself to be a nutjob than why wasn't he committed?Well theres a question Im not prepared to answer. Theres a whole host of issues on that one. Privacy, the ethereal nature of phycology, fantasy vs. real intent, where do you draw the line, who draws the line, is it possible to get better, meds, psychosis, funding and then how does one legislate all this? For now Id go back to background checks. If you are proven to be a whackjob under todays definitions you dont get to buy a weapon. As it stands now a proven whackjob can go to a gun show and purchase a weapon.You do understand that with my background check compromise comes no record keeping; go/no go, right?